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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:39 PM Sep 2017

BBC reporter Paul Wood says there's new evidence that the Pee-tape -- and worse -- exists.

The original article is behind a pay wall at The Spectator. This article discusses it.

While most DUers won't care about a sex tape (assuming the participants are all adults and the behavior is consensual), this would be more confirmation of the Steele dossier.

And it would matter, of course, if the Russians were blackmailing DT with it.

http://www.inquisitr.com/4476398/donald-trump-pee-tape-dossier/amp/

The so-called “pee tape,” an alleged video recording of Donald Trump in a highly compromising situation with prostitutes in a Russian hotel room, may actually exist and multiple witnesses say so — according to a bombshell report by award-winning BBC correspondent Paul Wood in an article published in August, but just receiving widespread notice today.

SNIP

“I heard of Russian kompromat — compromising material — on Trump from two sources months before the Steele dossier came to light,” Wood wrote in the Spectator. “There are, though, reports of witnesses in the hotel who corroborate Steele’s reporting. These include an American who’s said to have seen a row with the hotel security over whether the hookers would be allowed up to Trump’s suite. The dossier’s account of hookers in a Moscow hotel room was the subject of gossip among politicians and intelligence people for months before it was published.”

In addition, Wood adds that the Russians — who could include Russian President Vladimir Putin himself — may be in possession of other blackmail material on Trump, including separate sexually compromising tapes that depict Trump exhibiting even more “extreme” deviant behavior.

“Expect these allegations to emerge in due course,” Wood concluded.

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BBC reporter Paul Wood says there's new evidence that the Pee-tape -- and worse -- exists. (Original Post) pnwmom Sep 2017 OP
So is there any extreme deviant behavior greymattermom Sep 2017 #1
Yes...he forgot to have the prostitutes pee on a Koran. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #4
Maybe he peed on a greymattermom Sep 2017 #6
...as far as we know n/t librechik Sep 2017 #114
Yes unless it's him Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #7
young boy.... dhill926 Sep 2017 #27
No, young girl Lithos Sep 2017 #48
Ivanka Bob Loblaw Sep 2017 #56
This is what I think. Solomon Sep 2017 #84
I disagree mdbl Sep 2017 #85
I was just thinking that. They'll double down, say it makes him more Godly TrogL Sep 2017 #90
There's nothing in the Bible that says NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #110
Know what? Ligyron Sep 2017 #113
Plenty of repugs in IL still supporting Denny Hassert. You know he had s problem but that was a lunasun Sep 2017 #49
I think it had something to do with underage girls, like the one he allegedly raped adigal Sep 2017 #30
The KGB/FSB specialize in underage lolitas... Raster Sep 2017 #43
The tape is going to show his tiny penis FakeNoose Sep 2017 #55
I hope that was in Hobby Lobby. YOHABLO Sep 2017 #63
Somebody posted this photo on DU about a week ago FakeNoose Sep 2017 #115
hahahaha! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #80
Not one. Trump has found grace in the eye of the lord all is forgiven by God and now he is in the WH lunasun Sep 2017 #45
That is this country's trouble, right there. chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #60
Whoa! You're post requires an eye-bleach-required warning!! malchickiwick Sep 2017 #69
I was thinking just this Lordquinton Sep 2017 #82
Trumpers will say he has suffered enough and they'll embrace golden shower memes , tshirts etc. lunasun Sep 2017 #99
We'll be facing a whole new golden tide Lordquinton Sep 2017 #111
Yikes! That is not a good look - any of those photos. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2017 #112
They will ignore it even if it is jimlup Sep 2017 #87
Probably something to do with solara Sep 2017 #93
Dressed up like his mother almost Norman Bates like? kimbutgar Sep 2017 #104
Only one Cosmocat Sep 2017 #94
The sex tape isn't that relevant but ... Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #2
It's relevant because it was (is) being used as a blackmail tool by Putin to get Trump to perform. C Moon Sep 2017 #66
Except you don't know that Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #73
Okay. That can go both ways. But have it your way. C Moon Sep 2017 #75
Not a matter of me having it my own way Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #108
Trumplestiltskin could perform the worst acts from PCIntern Sep 2017 #3
What's the difference? SusanaMontana41 Sep 2017 #96
The most compelling aspect of the pee tape story is, it sounds exactly like something he'd do. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #5
it also sounds like.... garybeck Sep 2017 #46
No, stranger than fiction. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #51
It doesn't make sense that Trump would have made up a story like that about himself, or even Rove politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2017 #71
Yep....and the more we see of his true nature, the more sure I am that it happened. Lucinda Sep 2017 #65
Given Ken Starr and his Inquisition, I DAMN WELL CARE about a sex tape of Trump! WinkyDink Sep 2017 #8
But, but, but...IOKIYAR Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #12
"Talibangelists"! Genius! WinkyDink Sep 2017 #20
Talibangelists* chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #61
Talibangelists!?!?! MontanaMama Sep 2017 #64
TBH, it's not original from me. I read it somewhere and it stuck... Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #103
..........take win JHan Sep 2017 #76
His base would love to buy copies for their own private use. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #9
When is this information going to finally come to light? femmocrat Sep 2017 #10
So I could care less, but a gay tape or one showing *45s affinity for domination JDC Sep 2017 #11
I like the way you think. skydive forever Sep 2017 #26
So when will the poop tape hit the fan? Kaleva Sep 2017 #13
I think the Germans have that video. nt hay rick Sep 2017 #19
Are you KIDDING??? Plucketeer Sep 2017 #36
I care about the context (orchestration of this defilement of the room the Obamas once occupied) hlthe2b Sep 2017 #14
Exactly. It means that he was harboring so much loathing... tandem5 Sep 2017 #37
I put it to you that the pee tape would have destroyed him last year ProudLib72 Sep 2017 #15
If he was being blackmailed with it, that could be a matter for Mueller. nt pnwmom Sep 2017 #17
Yes, that is true ProudLib72 Sep 2017 #21
I care most how Mueller's team can leverage this. CakeGrrl Sep 2017 #24
If he's been taking actions against the interests of the US as a result of blackmail, pnwmom Sep 2017 #25
You may be desensitized TNNurse Sep 2017 #22
Believe me, if the pee take showed up on the internet, it would affect him. Trust me. politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2017 #72
Underage girls Johnny2X2X Sep 2017 #16
I Think SO Too Me. Sep 2017 #33
. roamer65 Sep 2017 #44
That's my belief as well Lithos Sep 2017 #50
i think for sure underage girls are involved. JI7 Sep 2017 #74
they'll still try to blame it on the girls NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #97
Bingo Johnny2X2X Sep 2017 #101
I have always assumed that was accurate RandomAccess Sep 2017 #18
I care a lot - a LOT - about a Trump(R) sex tape in the hands of Putin, or any other Squinch Sep 2017 #23
tRump has no shame. Scarsdale Sep 2017 #95
I wonder if they have him with a child? Greybnk48 Sep 2017 #28
I'm not a religious person and don't believe in a higher power. Bleacher Creature Sep 2017 #29
So, i have had my fun..... gay texan Sep 2017 #31
Yeah! Dickwad. flibbitygiblets Sep 2017 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Marthe48 Sep 2017 #32
Republicans didn't even care that their man had SWORN testimony from MINORS he sexually abused. Sunlei Sep 2017 #34
What I Do Wonder About Is Me. Sep 2017 #35
In due course? What the fuck is everyone waiting for? 45 to actually Neema Sep 2017 #38
The tape may not matter to us "adults" but it does matter bigly to Trump. haveahart Sep 2017 #39
it's the only explanation for why Trump publicly kisses Putin ass Skittles Sep 2017 #40
We already heard the tape... SansACause Sep 2017 #41
Any word on the The Wizard Sep 2017 #42
'more extreme deviant behavior' ?? C_U_L8R Sep 2017 #47
I refuse to imagine! WhiteTara Sep 2017 #52
Love the sig line Tara saidsimplesimon Sep 2017 #54
in court deposition, the child he 'settled case with' said she was restrained, yelled at and hit. Sunlei Sep 2017 #106
Here's a few paras from canetoad Sep 2017 #53
Thanks, canetoad! pnwmom Sep 2017 #59
Well written but I just shake my head bdjhawk Sep 2017 #78
If the BBC is saying it, it's likely true. mwooldri Sep 2017 #57
I'm not expecting any of these tapes ever to be released, provided they do exist. LonePirate Sep 2017 #58
Wood wrote about some of this back in January: Denzil_DC Sep 2017 #62
When Stephen Colbert did he Russia show GreatCaesarsGhost Sep 2017 #67
Actually, peeing-on-the-bed is the story they've been discussing. Supposedly, pnwmom Sep 2017 #70
I think that is already in the Steele dossier NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #102
Ew. Maynar Sep 2017 #77
I think this would humiliate him. I really want to see this thing leaked Maraya1969 Sep 2017 #79
Question: Laffy Kat Sep 2017 #81
Get in line MFM008 Sep 2017 #83
Are you kidding? I would watch it with my kids! Orrex Sep 2017 #107
+ 1 Achilleaze Sep 2017 #118
How I wish our Oppositional Research had found this. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #86
Full Frontal with Samantha Bee found the photo! TomVilmer Sep 2017 #88
Now urine trouble, Donald. nt Xipe Totec Sep 2017 #89
At least he's not having diaper sex with a high-priced hooker Achilleaze Sep 2017 #92
K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #91
Putin has some great dirt on trump Gothmog Sep 2017 #98
i am willing to bet that "the donald" took a golden shower as he was playing w/himself ..... Botany Sep 2017 #105
The only thing the GOP won't forgive? Losing bigbrother05 Sep 2017 #100
be careful quitnesset Sep 2017 #109
I remember somebody tried that on Rachel Maddow already renate Sep 2017 #117
Please be true RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #116
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
4. Yes...he forgot to have the prostitutes pee on a Koran.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:50 PM
Sep 2017

The Red States would never forgive him for the disgusting perversion of NOT insulting Islam.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
48. No, young girl
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:56 PM
Sep 2017

Consider:

* He already has very close ties to another Billionaire (Jeffrey Epstein) who was arrested for an under-age sex ring.
* Trump's, now defunct modeling agency, which had many under-aged girls on it's payrolls, has been implicated with being "deal closers" - being forced to various parties and performing various acts as rewards for the business men.
* Being sued for raping a 13 year old girl (Lisa Bloom)

Add to that the known fact Trump often entered the Miss Universe dressing rooms (under aged girls in various states of attire), and his own lustful statements to his daughter. There is also a rather interesting tie with Milo Yiannopoulos, who has defended a man's right for sex with a 13 year old girl, but it may also just be politics.

L-

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
84. This is what I think.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 05:44 AM
Sep 2017

At this point it's the only thing his base would find disgusting. The real reason he won't criticize Putin or Russia.

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
90. I was just thinking that. They'll double down, say it makes him more Godly
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 07:41 AM
Sep 2017

...or some such nonsense.

Authoritarian followers take any criticism of their leader or any challenge to their premises as an attack on their entire world.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
110. There's nothing in the Bible that says
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:25 PM
Sep 2017

a man can't have sex with a young teen. So it's okay with them. So is rape, okayed by the Bible.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
49. Plenty of repugs in IL still supporting Denny Hassert. You know he had s problem but that was a
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:56 PM
Sep 2017

long time ago .....poor old man after serving asspeaker of the house and giving so much to the country. He did a lot of good for his district they will tell you

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
30. I think it had something to do with underage girls, like the one he allegedly raped
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:55 PM
Sep 2017

and beat. But I don't think even that would do it. They would say she enticed poor Donny Two Scoops.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
55. The tape is going to show his tiny penis
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 10:26 PM
Sep 2017

That's what Cheeto has been worried about all along.

Wait until the Trump supporters see his tiny weenie, the game will be all over!



FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
115. Somebody posted this photo on DU about a week ago
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 02:21 PM
Sep 2017

They said it's from Target. I can't take credit for it, but it sure is great.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
45. Not one. Trump has found grace in the eye of the lord all is forgiven by God and now he is in the WH
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:44 PM
Sep 2017

doing divine works. Let him be say his fundies

His other supporters? They are as nasty as he is I assume look how they embraced his pussy grabbing talk for example


Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
82. I was thinking just this
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:39 AM
Sep 2017

Does it matter? Republicans get away with all kinds of stuff, Vitter and his diaper fetish, Governor Appalachian Trail, while Dems will hang their own out to dry so fast the opposition doesn't even have to lift a finger.

My main response to this headline is "so what?"

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
99. Trumpers will say he has suffered enough and they'll embrace golden shower memes , tshirts etc.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 09:19 AM
Sep 2017

if that was their only fetish that would be no problem with me but I was in the suburbs and overheard two trump women fantasizing violence of how they would hurt illegal immigrants if they ever met one... all this talk over cofveve on a holiday weekend . They are some sick shit . There are so many things to discuss but violence to others is not on my day off list of items to talk about in a coffee shop when I meet up with a friend . If they were truly in to sexual fetishes and discussing how they enjoy golden showers, I would not have had my stomach turned like I did over thier violence to others fantasy fetish

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
111. We'll be facing a whole new golden tide
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:46 PM
Sep 2017

and it will probably come out in a politically advantageous time so they can bury it in the cycle, and make people sick of it before any harm will be done.

Like you said, the hate is irrational, and they want to inflict physical harm on people they don't like. Decades of right wing spewage has emboldened them to think this way, and we've got a lot of work to set things to something resembling straight.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
112. Yikes! That is not a good look - any of those photos.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:21 PM
Sep 2017

Ze master race has nothing to be proud of, if that's what's on offer.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
87. They will ignore it even if it is
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 06:56 AM
Sep 2017

obvious video evidence... at this point Trump supporters are not right in the head.

solara

(3,836 posts)
93. Probably something to do with
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 08:01 AM
Sep 2017

cross dressing.

Perhaps it trump's supporters saw him cavorting in a black lace bustier, leather dog collar, fishnet stockings, garters, a pair of stiletto heels, heavy make-up, lipstick, earrings, wearing a crown, and practicing his debate with a blond blow- up doll dressed like Hillary; or on his knees in the same outfit being punished by a beautiful, black Dominatrix with a riding crop, or a rubber flogger.

Or, on his hands and knees barking like a dog obeying every command from said Dominatrix. Or....

Diaper play.

Any of the above could be the kind of deviant behavior trump's little fan club might find disgusting. I say "might"

Unfortunately there are still a myriad of sick and extreme behaviors that I can actually imagine our PINO enjoying with great relish. But delicacy demands that I end it here.



kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
104. Dressed up like his mother almost Norman Bates like?
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 10:38 AM
Sep 2017

Oh to see that would make his cultof4ers heads explode!

Bradshaw3

(7,513 posts)
2. The sex tape isn't that relevant but ...
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:45 PM
Sep 2017

... does anyone doubt for a second that this piece of crap would do something like that?

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
66. It's relevant because it was (is) being used as a blackmail tool by Putin to get Trump to perform.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:40 PM
Sep 2017

Bradshaw3

(7,513 posts)
73. Except you don't know that
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:51 AM
Sep 2017

It might be but it might not. We know a lot about collusion and financial dealings. Whether they ever prove what you are claiming is unlikely in my opinion.

Bradshaw3

(7,513 posts)
108. Not a matter of me having it my own way
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 11:56 AM
Sep 2017

Or going both ways. You made a claim that hasn't been proven.

PCIntern

(25,539 posts)
3. Trumplestiltskin could perform the worst acts from
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:50 PM
Sep 2017

the Aristocrats (look it up if you're unfamiliar) and it'd be just fine.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
5. The most compelling aspect of the pee tape story is, it sounds exactly like something he'd do.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:51 PM
Sep 2017

The vulgar, petty, nonsensical andl almost canine mentality of "getting back at" the Obamas by having hookers pee on the bed where they once slept.

It's pure Trump.

garybeck

(9,942 posts)
46. it also sounds like....
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:48 PM
Sep 2017

a fake story that someone like karl rove or trump himself would put out there to confuse people

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
71. It doesn't make sense that Trump would have made up a story like that about himself, or even Rove
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:32 AM
Sep 2017

for that matter. It has been said many times by those who know Trump well and report on him for a living, (and I'm not talking about fake news) that Trump is not a "chess player" but a checker player, in that he doesn't think strategically several moves ahead of his opponents, but instead he thinks one move at a time.

So I hardly think that he would plant 'fake news' years before he announces his candidacy about a romp involving himself and prostitutes in a Russian hotel room, to discredit the press prior to the beginning of his campaign. He's too old to doesn't have enough brain cells remaining to think on that level. Instead he's always trying to cover up his tracks for some stupid shit he's done, after the information is already out there in the mainstream media by sending out his minions to refute it.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
65. Yep....and the more we see of his true nature, the more sure I am that it happened.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:39 PM
Sep 2017
And for me, it was totally plausible from day one...

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
9. His base would love to buy copies for their own private use.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:56 PM
Sep 2017

They would love it and it would further bind their devotion to him. His base cult would relish this, in fact they voted for him due to his disgusting behavior, not in spite of it.

I wonder if this is mentioned in the Fusion GPS testimony transcripts given the the Senate Judiciary Committee two weeks ago. Rachel announced it on her show that his lawyers said Grassley could release it and Lawrence followed up by saying Hatch would approve the release of the transcripts too. I will be calling the 11 GOP members calling for its release now that their recess is over.

The Pee Pee tape is really meaningless since it is just more of the fake prez breaking all the norms and rules and getting away with it by his enabling family, GOP, and billionaires who own the government. Anyone with a rational thought in their head is mute once again/still. The GOP owns this country via $ and fake Christianity.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
10. When is this information going to finally come to light?
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:00 PM
Sep 2017

We have heard rumors for 8 months now.... Put up or shut up already! Let's get rid of this psychopath before he does something we can't come back from.

JDC

(10,127 posts)
11. So I could care less, but a gay tape or one showing *45s affinity for domination
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:20 PM
Sep 2017

Would probably stir his base into a tizzy. One that even he couldn't lie his way out of.

If he was a literal cuck it would be the height of delicious irony.

hlthe2b

(102,228 posts)
14. I care about the context (orchestration of this defilement of the room the Obamas once occupied)
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:26 PM
Sep 2017

if true... I do care about that.

tandem5

(2,072 posts)
37. Exactly. It means that he was harboring so much loathing...
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:13 PM
Sep 2017

that he was willing to plan and carry out a retribution fantasy that most people wouldn't begin to imagine -- Not because it's too perverse, but because it so removed (even symbolically) from the object of his hatred -- A room the Obamas once stayed in. It would be truly disturbing if proven real.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
15. I put it to you that the pee tape would have destroyed him last year
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:26 PM
Sep 2017

but it would not affect him now. We have become so desensitized to this sort of thing that there would be no scandal.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
21. Yes, that is true
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:36 PM
Sep 2017

I was only thinking of the court of public opinion. For instance, if we substituted the pee tape for her emails, that could have done him in.

You have to wonder if perhaps Mueller does have a copy of the tape already. Also, if that was not the most disgusting piece of kompromat, what else might Mueller have needed to view? Just another reason I'm glad he is leading the investigation and I am not.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
24. I care most how Mueller's team can leverage this.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:39 PM
Sep 2017

Trump's zombies will either make up an excuse why it doesn't matter or claim it's fake, as they do everything they don't like.

An extra level of deviancy would be an interesting test for his evangelical base, though.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
25. If he's been taking actions against the interests of the US as a result of blackmail,
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:43 PM
Sep 2017

I'm sure Mueller could find the appropriate charges.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
22. You may be desensitized
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:37 PM
Sep 2017

but I and many others are not. I do not care what it takes to take him down, I am just past ready for it to happen.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
72. Believe me, if the pee take showed up on the internet, it would affect him. Trust me.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:50 AM
Sep 2017

Particularly it the tapes are crystal clear and definitive, then there's no way the Repugs would try to bury it, rather they'd kick him to the curb because they know that they'd time was up for them, and that they were just busy rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic when their party was going down. Nothing would send Trump supporters running in the opposite direction than to see with their own crystal clear eyeballs, Trumps pasty white ass peeing on prostitutes in a hotel room.

Johnny2X2X

(19,048 posts)
16. Underage girls
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:27 PM
Sep 2017

What % of Russian prostitutes are under 17? I would bet it's well over half and I would bet the chances the girls they set Trump up with being underage is near 100%. Probably 13 or younger. And that's why Putin had him.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
50. That's my belief as well
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:58 PM
Sep 2017

Also add in his strong ties with Jeffrey Epstein and Trump's use of under-aged girls from his defunct modeling agency as "deal closers" *cough*. And don't forget Lisa Bloom who claimed Trump raped her when she was 13.

L-

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
97. they'll still try to blame it on the girls
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 09:00 AM
Sep 2017

or the Russians - "they looked older" and "the age of consent in Russia is lower than in the US, so it's ok" (no idea on that one) or "Trump is so manly that they threw themselves at him and he didn't have time to check ID"

Johnny2X2X

(19,048 posts)
101. Bingo
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 09:49 AM
Sep 2017

They will absolutely try to excuse this behavior. No bar is too low for them to slither under.

He'll be on tape with preteens doing sex acts that are way outside the norm. But but but, her emails!

I have no delusions that a child sex tape will sink Trump. It won't.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
18. I have always assumed that was accurate
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:32 PM
Sep 2017

but he's been forgiven for so much, I don't think even he worries about that part being "confirmed." So I don't think the Russians have that much hold over him on that issue.

Trump's downfall will come from overwhelming illegal bahavior -- money-laundering, fraud, etc.

And, it's my fervent belief, treason -- in spirit (and actuality) even if it doesn't fit the technical, prosecutable definition. (And if it doesn't, that's yet ANOTHER reform we have to make once this nightmare is all over with.)

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
23. I care a lot - a LOT - about a Trump(R) sex tape in the hands of Putin, or any other
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:38 PM
Sep 2017

criminal who might use it as leverage.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
95. tRump has no shame.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 08:11 AM
Sep 2017

I doubt any tape would cause him embarrassment. In fact, he might be proud of it, he would think it shows how popular he is with prostitutes. I really think there is a lot more. A NORMAL person would be ashamed of a tape such as this, but he is far from normal. He is terrified of something else being exposed, it must be HUGE. I wonder if his "boys" Beavis and Butthead have been taped doing "stuff"??

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
28. I wonder if they have him with a child?
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:48 PM
Sep 2017

Or maybe he has a vicious "Joffrey" moment in his past, or both.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
29. I'm not a religious person and don't believe in a higher power.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:54 PM
Sep 2017

But if my prayers are answered after reading this story, I'd gladly reconsider!!

gay texan

(2,442 posts)
31. So, i have had my fun.....
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:57 PM
Sep 2017

Many tales too ticklish to tell, to be quite honest. I am no one of retaliative importance. I make no claims to my morality.....

However, Orange Cat's Ass has been lauded to be a fine upstanding moral Xtian by the right. Putting up with Clinton's private sex life blasted 24/7/365 in the 90's, guess what?

You are held to a higher standard, dickwad.

Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
34. Republicans didn't even care that their man had SWORN testimony from MINORS he sexually abused.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:09 PM
Sep 2017
one of those minors even "disappeared" and no Republican currently elected, runner for president OR deplorable fan base R voters gave a shit about that either.


you're correct no one cares about his love or need to watch fiction porn shows.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
35. What I Do Wonder About Is
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:11 PM
Sep 2017

Why would there be a problem getting hookers upstairs if Russian Intelligence wanted to get the goods on 45. Surely they could override any objections from hotel security?

"The sleazy scene was secretly filmed by Russian intelligence agents who kept the suite under constant surveillance, and the video is now being held as possible blackmail material — known in Russian as kompromat — to use against Trump"

Neema

(1,151 posts)
38. In due course? What the fuck is everyone waiting for? 45 to actually
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:17 PM
Sep 2017

drop a nuclear bomb or something?

 

haveahart

(905 posts)
39. The tape may not matter to us "adults" but it does matter bigly to Trump.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:20 PM
Sep 2017

It would kill half of his macho base and the other half would banish his soul to hell. This is the one thing that Trump would not be able to cope with. Letting people know that he is a supreme pervert...and Obama isn't (or at least there is no video). I have said this before that the collusion charges do not matter to Trump but of what he loses if a video exists and is published. He would never be able to live it down. What would he lose most of the hypocritical evangelical base, a lot of Hispanics, (blacks already know he is a pervert), outward acceptance of the monied elite whose approval really matters to him, scorn by world leaders, lots of support from the military (especially after the transgender mess), most all of the white suburban women who voted for him in 2016, loss of veterans respect for him, and much more.

The only thing he would have going for him is the GOP House and Senate who would be afraid of their own exposure so they will work hard to protect him.

In my gut, I know that tape exists and is probably copied for protection. I just wish they would get the alleged witnesses who have viewed it under oath to testify to its existence.

SansACause

(520 posts)
41. We already heard the tape...
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:24 PM
Sep 2017

...where he literally bragged about sexually assaulting women. Whether or not the pee tape is real, his supporters will still be behind him, and vote to re-elect him in 2020.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
106. in court deposition, the child he 'settled case with' said she was restrained, yelled at and hit.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 11:28 AM
Sep 2017
He's a sick man who gets off on cruelty to humans.

canetoad

(17,152 posts)
53. Here's a few paras from
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 10:13 PM
Sep 2017

The Spectator article. Paywall not blocking me - could be NoScript doing its job.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/08/forget-charlottesville-russia-is-still-the-true-trump-scandal/

/snip
Sater and Manafort together would pose a deadly threat to Trump’s presidency if they testify that Russian money in his businesses led to information being exchanged with Russian intelligence. This is exactly the relationship — an ‘exchange running between them for at least eight years’ — that the former MI6 officer Christopher Steele described in his ‘dossier’. At a news conference this week at his New Jersey golf club, the President bizarrely asserted that the Steele dossier had been paid for by Russia in order to damage him. This is the latest twist in Trump’s response to the dossier, which began with flat denials in January that he had been filmed by Russian intelligence with prostitutes in a Moscow hotel room.

That remains unproven. Nevertheless, Steele is not the only source. I heard of Russian kompromat — compromising material — on Trump from two sources months before the Steele dossier came to light. That might be evidence for Trump’s statement that Russian intelligence, as well as the US agencies, are out to get him. There are, though, reports of witnesses in the hotel who corroborate Steele’s reporting. These include an American who’s said to have seen a row with hotel security over whether the (alleged) hookers would be allowed up to Trump’s suite. The dossier’s account of hookers in a Moscow hotel room was the subject of gossip among a select group of journalists, politicians, and intelligence people for months before it was published. Now, claims are circulating of more tapes showing even more extreme behaviour. Expect these allegations to emerge in due course.

Some Republicans in Congress are tiring of the Trump reality show, a mix of The Sopranos and the Kardashians. The Mueller inquiry plods along relentlessly but prosecuting a president is a political decision. Reckless as ever, the President has tweeted criticism of the Senate’s Republican leader, Mitch McConnell, whose help he will need if Mueller finds anything damning. The President’s ordinary supporters don’t care. They fear that they are losing their country — this was an election above all about race; all else is trivia to them, an Enquirer headline.

Even if all the allegations are shown to be true, Trump will simply emerge as the person they supposed him to be when they voted for him.

Paul Wood is a BBC correspondent and fellow of the New America Foundation.

bdjhawk

(420 posts)
78. Well written but I just shake my head
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:57 AM
Sep 2017

when people don't acknowledge how much misogyny has to do with all of this; hand in hand with racism. In fact, many of these phony christians (intentionally lower case "c&quot are loud and proud about their belief that women are inferior and should "submit" to men, all in the name of their hateful brand of christianity. These same people (both men AND women) would never be public in their racism (and in many cases, do not consciously believe they are racist) but are proud to be sexist. As bitter as these guys are about a POC "getting" the jobs they should have, they and their wives are just as bitter when a woman advances over them, no matter how qualified the women may be.

....."They fear that they are losing their country — this was an election above all about race; all else is trivia to them, an Enquirer headline."

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
58. I'm not expecting any of these tapes ever to be released, provided they do exist.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 10:37 PM
Sep 2017

If someone outside of Russia has one of these tapes and they haven't released it, then they never will. Russia will never release them because the threat of releasing them is more powerful than the actual tapes themselves.

Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
62. Wood wrote about some of this back in January:
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 10:56 PM
Sep 2017
The opposition research firm that commissioned the report had worked first for an anti-Trump superpac - political action committee - during the Republican primaries.

Then during the general election, it was funded by an anonymous Democratic Party supporter. But these are not political hacks - their usual line of work is country analysis and commercial risk assessment, similar to the former MI6 agent's consultancy. He, apparently, gave his dossier to the FBI against the firm's advice.

And the former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by "the head of an East European intelligence agency".

Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file - they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" - in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg - and that the material was "of a sexual nature".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38589427

GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,584 posts)
67. When Stephen Colbert did he Russia show
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:44 PM
Sep 2017

he was in the suite that the Obamas stayed in and he said Trump wanted to watch the

girls pee on the bed that the Obamas slept in. That could be even worse deviant behavior

than your average golden shower.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
70. Actually, peeing-on-the-bed is the story they've been discussing. Supposedly,
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:08 AM
Sep 2017

there are other tapes that are worse than that.

But I agree. How sick would DT have to be? As sick as we know he is . . . .

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
102. I think that is already in the Steele dossier
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 10:09 AM
Sep 2017

Even worse than having hookers pee on Obama's bed would be??? Hookers that were underage that Trump then had sex with? Male hookers that were underage that Trump had sex with?

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
81. Question:
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:29 AM
Sep 2017

If the tape(s) exists and there is a chance to watch it, would you? I dunno myself, I'd have to know more about it beforehand. If there were underage girls (or boys) involved, there's no way. Plus, the thought of seeing the Asshole-in-Chief's *you know* cannot be unseen and may require years of psychotherapy. Still, there's a very real vindictive and I suppose voyeuristic part of me that would cackle with delight while witnessing what would be 45's ultimate disgrace. Am I disturbed?

MFM008

(19,806 posts)
83. Get in line
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:44 AM
Sep 2017

I know I'm disturbed.
One day, all this is going to hit the airwaves faster than reporters can talk.

I can't wait.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
107. Are you kidding? I would watch it with my kids!
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 11:55 AM
Sep 2017

It would be a phenomenal teaching moment: "See, kids? This is why Republicans have no moral authority in any matter at all. They nominated and elected the man who did this, and they continue to support him even now. I know that you're only 10 and 13, but whenever a Republican tells you anything about honesty or integrity, you have my permission to tell them to go fuck themselves."

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
86. How I wish our Oppositional Research had found this.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 06:23 AM
Sep 2017

Last edited Wed Sep 6, 2017, 08:05 AM - Edit history (1)

And used it during 2016.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
92. At least he's not having diaper sex with a high-priced hooker
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 07:50 AM
Sep 2017

Not that any republicans would get their tightie-whities bunched up about Comrade Casino* getting off on that kink. Hell, they gave one of their own republican senators a freaking standing ovation when he warped out with his drooly diaper deviancy. In point of fact, actual republican "values" are in and of themselves deviant. They can thump The Good Book all they damn please. They just don't live by it. They are a pack of egregious and therefore dangerous hypocrites.

* republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

Botany

(70,498 posts)
105. i am willing to bet that "the donald" took a golden shower as he was playing w/himself .....
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 11:04 AM
Sep 2017

..... and it wasn't long after the pee pee thing is alleged to have happened that
Russia/Putin got behind making him POTUS because they had "kompromat" on
Trump.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
100. The only thing the GOP won't forgive? Losing
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 09:30 AM
Sep 2017

He "won", now he's a hero. Anything that they can rub a Dems face in is okay. His base would revel in anything that makes the Dems crazy.

Not sure how many thinking GOPers will stay at home for the midterms, but the Dems better have solid candidates across the board or it will only get worse.

quitnesset

(56 posts)
109. be careful
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:10 PM
Sep 2017

I read an interesting post that it may be possible for trump minions to manufacture a tape using advanced editing techniques that will soon afterwards be disproven as a fake, leading to calls from trumpeters to abandon the entire investigation as a fraud.

renate

(13,776 posts)
117. I remember somebody tried that on Rachel Maddow already
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:51 PM
Sep 2017

I can't remember what document she and her staff detected was a fake, but I'm so impressed (and glad) that she didn't fall for it!

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
116. Please be true
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:35 PM
Sep 2017

Not that it will matter. His supporters including numerous Congresspeople will masturbate to it.

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