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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:05 AM Sep 2017

Multnomah Falls Engulfed in Flames by Out-of-Control Wildfire

Someone set off a bottle rocket.
A wilderness is destroyed.
The perfect metaphor for the dawn of the Anthropocene Age.
What we are doing to our planet?

At 5:30 today I stared at the red sun for a while before metering my camera directly at it and took a photo, f8 at 1/125 second.
There were no shadows today in the subdued orange light under the blanket of smoke that makes me wonder what planet this is.

http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/09/05/multnomah-falls-engulfed-in-flames-as-out-of-control-wildfire-races-west-through-gorge/


Firefighters battled through the night to save the historic Multnomah Falls Lodge as the Eagle Creek Fire raced westward overnight.
The falls' iconic lodge, built in 1925, is still standing—but the fire keeps burning nearby.









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Multnomah Falls Engulfed in Flames by Out-of-Control Wildfire (Original Post) L. Coyote Sep 2017 OP
Oh, no! PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #1
Stupid jerks with fireworks Warpy Sep 2017 #2
The various falls will be okay gratuitous Sep 2017 #3
The problem with crown fires is that they're so hot, they Warpy Sep 2017 #26
Yes, but if we hadn't protected them they'd likely have been burned over Hortensis Sep 2017 #66
I was there back in 2008 Angry Dragon Sep 2017 #4
My home, my playground... defacto7 Sep 2017 #5
God I hear you. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #10
They will. defacto7 Sep 2017 #18
15 yr old throwing firecrackers. What a damn shame. uppityperson Sep 2017 #6
Maybe the the communities of the Northwest customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #11
And winds have carried embers across the Columbia central scrutinizer Sep 2017 #7
It's so unbearably dry customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #13
I was just reading that too. It jumped the Columbia. Here's the latest, including evacs, OR&WA. Fuck uppityperson Sep 2017 #14
Woman Witnessed Teen defacto7 Sep 2017 #8
This deeply distresses me customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #9
deeply disturbing on many levels bdtrppr6 Sep 2017 #19
rinse the ash off the car with lots of water before scrubbing Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #34
Do you like craft beer? customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #57
Ah, but it is more than a human disaster. defacto7 Sep 2017 #20
I think I pointed that out customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #58
It's tragic. I hiked the trails up above Multinomah Falls early yesterday morning. CentralMass Sep 2017 #12
tinypic.com is very easy bdtrppr6 Sep 2017 #21
I saw all of those places this past July. chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #37
free site, use it all the time, easy. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #59
More pics............. riversedge Sep 2017 #15
Incredible photos? Mt. Doom? defacto7 Sep 2017 #23
I hope those little shits get fined and jailed. Doreen Sep 2017 #16
My father-in-law has spent years rebuilding and maintaining the Nesika Lodge above the falls cemaphonic Sep 2017 #17
What's it worth? defacto7 Sep 2017 #22
The Cosmos Don't Care Thunderbeast Sep 2017 #31
Been there done that... defacto7 Sep 2017 #39
Tell us more about your secret trees RandomAccess Sep 2017 #55
It's best they be let go now. defacto7 Sep 2017 #62
Such sad, painful truths. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #60
Thank you dixiegrrrrl. defacto7 Sep 2017 #61
FWIW, you are echoing my son's feelings dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #65
I'm so terribly sorry. How can people be so stupid? Hekate Sep 2017 #24
I'm afraid the real question is why are there so few people who are NOT stupid? nt Binkie The Clown Sep 2017 #25
Anyone remember Perdition trail? defacto7 Sep 2017 #27
Thanks for the information. riversedge Sep 2017 #56
Map of where the #eaglecreekfire is. NW Fire map too. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #28
It was on a trip to Multnomah Falls MurrayDelph Sep 2017 #29
I was just there a few weeks ago. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #30
Oregon State Police -- We need your help! seeking witnesses or those with information ... L. Coyote Sep 2017 #32
Fuck. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #33
Columbia Gorge is one of the few places in America askyagerz Sep 2017 #35
This is our route to visit family in S.E. Washington State... Tikki Sep 2017 #36
The fire maps and satellite images are shocking L. Coyote Sep 2017 #38
fucking lame bottle rockets. dumbasses. pansypoo53219 Sep 2017 #40
Never got to see this beautiful place, what a treasure. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #41
that's heartbreaking, I was there last year. :( nt Javaman Sep 2017 #42
It's sad and very scary. The mountains are buring all around the northwest. Oregon, OregonBlue Sep 2017 #43
The problem is global warming. Blame anyone who has ever used fossil fuel. hunter Sep 2017 #44
I agree. I'm actually looking for a wetter place right now. It's been over 100 and often over 105 OregonBlue Sep 2017 #49
Upper Michigan and northern Wisconsin Kaleva Sep 2017 #51
I will check those out. Where I live has a lot of bubbas so I was hoping to find someplace wetter OregonBlue Sep 2017 #63
Eagle Creek Fire is threatening destruction that constitutes a major disaster. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #45
WED. #EagleCreekFire is now burning nearly 31,000 acres. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #46
I'm horrified. I've been there many times. panader0 Sep 2017 #47
Overnight time lapse #EagleCreekFire in Oregon L. Coyote Sep 2017 #48
Pacific Northwest Air Quality 9 AM Sept 6 L. Coyote Sep 2017 #50
We were just there, loving the cool water and the falls, after wiggs Sep 2017 #52
Wildfires Rage Across the American West - 33 photos L. Coyote Sep 2017 #53
Our niece was just up there LeftInTX Sep 2017 #54
Raining on the Oregon Coast this morning, a welcome change in weather for firefighters. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #64

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
1. Oh, no!
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:08 AM
Sep 2017

I have visited there and consider the Columbia River Gorge one of the loveliest places in this country.

Warpy

(111,150 posts)
2. Stupid jerks with fireworks
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:13 AM
Sep 2017

set a lot of fires here in NM, too, especially down by the Rio Grande where the brush is thick. Banning them completely doesn't work since we're close enough to the Mexican border for a day trip there and back for bootleg fireworks.

I wish there was a way to ban stupid jerks.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. The various falls will be okay
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:14 AM
Sep 2017

But parts of the Gorge are going to look like a moonscape for about five years. Vegetation grows back fast in the this area. Many very old trees are gone forever, though, and I'll not see their like again in my lifetime.

Warpy

(111,150 posts)
26. The problem with crown fires is that they're so hot, they
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:08 AM
Sep 2017

sterilize the soil. You sort of have to wait for seeds to be blown in, fireweed first and then others. The problem is that fireweed doesn't stabilize the soil, so there will be a lot of mudslides in the next few years.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
66. Yes, but if we hadn't protected them they'd likely have been burned over
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 05:56 PM
Sep 2017

long ago. Mother Nature does love her a lot of fires so much that she built them into ecosystem dynamics.

I like your thread for its good sense. We can do ugly for a while while Mother Nature does her thing. Sad to know we'll never see it as it was again, though.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
5. My home, my playground...
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:22 AM
Sep 2017

I hiked Multnomah falls with my father at 5, biked there from college twice a week. I used to hike behind the falls as a child through my 20s untill they closed it off.

That's my soul burning....

Damn them all to hell.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. God I hear you.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:41 AM
Sep 2017

So many fires taking out precious memories in the Pac. NW.

2 numbskull teenagers, did all that. I do hope they have to pay $$$ for their stupid behavior.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
18. They will.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 01:02 AM
Sep 2017

I don’t envy their their future any more than I envy their stupidity. The day they wake up and find they actually have empathy will be their saddest day. It will also be the day I forgive them and not before. I don't expect either, so I suspect they'll have to learn the hard way.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
11. Maybe the the communities of the Northwest
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:43 AM
Sep 2017

will not be so lax about fireworks. Maybe the Native American tribes that sell them will consider the stupidity of their buyers, and stop selling the really incendiary stuff.

My Mom in the Portland area describes every 4th of July as being WWIII.

central scrutinizer

(11,637 posts)
7. And winds have carried embers across the Columbia
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:33 AM
Sep 2017

And started fires in Washington. Fuck! If the Columbia isn't a wide enough, water-filled fire break, how in the hell can fire crews hope to contain these fires.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
13. It's so unbearably dry
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:46 AM
Sep 2017

Way worse than any year that I've seen or heard of, and my family moved to the Portland, Oregon area in 1969, forty-eight years ago. Why some jackass would play with fireworks in the midst of it all baffles me. I know that during the eclipse, there was a rational fear that some asshat would start a fire in the Madras, Oregon area, but almost miraculously, it didn't happen. Then, this.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
8. Woman Witnessed Teen
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:35 AM
Sep 2017

Woman Witnessed Teen Tossing Firecrackers Into Gorge: “There Was a Whole Group of Kids Who Found It Funny To Do This”“Just as I was passing them I said 'Do you realize you just started a forest fire?' and the kid said, 'Well, what are we supposed to do about it now?’”

----

You'll pay for the rest of your life. That's what you're going to do about it.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. This deeply distresses me
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:40 AM
Sep 2017

My family moved to the Portland, Oregon area in 1969, and Mom still lives in the house that she and Dad bought that year. The Columbia Gorge is a special place, a revered place, it is fitting that my favorite winery in the area is called Cathedral Ridge.

Mom told me that the road was closed between Troutdale and Hood River, and that the fire had jumped across the Columbia to Stevenson, WA. This may not be a human disaster, but it is an ecological and aesthetic catastrophe.

 

bdtrppr6

(796 posts)
19. deeply disturbing on many levels
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 01:16 AM
Sep 2017

the ash falling all yesterday and today is very weird and it smells like campfire outside. our closed up house is even getting the smell cause the AC brings it in. left our car windows slightly open overnight, not realizing there would be a light coat over the inside now. parts of Troutdale under early evacuation warning are only a little over 6 miles, if that far, from my current location in NE PDX.

the destruction of this beautiful area is beyond a shame. those kids better have enjoyed their firecrackers in a tinderbox. dumbshits. don't care that they are young and dumb. if they are that dumb, they need to be under supervision at all times. shame on them and their so called parents.

the crazy thing is, we just booked a getaway in Stevenson for the beginning of Oct with a glorious view. wondering if it is still there and anticipating what we will see on trip out to the Gorge, if we get to go. i'm so sad just to think of the loss of old growth habitat, plus generational heritage of the development of the Gorge, both explorers and first peoples.

luckily we took a visiting friend out on the waterfall tour in july so we got to see it prior to destruction. positive vibes going out to everyone going through catastrophes.

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
57. Do you like craft beer?
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 11:00 PM
Sep 2017

When you get to Stevenson, look up Walking Man Brewing. All of their beers are named after something connected with ambulation, such as Walking Stick Stout, or Flip-Flop Pilsner. I get a few stares from people when they see my Homo Erectus IPA shirt, but it celebrates two million years of our species and its predecessors walking upright.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
58. I think I pointed that out
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 11:03 PM
Sep 2017

So far, from what I've heard, no people have been killed or injured by fire, although some may be homeless as a result. I did mention the ecological and aesthetic aspects of it being disastrous. However, I was in Washington State during the Mt. St. Helens eruptions, and today what were moonscapes are now green again, so recovery is possible, but it takes a long time, by human standards.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
12. It's tragic. I hiked the trails up above Multinomah Falls early yesterday morning.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:44 AM
Sep 2017

I drove up to the Vista House around 7am. The visibilty was terrible. I'll post some pictures when i get motivated to sign up with a photo-sharing site. My major hike was from Multinomah over to Wahkeena Falls up to Larch Mountain and then back down into Multinomah Falls. The air quality and visibility were terrible. The Gorge didn't seem to be at risk at that time. I left around 12:30. It looks like the wind shifted to the west and the fire spread quickly overnight.
My car was covered in ash this morning.
I fear thst some of the locations that I photographed yesterday may havr burned overnight.

chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
37. I saw all of those places this past July.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 03:07 AM
Sep 2017

Vista House is cool, Larch Mountain has a spectacular view of The Gorge. All of it in jeopardy now because of a couple of asshats.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2017/09/witness_teens_giggled_as_they.html

riversedge

(70,084 posts)
15. More pics.............
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:48 AM
Sep 2017











































































Idiot With Fireworks Starts Columbia River Gorge Fire That Strands 150 Hikers and Threatens Town of Cascade Locks



http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/09/03/idiot-with-fireworks-starts-columbia-river-gorge-fire-that-strands-150-hikers-and-threatens-town-of-cascade-locks/

The fire has consumed 3,000 acres of pristine forest that Portlanders treat as a playground.




http://www.wweek.com/resizer/RohF4O4LqJzCUEDW6qlp6SjtQJA=/1200x0/filters:quality(100)/s3.amazonaws.com/arc-wordpress-client-uploads/wweek/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/03173058/Screen-Shot-2017-09-03-at-5.30.01-PM.png
Eagle Creek fire (KATU-TV)
By Aaron Mesh |


Published September 3 at 5:36 PM Updated 7:34 AM

An idiot setting off fireworks near Punchbowl Falls is the likely cause of a wildfire in the Columbia River Gorge that has consumed 3,000 acres, stranded 153 hikers overnight on a trail, and has the town of Cascade Locks preparing to evacuate over Labor Day weekend.

Oregon State Police announced this afternoon that the likely cause of the forest fire was this moron using fireworks on the Eagle Creek trail, one of the most popular destinations in the waterfall district east of Portland.

“We believe that fireworks is the cause,” says Sgt. Kaipo Raiser of the Oregon State Police. “We do have a suspect identified. No one has been arrested at this point. Potentially, there could be criminal penalties as well.”
Eagle Creek fire (KATU-TV)..........................
Eagle Creek fire (KATU-TV)


http://www.wweek.com/resizer/k6vwEgKrG9z0EbUBwUZ7VEEB1SI=/600x0/filters:quality(100)/s3.amazonaws.com/arc-wordpress-client-uploads/wweek/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/03173129/FullSizeRender1.jpg





























Doreen

(11,686 posts)
16. I hope those little shits get fined and jailed.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:52 AM
Sep 2017

If there are any deaths they need to be charged with murder. For any animals killed they need to be charged for animal cruelty on a large scale.

Trump would probably pardon them and put them in charge of national fire safety.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
17. My father-in-law has spent years rebuilding and maintaining the Nesika Lodge above the falls
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:52 AM
Sep 2017

(not the lodge in the story). No way to tell yet, but it's probably gone, since that whole ridge is on fire. Some of the buildings there have stood since the 1920s.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
22. What's it worth?
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 01:25 AM
Sep 2017

Is a human life worth more than the memories of millions or the natural wonder of a thousand years or the habitat of animals who are innocent of the human stupidity they suffer or the only real inheritance we could have given to our children's children's children? I think not.

To me, this is a milestone in the destruction of the planet. The earth is dying... and no human is worth that. May we all die off so the earth can resuscitate itself. We have done enough damage. We are the virus and we are killing our host with the stupid we have produced.

I am digusted with the human race.

I have nothing else to offer it.

Thunderbeast

(3,400 posts)
31. The Cosmos Don't Care
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:33 AM
Sep 2017

Pray for miracle?
Thank the LORD for saving us so far?

NEWS FLASH!

The Cosmos Don't care if the human race survives their own stupidity.

Carl Sagan once said that life adapts with features and traits that provide hereditary advantage. When it comes to "advanced intelligence", the jury is still out about whether human intelligence will prove to be a long term advantage.

Now....an uplifting observation...

As a kid, I used to travel to the Oregon Coast through the "Tillamook Burn" and think about what a loss that was in the 1930s. Armies of folks, including most Portland kids got a chance to help re-plant as volunteers. The Tillamook Forest is now lush and green.

The Columbia Gorge will not be the same in my lifetime, but it will recover for another generation, someday, to look upon the waterfalls in awe.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
39. Been there done that...
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 03:30 AM
Sep 2017

Must be about the same age.

You are right, the cosmos don't care.The cosmos is stupid too... but I do care. One stupid dope me... I care and that's all that matters.. to me. I'm atheist so god is a myth, a mind disease humans have nursed for millenia. It's the source of human stupid.

The difference between us is you present a pretty picture with a beautiful sentiment that rouses feelings of nostalgia. I can only offer hard facts and my own history. The future I offer is bleak and it's based on my knowledge of that area which is rather vast.
It was my life since birth and the Columbia Gorge and the Cascades were my mother... really. I know where it's been and I know where it's going. And things will never ever be the same. It will not come back as you say and i have no soul to hand down to my kids anymore because it burned today. It burned with the 2 previously unknown species of tree, and only I knew where it grew. It's documented and registered and i protected them. They're gone.
The climate has changed and will continue to do so. Our pristine taiga climate is no more and the forests will now be consumed by oak scrub.
Yes, someone will hike through in 300 years and say, my what pretty oaks and sandy hills. This dry arid place is a bit severe but they are spooky pinticles, rough and bleak.
And there will be no understanding, no memory, no awe in the deep wet 200 foot Doug Firs and Western Reds. Maybe in museum pictures.

We're quite far apart in viewpoint but we do have the last memories of the way it was. Charish it for the time we have.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
55. Tell us more about your secret trees
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 08:50 PM
Sep 2017

I'd like to know about them.

I only had the pleasure and blessing to live 3 years in the Portland area, but I loved Oregon fiercely, and still do.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
62. It's best they be let go now.
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 02:09 AM
Sep 2017

In the '70s a hiking friend who was a geologist, a botanist and a naturalist found a species of tree that was never before catalogued. Soon after he came accross another. He was concerned they could be destroyed if they were mapped so he kept them a secret even from me. They were in the Eagle Creek Bull Run watershed area and Mt Hood Wilderness area. That's as close as I'll tell. A week before he died he told me where they were saying that he wanted to have a backup who shared his urgency to protect them. He died in eagle creek, hit his head and drowned. And now I find it difficult to have lost these life forms in this way. It magnifies the loss of my friend long ago. I don't think he could ever imagine what has happened in these days. I wish I didn't know that it did.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
61. Thank you dixiegrrrrl.
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 01:49 AM
Sep 2017

Thanks for being one of those who feel the sorrow. There seem to be less and less who understand the magitude of what we are loosing. It's a book older than civilization and older than these magificent life forms. And it tells the the story, paints the pictures and sears them into our collective memories with the warning that without unity with the earth we too will pass into oblivion as if we had never existed. But the mark we'll leave will be named destruction then forgotten.

I am deeply hurt by all this and these pictures will be buned into my heart for the rest of my life. I know that upper back country better than the maps. It was my birth, my passion, my life, my family and it will be my end.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
65. FWIW, you are echoing my son's feelings
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 05:49 PM
Sep 2017

almost word for word.
I took him camping a lot, and if not that, long road trips all over the state. Happily, he got it.
now, like you, every future day will bring sorrow for a long time.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
27. Anyone remember Perdition trail?
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:09 AM
Sep 2017

It was burned in the last big fire in the gorge what.. 20 years ago or so? The mountain side collapsed and the area became impassable. Total loss of probably the most breathtaking of the Columbia Gorge trails.

When the walls of the gorge burn, the land held together by many hundreds of years of undergrowth and volcanic ash from previous eruptions of the cascades, slides and collapses, leaving mostly bare basalt. If the climate is no longer the taiga wet rain forest it's been for thousands of years, it won't be comming back as pseudo-tsuga and cedar forests, it will be hardwood brush and scrub.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
28. Map of where the #eaglecreekfire is. NW Fire map too.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:12 AM
Sep 2017


September 5, 2017
https://www.nifc.gov/fireInfo/nfn.htm
Extreme fire weather conditions caused many fires in Montana, Oregon and California to gain thousands of acres yesterday. Currently 81 large fires have burned 1.4 million acres in nine western states. More than 27,000 firefighters and support personnel are assigned to wildland fires in the West.


http://www.oregon.gov/ODF/Fire/pages/FireStats.aspx
ODF Fire Season Statewide Briefing Map September 4, 2017








MurrayDelph

(5,292 posts)
29. It was on a trip to Multnomah Falls
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:13 AM
Sep 2017

Last edited Thu Sep 7, 2017, 06:12 PM - Edit history (1)

48 years ago that I fell in love with Oregon. Bought a house on the coast ten years ago (Inland gets too hot in the summers).

We had friend up from L.A. last week. We took them to Multnomah eight days ago.

Sad and more than angry about the jerks that did this.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
30. I was just there a few weeks ago.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:19 AM
Sep 2017

Guess it's good that I saw it then, sounds like it's gonna be a mess.

Meanwhile, my throat is raw and there's ash all over everything. Stupid fucking kids.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
32. Oregon State Police -- We need your help! seeking witnesses or those with information ...
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:36 AM
Sep 2017

Oregon State Police
7 hrs ·

Eagle Fire Update – We need your help! We have identified the suspect in this devastating fire as a fifteen year old male from Vancouver, Washington. It is believed he and others may have been using fireworks, which started the forest fire along the Eagle Creek Trail. The suspect was contacted by law enforcement in the parking lot of the trail head and cooperated with the investigation.

The Oregon State Police is seeking witnesses or those with information about the cause of the fire to come forward. This information could be anyone who heard fireworks or other explosions in the area of the Eagle Creek Trail/ Punchbowl Falls to contact OSP at 503-375-3555.

We are looking for the #PublicsAssistance to share this message


askyagerz

(776 posts)
35. Columbia Gorge is one of the few places in America
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:57 AM
Sep 2017

That will truly take your breath away. I am glad I had a chance to drive my girls through it a few months ago. I don't think the full shock of this will hit until I drive up and see for myself. We haven't seen the sun for 2 weeks in the valley because of the smoke and these idiots are playing with fireworks? Humans never cease to amaze me

Tikki

(14,549 posts)
36. This is our route to visit family in S.E. Washington State...
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 03:06 AM
Sep 2017

We were just up there in early August.

Took time to show off Hood River to the grand kids and peek at the falls.

This is a tragedy....so much beauty destroyed and lives affected.


The Tikkis

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
43. It's sad and very scary. The mountains are buring all around the northwest. Oregon,
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 10:41 AM
Sep 2017

Washington, Montana are all on fire. I live East of the fire but you can't see across the street today and breathing is getting harder every day. It disturbs me that I keep reading all the Oregonians who are screaming about the 15 year old boy who dropped the firecracker into the gorge and how he should be tried as an adult felon. He's 15. His brain doesn't work right. He's clueless. Eventually, it will hopefully hit him what he has done. I can't even read the Oregonian today. The comments aimed at this kid are as bad as those aimed at the Bundy bunch.

hunter

(38,303 posts)
44. The problem is global warming. Blame anyone who has ever used fossil fuel.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 11:00 AM
Sep 2017

If an idiot teenager hadn't started the fire, something else eventually would have.

This is the world we made.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
49. I agree. I'm actually looking for a wetter place right now. It's been over 100 and often over 105
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 01:01 PM
Sep 2017

almost every day the last 2 summers. It is getting much hotter and our winters are much colder and icier. The kid did a really stupid thing but hey, he's a teenager. They ARE stupid. They ARE clueless. Try him as an adult felon? I love the gorge as much as the next person but no, he is not an adult felon.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
63. I will check those out. Where I live has a lot of bubbas so I was hoping to find someplace wetter
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 10:05 AM
Sep 2017

and a little bluer. It's not Texas kind of red but there are some people here who fly confederate flags. Gag puke gag!!!

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
45. Eagle Creek Fire is threatening destruction that constitutes a major disaster.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 11:35 AM
Sep 2017
http://www.kptv.com/story/36294404/fema-authorizes-federal-funds-for-firefighting-efforts-in-columbia-river-gorge

FEMA authorizes federal funds for firefighting efforts in Columbia River Gorge
Posted: Sep 05, 2017 1:31 PM PDT
CASCADE LOCKS, OR (KPTV) -

The Federal Emergency Management Agency has authorized federal funds to support the firefighting efforts in the Columbia River Gorge.

FEMA announced Tuesday that the Eagle Creek Fire is threatening destruction that constitutes a major disaster.

The state of Oregon requested a federal fire management assistance grant. The authorization makes FEMA funding available to pay 75 percent of the state’s eligible firefighting costs and for managing, mitigating and controlling the fire.

The grant does not provide assistance for homeowners or business owners affected by the fire and does not cover infrastructure damage caused by the fire.

At the time of the request, Level 3 evacuation orders – meaning “go now” – had been issued for 520 people and Level 2 notices – meaning “be set to evacuate” – were issued for another 624 people.

Around 95 percent of the threatened homes are primary residences. ................


L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
48. Overnight time lapse #EagleCreekFire in Oregon
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:42 PM
Sep 2017


The Oregonian Streamed live 23 hours ago
Live camera of the Eagle Creek fire. Camera is facing Cascade Locks. Photo updated every three minutes. Webcam courtesy Oca Hoeflein.


wiggs

(7,810 posts)
52. We were just there, loving the cool water and the falls, after
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 01:43 PM
Sep 2017

Monday's awesome eclipse and on the way back to Portland. Lovely, lovely, lush area. Spent a fair amount of time standing in the water next to Bridalveil...and watched someone celebrate a loved one who had passed, by casting ashes onto the water.

LeftInTX

(25,132 posts)
54. Our niece was just up there
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 07:38 PM
Sep 2017

She's only 20 and posted a pic on FB. Everyone is like, "What are you doing in Oregon?"
It turns she had a high school friend who moved there. I'm glad she got to visit.
She's going to be very sad.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
64. Raining on the Oregon Coast this morning, a welcome change in weather for firefighters.
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 12:20 PM
Sep 2017

Nonetheless, the fires rage on:

Heavy smoke continues to spread across northwest and north-central US
Heavy smoke is being tracked in 12 states.



Wildfire smoke map, 5:24 a.m. MDT September 4, 2017. The icons represent the locations of some of the large uncontained wildfires.

Wildfire smoke map, created at 5:36 p.m. MDT September 5, 2017. NOAA.




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