BREAKING: Hurricane Irma expected to exceed theoretical maximum rating...

[brooklynite]

Eric Holthaus @ericholthaus: Wow. Hurricane #Irma is now expected to *exceed* the theoretical maximum intensity for a storm in its environment. Redefining the rules.

Kieran Bhatia @kieranbhatia: 18z SHIPS file for #IRMA has Irma at its potential intensity and exceeding it in 6 hours, good time to review how this quantity calculated

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Between these hurricanes, the disastrous fires in the West, the literal traitor

and international money launderer (s) in the White House, I think the world is ending.

For real.

I see Putin threatened world wide nuclear war yesterday, I think it was.

[elmac]

21. Friends in BC Canada are having a hard time with air quality

from the smoke. The strange light of the atmosphere plus the smoke is giving them the willies.

[demigoddess]

34. they are not the only ones. A red sun in daytime and a red moon at night!

and the smoke in the atmosphere. I bet this is why people used to believe in hell. Feels like the Twilight Zone to me.

[kimbutgar]

26. It does have a scary feeling about this now

Horrendous government and anti christ, horrible storms and division and disharmony among our fellow countrymen with no end in sight for relief.

It's as if the Native American premonitions are coming true with the white buffalo ( hurricanes metaphorically)

[fleur-de-lisa]

2. "You're gonna' need a bigger . . .

list of hurricane categories".

[pamela]

3. Breaking Bad fan?

"Elliot, if we're going to go that route...you're going to need a bigger knife."

[fleur-de-lisa]

5. LOL! No, I could never get into that show.

I've tried watching it multiple times . . . just not my thing.

I was thinking of the scene in 'Jaws' where Roy Scheider's character says, after seeing the shark for the first time, "You're gonna' need a bigger boat."

[pamela]

7. Jaws!

Right after I posted that I thought " oh, that's a Jaws reference, too. "

(You can tell I watch too much tv/too many movies.)

[dewsgirl]

10. It took my husband and I until the end of season 3 to really

Get into Breaking Bad, turned out to be one of the best tv series we've ever seen.

[fleur-de-lisa]

11. I love Bryan Cranston!

I thought he was hilarious as the dad in 'Malcolm in the Middle'. Maybe I just need to try harder!

[spiderpig]

17. And he's a Democrat!

[Ohiya]

23. I stopped watching halfway through "The Fly" episode.

Season three, I think, maybe I'll give it another chance.

[dewsgirl]

28. It gets alot better, I promise.

[adigal]

37. Ugh, I couldn't get into it. It was just so dark. Same with Ray Donovan. Good, but too much nt

[elmac]

22. yes, jaws comes to mind

I liked breaking bad as an example of why we need single payer. You would never see a breaking bad plot in Canada.

[snooper2]

18. Well, the "hurricane" on Jupiter is 10K miles across with speeds of 270 mph

just saying


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Red_Spot

[world wide wally]

27. and how big across is Irma?

[adigal]

35. I thought you were going to say, You're gonna need a bigger planet..." nt

[fleur-de-lisa]

40. Well, that too. eom

[Backwoodsrider]

4. be careful what the national news is selling and why

Irma is powerful but not going to cause near the catastrophe many people including cable news are hoping for. NOAA is on top of this storm and they been indicatingits moving to the east as of Florida then possible land in NC but the trend is showing that by Friday this thing is going to be going out to middle of Atlantic leaving limited coastal damage but nothing like cable news would like you to believe.

Why are they focusing on Irma 24/7? This morning at 9 pacific time I watch CNN and it was a lot of Irma and a little bit of DACA through out hour and finally at 8:53 they had Mara on to talk for 4 minutes about the Trump/Russia investigation and most of that was about Nunes trying to shift the focus to a lie about the Dossierre abd away from the truth of Mueller.

I hope you folks in DU are concerned that many people are deciding to keep looking at the fantasy life in their head and not the facts thus avoiding the truth.

I give us a 40/60 % change we get ride of Trump early and save our country. Probably we are going to give up dealing with painful truths in our minds and let fantasy based Trumo/Putin take over control of the world. This is the end of the democratic government theory we been pushing for 100 years.

At least we get to witness these miraculous times first hand, pass the popcorn please

[LanternWaste]

6. We can easily concentrate on more than one concern simultaneously.

We can easily concentrate on more than one concern simultaneously.

If you yourself are unable to do so, projecting that weakness onto everyone else, though certainly self-validating, is unsupported by objective evidence.

[Little Star]

8. Yep, I agree......

Most of us can walk & chew gum at the same time and don't need the lecture.

[Backwoodsrider]

16. interesting idea about me projecting i will think about that lol

I hear what you are saying LatnernWaste but I did a decent job giving evidence; has the prospected course of Irma moved to the east limiting the danger as it is not going to hit landfall straight on? Yet did CNN not take up 53 minutes covering something many of us know is going to be a misfire? Nunes request Dossierre info from FBI and DOJ?

I am not alone characterizing many of the Trump followers as living in a fantasyland of their own choice but did see an informative news program on MSNBC last ngiht. An author was on who wrote about about how America has been preparing for our downfall for 500 years and Trump is just the right man at the right time to take advantage of us putting greed ahead of common sense.

With your reply I put the numbers at 39/61 US fails, now hurry you better get back to your multiple fantasies you complicated thinker you!

[catbyte]

24. ...

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[adigal]

38. Right??? I just haven't seen any evidence that this is going to miss Florida and harmlessly

sail into the Atlantic, a sweet lil' pussycat of a storm. ??????

[catbyte]

39. No kidding. I'm not sure where s/he is getting that.

[snooper2]

20. Well, it is supported by subjective evidence so you should add that to your business case...

[muriel_volestrangler]

9. Because Caribbean islands are being hit by the worst hurricane they've ever had?

And that includes US territories of US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico. So I think US media are right to concentrate on it.

As for where it may go; the NHC shows the most likely path to be over the SE coast of Florida - right over Miami: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/145453.shtml?cone#contents

[Pacifist Patriot]

12. You see that M to the right of 8AM Monday?

That's me.

I don't take anything for granted. May continue on this path and may curve off of it. Either way, I'm grateful for the coverage!

[muriel_volestrangler]

15. Good luck - I hope it does go further out to sea, or your home is impregnable

or, failing that, you have the time and place to evacuate.

[Are_grits_groceries]

13. Miraculous times?

You gonna eat popcorn and watch Trump/hurricane/ fires/ whatever else?

You can have these miraculous times. People dying and losing what they have and you talking about popcorn?

Smdh

[Cosmocat]

25. Those odds are totally dependent on November 2018

Unless there is a Harvey like event turning Congress over to Ds, there is 0 percent change 45 goes before January of 2021.

[sandensea]

30. Good point.

As serious as any news about Irma are, the sad fact is that these GOP miscreants can always be counted on to use ongoing news stories like these in the most cynical way imaginable: to distract from their wrongdoing.

And by no means does it have to be a natural disaster. It's no secret that the months-long media circus following the Laci Peterson murder - as heinous as it was - helped contribute to Dubya's reelection by massively shifting attention away from the Iraq War during the 2003-04 campaign season.

Were calls made to CNN and the other news outfits? I doubt it - but they might as well have been.

[kiri]

31. indicatingits...indicating-itis

indicating-itis often afflicts the media.

Often causes nausea and caring-fatique. And boredom.

[Jamaal510]

32. That has been

one of my main criticisms of cable news. I have increasingly noticed how they seem to concentrate on discussing just 4-5 topics throughout the day even though there is much more news than that around the country and the world. I don't know if the problem is a lack of time they have for segments or what.

[adigal]

36. I have not seen one forecast that sends this hurricane out into the Atlantic without hitting

Florida. I think you maybe were listening to Limbaugh's weather forecast???

[maxrandb]

14. This will make Donnie Short Fingers jealous

He hates anything that exceeds his ratings

[robertpaulsen]

19. Global warming eventually supplants hurricanes with hypercanes.

Wikipedia describes hypercanes as such:

In order to form a hypercane, according to Emanuel's hypothetical model, the ocean temperature would have to be 48 °C (120 °F). A critical difference between a hypercane and present-day hurricanes is that a hypercane would extend into the upper stratosphere, whereas present-day hurricanes extend into only the lower stratosphere.[6]

Hypercanes would have wind speeds of over 800 km/h (500 mph), and would also have a central pressure of less than 70 kilopascals (21 inHg) (700 millibars), giving them an enormous lifespan.[4] For comparison, the largest and most intense storm on record was 1979's Typhoon Tip, with a wind speed of 305 kilometres per hour (190 mph) and central pressure of 87 kilopascals (26 inHg) (870 millibars). Such a storm would be eight times more powerful than the strongest storms yet recorded.

Sound too bad to be possible? Well, if GOP business-as-usual continues to the end of this century (that's 83 more years), this is the scenario Mark Lynas in his book Six Degrees describes: spontaneously generated hypersonic methane fireballs rocketing out of the sky and incinerating everything in their path. Hypercanes (not Hurricanes) which pound coastal areas for days with enough water to wash out every living thing for dozens of kilometers inland. Giant 70 foot sea level rises which turn most great cities into Atlantis. 130-40 daytime temperatures. Lifeless, acidic oceans with hot tub temperatures.

What will the GOP response be then? Probably a similar reaction to the one Benicio del Toro had in the movie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas when his cocaine flew out the window:

My reply will be similar to Johnny Depp: "God didn't do that. You did it!"

[Javaman]

29. I'll just leave this here...

all kidding aside, this is some truly scare shit.

[ananda]

33. It looks to me as though climate change ..

.. might be the political game breaker.

[jpak]

41. I saw a prediction of 210 mph sustained winds in FL Straight

Horror Movie - yup

[brooklynite]

42. Likelihood on Hurricane-force winds impacting Florida...

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