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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:25 PM Sep 2017

'Bluffed their way into total victory': GOP 'furious' as Trump caves to Dem debt ceiling demands

BRAD REED
06 SEP 2017 AT 14:20 ET

In their negotiations for government funding, Congressional Democrats wanted to pass a three-month debt ceiling increase that would keep the government funded through mid-December.

Congressional Republicans opposed such a measure, as they feared it would give Democrats more leverage to reauthorize Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) protections for undocumented immigrants who were brought to the United States as children.

However, as the Washington Post reports, Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) convinced Trump to go along with them on their three-month debt limit plan — and Republicans in Congress are not happy about it.

One Republican aide told Axios reporter Jonathan Swan that the Democrats “bluffed their way into total victory” over the GOP, and bemoaned that “DACA will be reauthorized without strings.” Additionally, the aide wrote that Schumer has now “inserted himself into all the negotiations in the winter, including tax, spending, and immigration.”




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http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/bluffed-their-way-into-total-victory-gop-furious-as-trump-caves-to-dem-debt-ceiling-demands/
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'Bluffed their way into total victory': GOP 'furious' as Trump caves to Dem debt ceiling demands (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2017 OP
Help me understand, the GOP is furious because we wont kill Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #1
This is why we need Pelosi. Phoenix61 Sep 2017 #2
Exactly - I don't like Schumer's demeanor all the time, he delivers. As for Pelosi.... George II Sep 2017 #17
omg cilla4progress Sep 2017 #3
Glad to see Trump getting rolled for once Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2017 #4
when it comes to real negotiations NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #6
The Freedom Caucus Wellstone ruled Sep 2017 #5
How dare he zipplewrath Sep 2017 #7
Technically, the Dem senators represent at least a million more voters than the GOP anyway. LisaM Sep 2017 #14
THE ART OF THE DEAL!!! bullwinkle428 Sep 2017 #8
One good thing today, two bad. BadgerMom Sep 2017 #9
Could you explain leftynyc Sep 2017 #19
All about the Mueller investigation BadgerMom Sep 2017 #20
I thought about that part leftynyc Sep 2017 #21
If only people would take notice that Pelosi and Schumer can get things done aeromanKC Sep 2017 #10
Wow Turbineguy Sep 2017 #11
Trump likes to be the winner. forgotmylogin Sep 2017 #16
Stop giving Drumpf any credit for anything central scrutinizer Sep 2017 #18
all their dirty tricks, obstructionism, bait and switch, barbtries Sep 2017 #12
I'll forego the champagne for now gratuitous Sep 2017 #13
Trump's legislative success: debt limit increase. keithbvadu2 Sep 2017 #15

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. Help me understand, the GOP is furious because we wont kill
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:30 PM
Sep 2017

young people now?

Well wait, let me be fair, because we wont send them into unknown environments where they very well may be killed.

Phoenix61

(17,002 posts)
2. This is why we need Pelosi.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:32 PM
Sep 2017

Schumer also rocks. Glad we seem to have learned how to play sneaky. WooHoo! About time.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. Exactly - I don't like Schumer's demeanor all the time, he delivers. As for Pelosi....
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 07:14 PM
Sep 2017

....everyone faults her but she delivers.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
7. How dare he
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:56 PM
Sep 2017
Additionally, the aide wrote that Schumer has now “inserted himself into all the negotiations in the winter, including tax, spending, and immigration.”


How dare a freely elected representative of the people, and the leader of the minority party dare to be involved in the drafting of legislation that affects the whole country! Especially such exclusive territory as taxes, spending and immigration.

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
14. Technically, the Dem senators represent at least a million more voters than the GOP anyway.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 04:53 PM
Sep 2017

Exactly, how dare he "insert" himself into negotiations?

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
9. One good thing today, two bad.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 04:08 PM
Sep 2017

This is the good one. The bad include McCain changing his position on repealing and replacing the ACA and Gowdy and Nunes targeting Sessions and his job. The GOP is comprised of such jerks.

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
20. All about the Mueller investigation
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 07:43 PM
Sep 2017

If they can take out Sessions without Trump's fingerprints on it, then a new AG, picked by Trump, could head the inquiry and/or fire Mueller.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
21. I thought about that part
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 05:46 AM
Sep 2017

but I honestly think the investigation is beyond that at this point. That's why the news Schneiderman was working on it was so crucial and made in such a public way. And after what Donnie pulled yesterday, I'm not sure the cons are in the mood to help him - which may be another reason he did what he did yesterday. I think he's livid they haven't stopped the investigation for him.

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
10. If only people would take notice that Pelosi and Schumer can get things done
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 04:23 PM
Sep 2017

The Democrats might be able to take the Congress back in 2018..??

IF Only!!

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
16. Trump likes to be the winner.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 05:28 PM
Sep 2017

He knows what his approval numbers are, and he has demonstrated his loyalty lies nowhere. It makes sense he'd rather be on the winning side.

Not that this will change him whatsoever, but if we have a puppet president, we need to grab the strings.

Plus if he does some favors for the Democrats, he might think he'll get some leniency with regard to making Russia go away.

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
18. Stop giving Drumpf any credit for anything
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 07:17 PM
Sep 2017

All he does is watch TV and play golf. No way he has any idea of any of the issues involved here. Somebody whispered something in his ear and stuck a pen in his hand. Who knows what their agenda is or what Machiavellian plot they are cooking.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
12. all their dirty tricks, obstructionism, bait and switch,
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 04:41 PM
Sep 2017

mcconnell trying to repeal the HCA all by himself, at the end of the day this is all they care about?

does any fucking republican care about the country? for gawdsake they're making the president look better than them!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. I'll forego the champagne for now
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 04:47 PM
Sep 2017

I want to see what actually comes out of this deal. But for a while, I believe I'll refer to President Trump as the Stradivarius, because it sounds like he got played.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
15. Trump's legislative success: debt limit increase.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 05:06 PM
Sep 2017

Trump's legislative success: debt limit increase.

Republicans are falsely trying to blame the democrats.

Dems cannot increase the debt limit.

Repubs control both Houses of Congress and the WH.

Dems can only assist the repubs in this endeavor.

This is what the repubs want no matter how they whine.

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