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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMultnomah Falls Engulfed in Flames by Out-of-Control Wildfire
Someone set off a bottle rocket.
A wilderness is destroyed.
The perfect metaphor for the dawn of the Anthropocene Age.
What we are doing to our planet?
At 5:30 today I stared at the red sun for a while before metering my camera directly at it and took a photo, f8 at 1/125 second.
There were no shadows today in the subdued orange light under the blanket of smoke that makes me wonder what planet this is.
Firefighters battled through the night to save the historic Multnomah Falls Lodge as the Eagle Creek Fire raced westward overnight.
The falls' iconic lodge, built in 1925, is still standingbut the fire keeps burning nearby.
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PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)I have visited there and consider the Columbia River Gorge one of the loveliest places in this country.
Warpy
(111,150 posts)set a lot of fires here in NM, too, especially down by the Rio Grande where the brush is thick. Banning them completely doesn't work since we're close enough to the Mexican border for a day trip there and back for bootleg fireworks.
I wish there was a way to ban stupid jerks.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)But parts of the Gorge are going to look like a moonscape for about five years. Vegetation grows back fast in the this area. Many very old trees are gone forever, though, and I'll not see their like again in my lifetime.
Warpy
(111,150 posts)sterilize the soil. You sort of have to wait for seeds to be blown in, fireweed first and then others. The problem is that fireweed doesn't stabilize the soil, so there will be a lot of mudslides in the next few years.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)long ago. Mother Nature does love her a lot of fires so much that she built them into ecosystem dynamics.
I like your thread for its good sense. We can do ugly for a while while Mother Nature does her thing. Sad to know we'll never see it as it was again, though.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)I hiked Multnomah falls with my father at 5, biked there from college twice a week. I used to hike behind the falls as a child through my 20s untill they closed it off.
That's my soul burning....
Damn them all to hell.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)So many fires taking out precious memories in the Pac. NW.
2 numbskull teenagers, did all that. I do hope they have to pay $$$ for their stupid behavior.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)I dont envy their their future any more than I envy their stupidity. The day they wake up and find they actually have empathy will be their saddest day. It will also be the day I forgive them and not before. I don't expect either, so I suspect they'll have to learn the hard way.
uppityperson
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(25,183 posts)will not be so lax about fireworks. Maybe the Native American tribes that sell them will consider the stupidity of their buyers, and stop selling the really incendiary stuff.
My Mom in the Portland area describes every 4th of July as being WWIII.
central scrutinizer
(11,637 posts)And started fires in Washington. Fuck! If the Columbia isn't a wide enough, water-filled fire break, how in the hell can fire crews hope to contain these fires.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Way worse than any year that I've seen or heard of, and my family moved to the Portland, Oregon area in 1969, forty-eight years ago. Why some jackass would play with fireworks in the midst of it all baffles me. I know that during the eclipse, there was a rational fear that some asshat would start a fire in the Madras, Oregon area, but almost miraculously, it didn't happen. Then, this.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)Woman Witnessed Teen Tossing Firecrackers Into Gorge: There Was a Whole Group of Kids Who Found It Funny To Do ThisJust as I was passing them I said 'Do you realize you just started a forest fire?' and the kid said, 'Well, what are we supposed to do about it now?
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You'll pay for the rest of your life. That's what you're going to do about it.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)My family moved to the Portland, Oregon area in 1969, and Mom still lives in the house that she and Dad bought that year. The Columbia Gorge is a special place, a revered place, it is fitting that my favorite winery in the area is called Cathedral Ridge.
Mom told me that the road was closed between Troutdale and Hood River, and that the fire had jumped across the Columbia to Stevenson, WA. This may not be a human disaster, but it is an ecological and aesthetic catastrophe.
bdtrppr6
(796 posts)the ash falling all yesterday and today is very weird and it smells like campfire outside. our closed up house is even getting the smell cause the AC brings it in. left our car windows slightly open overnight, not realizing there would be a light coat over the inside now. parts of Troutdale under early evacuation warning are only a little over 6 miles, if that far, from my current location in NE PDX.
the destruction of this beautiful area is beyond a shame. those kids better have enjoyed their firecrackers in a tinderbox. dumbshits. don't care that they are young and dumb. if they are that dumb, they need to be under supervision at all times. shame on them and their so called parents.
the crazy thing is, we just booked a getaway in Stevenson for the beginning of Oct with a glorious view. wondering if it is still there and anticipating what we will see on trip out to the Gorge, if we get to go. i'm so sad just to think of the loss of old growth habitat, plus generational heritage of the development of the Gorge, both explorers and first peoples.
luckily we took a visiting friend out on the waterfall tour in july so we got to see it prior to destruction. positive vibes going out to everyone going through catastrophes.
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Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)it's abrasive.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)When you get to Stevenson, look up Walking Man Brewing. All of their beers are named after something connected with ambulation, such as Walking Stick Stout, or Flip-Flop Pilsner. I get a few stares from people when they see my Homo Erectus IPA shirt, but it celebrates two million years of our species and its predecessors walking upright.
defacto7
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(25,183 posts)So far, from what I've heard, no people have been killed or injured by fire, although some may be homeless as a result. I did mention the ecological and aesthetic aspects of it being disastrous. However, I was in Washington State during the Mt. St. Helens eruptions, and today what were moonscapes are now green again, so recovery is possible, but it takes a long time, by human standards.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)I drove up to the Vista House around 7am. The visibilty was terrible. I'll post some pictures when i get motivated to sign up with a photo-sharing site. My major hike was from Multinomah over to Wahkeena Falls up to Larch Mountain and then back down into Multinomah Falls. The air quality and visibility were terrible. The Gorge didn't seem to be at risk at that time. I left around 12:30. It looks like the wind shifted to the west and the fire spread quickly overnight.
My car was covered in ash this morning.
I fear thst some of the locations that I photographed yesterday may havr burned overnight.
bdtrppr6
(796 posts)no need to sign up if you don't want. please share photos.
chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)Vista House is cool, Larch Mountain has a spectacular view of The Gorge. All of it in jeopardy now because of a couple of asshats.
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2017/09/witness_teens_giggled_as_they.html
dixiegrrrrl
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Idiot With Fireworks Starts Columbia River Gorge Fire That Strands 150 Hikers and Threatens Town of Cascade Locks
http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/09/03/idiot-with-fireworks-starts-columbia-river-gorge-fire-that-strands-150-hikers-and-threatens-town-of-cascade-locks/
The fire has consumed 3,000 acres of pristine forest that Portlanders treat as a playground.
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Eagle Creek fire (KATU-TV)
By Aaron Mesh |
Published September 3 at 5:36 PM Updated 7:34 AM
An idiot setting off fireworks near Punchbowl Falls is the likely cause of a wildfire in the Columbia River Gorge that has consumed 3,000 acres, stranded 153 hikers overnight on a trail, and has the town of Cascade Locks preparing to evacuate over Labor Day weekend.
Oregon State Police announced this afternoon that the likely cause of the forest fire was this moron using fireworks on the Eagle Creek trail, one of the most popular destinations in the waterfall district east of Portland.
We believe that fireworks is the cause, says Sgt. Kaipo Raiser of the Oregon State Police. We do have a suspect identified. No one has been arrested at this point. Potentially, there could be criminal penalties as well.
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Eagle Creek fire (KATU-TV)
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defacto7
(13,485 posts)Fuck KATU!
Doreen
(11,686 posts)If there are any deaths they need to be charged with murder. For any animals killed they need to be charged for animal cruelty on a large scale.
Trump would probably pardon them and put them in charge of national fire safety.
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)(not the lodge in the story). No way to tell yet, but it's probably gone, since that whole ridge is on fire. Some of the buildings there have stood since the 1920s.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Is a human life worth more than the memories of millions or the natural wonder of a thousand years or the habitat of animals who are innocent of the human stupidity they suffer or the only real inheritance we could have given to our children's children's children? I think not.
To me, this is a milestone in the destruction of the planet. The earth is dying... and no human is worth that. May we all die off so the earth can resuscitate itself. We have done enough damage. We are the virus and we are killing our host with the stupid we have produced.
I am digusted with the human race.
I have nothing else to offer it.
Thunderbeast
(3,400 posts)Pray for miracle?
Thank the LORD for saving us so far?
NEWS FLASH!
The Cosmos Don't care if the human race survives their own stupidity.
Carl Sagan once said that life adapts with features and traits that provide hereditary advantage. When it comes to "advanced intelligence", the jury is still out about whether human intelligence will prove to be a long term advantage.
Now....an uplifting observation...
As a kid, I used to travel to the Oregon Coast through the "Tillamook Burn" and think about what a loss that was in the 1930s. Armies of folks, including most Portland kids got a chance to help re-plant as volunteers. The Tillamook Forest is now lush and green.
The Columbia Gorge will not be the same in my lifetime, but it will recover for another generation, someday, to look upon the waterfalls in awe.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Must be about the same age.
You are right, the cosmos don't care.The cosmos is stupid too... but I do care. One stupid dope me... I care and that's all that matters.. to me. I'm atheist so god is a myth, a mind disease humans have nursed for millenia. It's the source of human stupid.
The difference between us is you present a pretty picture with a beautiful sentiment that rouses feelings of nostalgia. I can only offer hard facts and my own history. The future I offer is bleak and it's based on my knowledge of that area which is rather vast.
It was my life since birth and the Columbia Gorge and the Cascades were my mother... really. I know where it's been and I know where it's going. And things will never ever be the same. It will not come back as you say and i have no soul to hand down to my kids anymore because it burned today. It burned with the 2 previously unknown species of tree, and only I knew where it grew. It's documented and registered and i protected them. They're gone.
The climate has changed and will continue to do so. Our pristine taiga climate is no more and the forests will now be consumed by oak scrub.
Yes, someone will hike through in 300 years and say, my what pretty oaks and sandy hills. This dry arid place is a bit severe but they are spooky pinticles, rough and bleak.
And there will be no understanding, no memory, no awe in the deep wet 200 foot Doug Firs and Western Reds. Maybe in museum pictures.
We're quite far apart in viewpoint but we do have the last memories of the way it was. Charish it for the time we have.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)I'd like to know about them.
I only had the pleasure and blessing to live 3 years in the Portland area, but I loved Oregon fiercely, and still do.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)In the '70s a hiking friend who was a geologist, a botanist and a naturalist found a species of tree that was never before catalogued. Soon after he came accross another. He was concerned they could be destroyed if they were mapped so he kept them a secret even from me. They were in the Eagle Creek Bull Run watershed area and Mt Hood Wilderness area. That's as close as I'll tell. A week before he died he told me where they were saying that he wanted to have a backup who shared his urgency to protect them. He died in eagle creek, hit his head and drowned. And now I find it difficult to have lost these life forms in this way. It magnifies the loss of my friend long ago. I don't think he could ever imagine what has happened in these days. I wish I didn't know that it did.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I feel incredible sorrow for what you are saying.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Thanks for being one of those who feel the sorrow. There seem to be less and less who understand the magitude of what we are loosing. It's a book older than civilization and older than these magificent life forms. And it tells the the story, paints the pictures and sears them into our collective memories with the warning that without unity with the earth we too will pass into oblivion as if we had never existed. But the mark we'll leave will be named destruction then forgotten.
I am deeply hurt by all this and these pictures will be buned into my heart for the rest of my life. I know that upper back country better than the maps. It was my birth, my passion, my life, my family and it will be my end.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)almost word for word.
I took him camping a lot, and if not that, long road trips all over the state. Happily, he got it.
now, like you, every future day will bring sorrow for a long time.
Hekate
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(7,911 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)It was burned in the last big fire in the gorge what.. 20 years ago or so? The mountain side collapsed and the area became impassable. Total loss of probably the most breathtaking of the Columbia Gorge trails.
When the walls of the gorge burn, the land held together by many hundreds of years of undergrowth and volcanic ash from previous eruptions of the cascades, slides and collapses, leaving mostly bare basalt. If the climate is no longer the taiga wet rain forest it's been for thousands of years, it won't be comming back as pseudo-tsuga and cedar forests, it will be hardwood brush and scrub.
riversedge
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Extreme fire weather conditions caused many fires in Montana, Oregon and California to gain thousands of acres yesterday. Currently 81 large fires have burned 1.4 million acres in nine western states. More than 27,000 firefighters and support personnel are assigned to wildland fires in the West.
ODF Fire Season Statewide Briefing Map September 4, 2017
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MurrayDelph
(5,292 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 7, 2017, 06:12 PM - Edit history (1)
48 years ago that I fell in love with Oregon. Bought a house on the coast ten years ago (Inland gets too hot in the summers).
We had friend up from L.A. last week. We took them to Multnomah eight days ago.
Sad and more than angry about the jerks that did this.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Guess it's good that I saw it then, sounds like it's gonna be a mess.
Meanwhile, my throat is raw and there's ash all over everything. Stupid fucking kids.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Oregon State Police
7 hrs ·
Eagle Fire Update We need your help! We have identified the suspect in this devastating fire as a fifteen year old male from Vancouver, Washington. It is believed he and others may have been using fireworks, which started the forest fire along the Eagle Creek Trail. The suspect was contacted by law enforcement in the parking lot of the trail head and cooperated with the investigation.
The Oregon State Police is seeking witnesses or those with information about the cause of the fire to come forward. This information could be anyone who heard fireworks or other explosions in the area of the Eagle Creek Trail/ Punchbowl Falls to contact OSP at 503-375-3555.
We are looking for the #PublicsAssistance to share this message
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SunSeeker
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(776 posts)That will truly take your breath away. I am glad I had a chance to drive my girls through it a few months ago. I don't think the full shock of this will hit until I drive up and see for myself. We haven't seen the sun for 2 weeks in the valley because of the smoke and these idiots are playing with fireworks? Humans never cease to amaze me
Tikki
(14,549 posts)We were just up there in early August.
Took time to show off Hood River to the grand kids and peek at the falls.
This is a tragedy....so much beauty destroyed and lives affected.
The Tikkis
L. Coyote
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(20,955 posts)Bluepinky
(2,265 posts)So sorry that this is happening
Javaman
(62,503 posts)OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)Washington, Montana are all on fire. I live East of the fire but you can't see across the street today and breathing is getting harder every day. It disturbs me that I keep reading all the Oregonians who are screaming about the 15 year old boy who dropped the firecracker into the gorge and how he should be tried as an adult felon. He's 15. His brain doesn't work right. He's clueless. Eventually, it will hopefully hit him what he has done. I can't even read the Oregonian today. The comments aimed at this kid are as bad as those aimed at the Bundy bunch.
hunter
(38,303 posts)If an idiot teenager hadn't started the fire, something else eventually would have.
This is the world we made.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)almost every day the last 2 summers. It is getting much hotter and our winters are much colder and icier. The kid did a really stupid thing but hey, he's a teenager. They ARE stupid. They ARE clueless. Try him as an adult felon? I love the gorge as much as the next person but no, he is not an adult felon.
Kaleva
(36,251 posts)OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)and a little bluer. It's not Texas kind of red but there are some people here who fly confederate flags. Gag puke gag!!!
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)FEMA authorizes federal funds for firefighting efforts in Columbia River Gorge
Posted: Sep 05, 2017 1:31 PM PDT
CASCADE LOCKS, OR (KPTV) -
FEMA announced Tuesday that the Eagle Creek Fire is threatening destruction that constitutes a major disaster.
The state of Oregon requested a federal fire management assistance grant. The authorization makes FEMA funding available to pay 75 percent of the states eligible firefighting costs and for managing, mitigating and controlling the fire.
The grant does not provide assistance for homeowners or business owners affected by the fire and does not cover infrastructure damage caused by the fire.
At the time of the request, Level 3 evacuation orders meaning go now had been issued for 520 people and Level 2 notices meaning be set to evacuate were issued for another 624 people.
Around 95 percent of the threatened homes are primary residences. ................
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)I love that place. Damn. Fuck.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)The Oregonian Streamed live 23 hours ago
Live camera of the Eagle Creek fire. Camera is facing Cascade Locks. Photo updated every three minutes. Webcam courtesy Oca Hoeflein.
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(51,129 posts)wiggs
(7,810 posts)Monday's awesome eclipse and on the way back to Portland. Lovely, lovely, lush area. Spent a fair amount of time standing in the water next to Bridalveil...and watched someone celebrate a loved one who had passed, by casting ashes onto the water.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)LeftInTX
(25,132 posts)She's only 20 and posted a pic on FB. Everyone is like, "What are you doing in Oregon?"
It turns she had a high school friend who moved there. I'm glad she got to visit.
She's going to be very sad.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Nonetheless, the fires rage on:
Heavy smoke continues to spread across northwest and north-central US
Heavy smoke is being tracked in 12 states.
Wildfire smoke map, 5:24 a.m. MDT September 4, 2017. The icons represent the locations of some of the large uncontained wildfires.
Wildfire smoke map, created at 5:36 p.m. MDT September 5, 2017. NOAA.