I'm unsure why everyone keeps wishing for Mar-a-lago and other Trump properties to be destroyed.

[JoeStuckInOH]

1) Like any property owner, I'm certain the properties are well insured.
2) Because Trump lies about everything, I'm certain his property values are insured for very inflated values.
3) I'm also certain his properties are suffering financial downturns due to his massive political unpopularity.

So the best thing for Trump's properties at this time would probably be total destruction via natural disaster. He'll get an insurance payout much more substantial than what he could sell them for at this point in his life.

I once had a roommate that now owns several properties for subsidized housing in lower income neighborhoods. They are functional and do generate positive income for him. But every now and then one burns down or something and he elated because they are typically insured for values significantly exceeding what they cost him.

[FSogol]

1. Translation: Tsk, tsk everyone.

[Lucinda]

38. I dont think so. It's pretty accurate. He'll make a fortune if he has property damage. n/t

[kimbutgar]

2. the scary thing is that these hurricanes might cause many insurers to go bankrupt.

[Hortensis]

24. No. Government doesn't allow geographic over-involvement for that reason,

plus most aren't selling flood insurance in flood areas at all.

The National Flood Insurance Program does that. Now, that's hideously in debt. When started, it was never meant to allow profiteers to develop previously commercially uninsurable areas. Nor for that matter was it created to allow middle class people to build dream homes on high-risk waterfront.

[MFM008]

3. If it annoys him

I'm for it.

[BannonsLiver]

5. I think if Mar-a-Loco were destroyed it would wound him emotionally.

And I don't think he would ever get over it. Sure he's insured (duh, no big revelation there) but it would never be quite the same.

[MFM008]

11. Exactly

Thank you.

[smirkymonkey]

16. I think there is something to that. There is a certain amount of prestige to owning these places.

Also, doesn't he have like 3 different golf courses in the path of the hurricane? If they are destroyed, it's going to take a while to build them back up. Donny won't like having his comfortable life uprooted like that. He's a man of habit.

[kysrsoze]

29. For my own enjoyment, i want to see it happen.

Just because fuck him and i want him to witness everything he loves there being trashed.

[cyclonefence]

4. You didn't see the second part of my wish

for Mar-A-Lago to be destroyed: I want the insurance policy to have lapsed because of non-payment of premiums.

And even if Trump benefits from an excellent insurance policy, I want the symbolism gone. I don't want him to have this famous old estate available to take foreign dignitaries to. It gives him a certain cachet that he hasn't earned.

I want them to have to stay at the Holiday Inn Express, with free breakfast.

[JoeStuckInOH]

6. True. But he'll just go somewhere else unecessarily oppulent.

[cyclonefence]

9. One step at a time...

Are there other magnificent estates for sale in Florida? I know there are lots of magnificent places up north, but Trump wants to be in the south. And the pedigree of Mar-A-Lago can't be overestimated in this equation.

And he'd have to find financing--that just occurred to me--and he sure as hell can't go to the Russians now!

Nope--M-A-L has got to go.

[MontanaMama]

7. It appears you are "concerned"

as to why some of us want 45's precious Mar-a-lago leveled and then flooded beyond repair. I don't give a crap if he gets insurance money. If the insurance underwriters wrote a policy for more than they should have then they've got that coming. I want that crappy place GONE mostly because he loves it. That might be small and petty but that's where I'm at right now.

[JoeStuckInOH]

17. I'm just pointing out that people are ignorant if they think this will "hurt" Trump.

Especially considering the damage to normal jobs and folks in the area whose lives will be wrecked ... you know, in the off chance that some guy's resort that I don't really like gets destroyed.

Such ignorant pettiness. But I suppose it's everyone's right to sound like an ignoramus, if they so choose.

Carry on.

[LanternWaste]

30. Or a troll.

"But I suppose it's everyone's right to sound like an ignoramus, if they so choose..."

Or sound like a simplistic troll maintaining the pretense of ethical righteousness (no doubt, both our vague implications certainly carry the same weight of sincerity).

[MontanaMama]

41. Uhhhhh. Yeah...

There's that!

[Orsino]

8. It's not like a disaster would get him to acknowledge climate change.

And why wish destruction and injury on anyone? Aren't we already sick of Trump playing the victim?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

10. I'm just thinking more along the lines of the 6 million other people who live around Mar a Lago.

Such as myself.

This isn't a narrow little tornado with razor blade accuracy.

[OldHippieChick]

12. But, but, but

wouldn't this prompt Pat Robertson or Franklin Graham to acknowledge the sinful opulence of the place which guided God's hand to destroy it?

[Blue_Adept]

13. Trump deserves plenty of hate, but we're getting close to TDS

Trump Derangement Syndrome is pushing a lot of people in some bad directions that are hard to come back from. We've seen it with those that had it with Obama and quite a few in regards to Dubya.

It's pretty dispiriting because it removes a level of common sense and basic compassion from their equation in dealing with things and that spreads to other areas.

[Orrex]

18. The difference is that Trump deserves it; Obama did not.

Compassion for others should be the default position, but it's simply foolish to prioritize compassion for one's abuser while the abuse is ongoing.

[Blue_Adept]

20. Right, but they're taking it to such an extreme.

In pretty much every Irma thread there's at least one post about hoping maralogo gets hit.

And that's on top of another dozen standalone threads that come up about it every day.

And since it won't really impact him, it's just kind of weird in a disturbing way to see how people are latching onto this as a way to feel like they're making some sort of impact on him.

[LanternWaste]

31. I don't think an ineffectual wish possessing zero weight nor any consequence, is an extreme.

I don't think an ineffectual wish possessing zero weight nor any consequence, is an extreme.

[Blue_Adept]

21. Essentially, just a reminder to some, don't become that which you hate

[Orrex]

26. LOL. Well...

Until I'm able to become a tax dodging, pee-catching, pussy-grabbing, daughter-coveting, child-peeping, incompetent small-handed narcissist, I don't think I'm in much danger of becoming what I hate.

[Blue_Adept]

28. A lot of people are being driven to anger by him, rightly so

but they're also becoming consumed by that anger. You can see that, right? I know it's fun to throw the stuff you did there because laughter helps, but there's truth to the anger side.

[Orrex]

34. Ultimately, yes

At a certain point, anger festers into futile bitterness, and nothing good comes of it.

I despise Trump, but not actually to the point of wishing violence on him, for instance.

I will admit, however, that I have absolutely no compassion for him, and I would delight in his humiliation and downfall, whatever the circumstances.

[avebury]

14. I don't think that he inflates the value of his property

because that would increase his real estate taxes and we know how much he works to avoid paying taxes.

If his properties are taken out by Irma then it will illiiminate one of his profit sources for tax payor dollars. He has been President under 9 months and has already traveled more than President Obama did in 8 years, bankrupting the SS budget at the same time. SS agents who have reached the maximum allowed income effectively have to work for no money the rest of the year. I don't wish ill for anyone else in Florida but won't be sorry if Trump takes a hit.

[Orrex]

15. I don't want Mar-a-Lago destroyed...

because he'll cut himself a check out of the disaster relief fund, rebuild bigger than before, by imminent domaining a bunch of surrounding properties, and then write off the whole thing as a loss.

I would much rather have him whisked into the sky by Irma's cataclysmic winds, ripping the orange growth from his pate and dropping him into a sewage processing tank where he's discovered still alive six or seven days later.

[moda253]

19. One of the turn offs on this forum is the constant judging.

Like you can never say anything tongue in cheek even.

[ProfessorGAC]

22. Wouldn't An Inflated Property Value. . .

. . .lead to inflated premiums? You think that crew would pay more than they have to, just in case a big storm hit?

Not seeing it.

[Dem2]

23. I agree, it's silly

Just the idea of wishing something bad that's very unlikely to occur anyway; it's just wrong.

[pnwmom]

25. Not necessarily. He applied for and got FEMA money for Mar a Lago in the past. nt

[Vermijelli]

27. Wishing destruction of Mar-a-lago is wishing destruction on the rest of Palm Beach county

What would be a pretty minor inconvenience to Trump would be hell for people who live there. And if we really must keep track of which voters live where in a time like this, PBC went for Hillary.

[TeamPooka]

32. not sure about your #3 allegation. His properties are charging more than ever and are busy as heck

yes some events have pulled out of Maralago but fees doubled to 200K per year and his other hotels seem to be doing big business, especially the DC hotel

[Hassin Bin Sober]

33. Trump spells that out in this video @ 1:25

[Warpy]

35. Oh, I think the loss of that rococo nightmare and the beeyouteeful chocolate cake

with the automatic two scoops of ice cream he enjoyed there will wound him deeply, it's where he took people to prove how rich and important he is. His monstrosity in NYC won't do, it's too small, and the White House is full of all that old furniture and there's no gilt.

Yeah, he'll make money on its destruction, but it won't compensate him for its loss.

[Binkie The Clown]

36. Human nature: Enemy bad. Crush, kill, destroy.

Burn their fields, kill their sons, rape their daughters. It's all in the Bible. It's human nature at its finest.

[TheBlackAdder]

37. Trump probably will legally launder money, with a 20 times appraised value Russian indemnity policy.

[Lucinda]

39. Yep. Read something earlier about how much money he raked in when he just had minor hurricane damage

in the past. He would definitely come out ahead and just build it mo bigger.

[sofa king]

40. It's to teach him empathy.

No insurance is going to mitigate the sense of loss or helplessness that one experiences in the aftermath of a disaster. Trumpnus will also still experience some of the annoyance of restitution and rebuilding.

The problem with Cluster B personality disorders is that those people DO NOT GIVE A SHIT about the pain or suffering of others... until they experience it personally. Once in a while the light comes on and they understand. We see this happen to conservatives all the time, like the parade of Republican politicians who suddenly shifted their stance on the Iraq war when their own sons and daughters got shipped out to it.

If Trumpnus personally shares in the disaster there is a much larger chance that he will take an interest in helping in its aftermath, if only to help himself.

[Expecting Rain]

42. Personally, I think it is grotesque and shameful to wish destruction on anyone...

not to mention that Trump properties are settled in with those of others in the hurricane's path.

Mar-a-Lago is a spectacular work of architecture and a national treasure IMO. I hate that such a beautiful estate is in any way associated with an odious pig like Donald Trump, but he didn't build it.

I hope it survives his ownership for generations to come.

Maybe as a "cautionary museum" whose focus is on how close we got to American Fascism, before trump was ejected from power?

[XRubicon]

43. F Mar A Scamo

He is a slum lord on Palm Beach. His neighbors are real billionaires.