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(10,133 posts)If I follow Birther logic he's not a natural born citizen, then.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Where was he born? Do we know for sure? Have we seen his long form birth certificate or college records?
We deserve to know.
mopinko
(70,088 posts)that she claimed.
eta- and may very well have been a trafficked person.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Makes all the difference in the world to these fucks.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)But they can't say that out loud. Instead, we'll hear a lot of noise about how she was a BUSINESS person, who had a JOB and created EMPLOYMENT and blah blah bhal.
And I can already hear the conservative media (who spent eight years attacking Michelle Obama) gearing up the talking points about how family members of politicians are supposed to be out of bounds, but the 'left' is so uncivilized that anybody's 'fair game.' (Valerie Plame won't miss the irony of that one.)
But let's just remember that...
1. TRUMP was the one who made immigration an issue, and
2. TRUMP was the one who TOLD us that Melania would have a press conference, and show all her documents to prove that she wasn't an illegal alien working in the US without a visa...
Raster
(20,998 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)who were brought in to work for the Trump modelling agency. I think, if somebody bothers to look, they'll find a lot of visa issues there.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)...MasterCard issues, American Express issues, lots of issues on how guys paid for them as the, shall we say "escorts" they actually were.
And the pimp called Carrot Top who deployed them.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)The Russians have since taught everybody that you pay cash.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)...whether you know it or not.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)Trump model management is being investigated for human trafficking with links to Russia.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)And the reposed are usually 2-1 against me. I'm good with that. She's essentially a Slovenian hooker who got a sex worker's dream job (married to an American billionaire more interested in a trophy wife than an actual marriage), and I still kind of feel bad for her current situation. It's not the job she signed up for. They want her to say and do something a normal wife would do, but she's not a normal wife: she's an employee.
Her status as an immigrant, however, is totally germane to the national conversation (as opposed to the choice of footwear of an Eastern European sex worker). Not only should we be bringing it up at every chance, so should she. Shame on her.
In fact, I was talking to an actual RW nutjob this morning (nice guy, drove me ninety miles to the airport) who loves guns, hates Obama, and doubled his weekly donation to Joel Osteen this week because "he's getting lied on by the liberals and the atheists." He's also married to a Central American immigrant.
And even THAT lunatic thinks deporting the DACA kids is wrong ("they just did what their parents and their government told them to do" , and went one step further and said that if we just punished the people HIRING the illegal immigrants, the immigration would stop overnight and would be cheaper for the taxpayers. So even some of the Teabaggers are opposed to this. Sounds good at a rally, but messed up in real life.
PdxSean
(574 posts)" She's essentially a Slovenian hooker who got a sex worker's dream job."
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Plus, I used to live in a lot of bad neighborhoods. My attitude towards sex workers is unusual, granted, but generally positive. I was trying to be funny, but I honestly wasn't trying to insult her.
There's quite a few people who marry for worse reasons and/or have worse jobs.
Really, if you think about it, she's parlayed sexy photo shoots into a high-paying, lifetime job, way cushier than most of us will ever have. So good for her.
Edit: except pimps and traffickers. Those people are the worst human beings alive, modern day slave-traders. I get infuriated just thinking about them.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)and take half of the wealth he's accumulated during the time they were married.
Although, at this point, she's got to be worried if there will be much of his fortune left to take him for in divorce court. (She's probably one of only three or four people who knows his actual worth.) When he was just doing crooked real estate deals, and ripping people off with a fake College, and a reality TV show, he was at least making some money. But being President has shone a spotlight on his illegal business activities, and he could end up spending years in court, and spending millions on lawyers. I'm thinking maybe she and Trump's kids are hoping he bails out of this Presidential gig fairly soon.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Didn't reagan do away with that?
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)And while we're at it, 4/5 Trump kids.
Goonch
(3,607 posts)Aviation Pro
(12,163 posts)And shitty person.
3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)Caricatures are often not very flattering, but this one reaches a new level of "eewwwwwwwwwwwwww!"
nini
(16,672 posts)She doesn't count.
George II
(67,782 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)The man said he is/was a Hillary supporter. He said her stuff was all by the book, and that she had not worked illegally in the US.
I've heard that she did work prior to getting her "green card." And I wonder if she had the money to pay her lawyer or if someone else did. But if becoming a citizen costs as much as I've heard, then I wonder how she paid for it.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)throw the hypocrisy back in the R faces. I think it is likely, but I wouldn't say it until I knew the date of her work visa and had proof of her income prior to receiving it.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)She was/is a criminal, therefore, it should have taken her longer to get her visa.
I don't get why she got a work visa in a short amount of time while it takes others years to get a visa. It's not as if we have a shortage of models in the US.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)But if it WAS all above board, either HE or SHE must have the paperwork to show us. So why don't they? It would be ridiculously simple.
Boomer
(4,168 posts)As someone has already mentioned, she's just an employee. If Trump has to throw Melania under the bus, he'll send her back to Slovenia without a blink. But keep his kid, because offspring are an extension of himself.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)yet another example of Republican/Trump hypocrisy.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,999 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)tRump Tower part time and Mar-A-Lago. They were members of the Communist party. How did THEY get visas? What type of work does he do, to afford that lifestyle? A former roomate said Maleria would get all dressed up in the evening, go to a "photo shoot" come back next morning with $1,500 in cash. Super models, as tRump claimed she was, do not handle their own money, they have agents for that. Also, super models do not pose for lesbian soft porn like she did. Phony as her "husband" They deserve each other.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I'm up for it.