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[Madam Mossfern]

1. We need to stand together

or we lose everything we've been fighting for for decades.
The infighting needs to stop...right...now.

[RiverStone]

41. Agree! Hopefully, Hillary vs Bernie infighting threads will be limited by DU Admin

I posted a request to that effect in the Ask the Admin section. At least, set up a section outta the main discussion forum for folks who want to forever rehash H vs B.

Standing together against the fascist regime should be our prime directive. Winning in 2018 is not assured and we need all hands on deck!

[R B Garr]

2. Bernie needs to explain why Vermont doesn't have single payer.

Quit blaming good Democrats for things he can't get done himself.

[leftstreet]

6. It's in the clip...all those things are fights. Hillary should help

15 wage
single payer

The wealthy aren't going to hand those things to the peons

Hillary needs to help in the fight

[R B Garr]

7. Bernie needs to explain why he is attacking good Democrats over single payer

when he hasn't gotten it done himself.

Helping in the fight also means not attacking good elected Democrats. That's hypocritical.

[leftstreet]

9. Ask Shumlin

As Governor he fucked up and allowed large business exemptions

So it wasn't really single payer

[R B Garr]

10. Bernie should be asking Shumlin. He claims to be so influential, so he

should show people how his influence is actually helping Democrats instead of smearing good people who have the same limitations he does politically. Use his influence for good instead of divisiveness.

[leftstreet]

11. LOL n/t

[R B Garr]

12. Exactly! How can he claim to lead Democrats if he has these insurmountable

problems in such a small state.

[Qutzupalotl]

25. He's not a state senator.

He doesn't work with the Republican governor.

As a U.S. senator, it makes sense for him to push for single payer nationally.

[R B Garr]

27. That's a laughable excuse. He is touted for having popularity and influence,

but he cannot influence people in his own small state. So why is he lambasting good Democrats for something he can't get done himself. If you claim to have a moral authority, then no excuses.

[Qutzupalotl]

28. What a laughable response. Do you know how state government works?

It doesn't sound like you do.

[R B Garr]

29. That's laughable. But it figures you think this excuse will absolve him

of having to actually explain why Vermont doesn't have single payer. He should explain to voters why what he demands of Democrats, he hasn't been able to do himself.

[Qutzupalotl]

30. The only one who should explain this to you

is your civics teacher.

[R B Garr]

31. This is an excuse that Bernie does not tolerate from Democrats.

They are held to a different standard than he holds himself.

He should tell people not to harass good Democrats such as the elected Assemblyman in Los Angeles that they are trying to recall. There is no excuse for harassing good elected Democrats like that.
https://ballotpedia.org/Anthony_Rendon_recall,_California_State_Assembly_(2017)

[Qutzupalotl]

34. That's not a different standard.

Rendon is in the State Assembly, which is the appropriate body, and could move the bill forward but won't.

[R B Garr]

40. It is not a different standard. No one submitted the numbers for the single payer,

so they left Rendon holding the bag and are using him to make Democrats look bad without explaining the actual facts. Someone needs to explain that instead of demonizing Rendon. This bandwagon stuff has gotten way out of hand.

[Bluepinky]

35. I'm tired of the anti-Bernie people.

He's talking about unifying the party.
It's like your mother said, "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

[R B Garr]

43. I'm tired of Democrats being blamed for things that he hasn't obtained himself.

He should explain why Vermont doesn't have single payer.

He should tell people to quit harassing good Democrats for things he hasn't gotten done himself.

Quit trying to recall good Democrats over something that was undoable to start with.
https://ballotpedia.org/Anthony_Rendon_recall,_California_State_Assembly_(2017)

[Old Vet]

72. OK, So what do you say about the people protesting at HRC book signing?

Are you tired of that bullshit or OK with it? As far as Iam concerned Bernie is ancient history. People need to get there fucking heads out of the sand and look forward rather than backwards IMHO....

[stevenleser]

47. Federal senators wield a massive amount of influence in their states

It's disengenuous to pretend you don't know this.

Someone who purports to have the requisite leadership to be President has an even bigger expectation in terms of being able to influence events in their state as a federal senator.

[Qutzupalotl]

49. Influence doesn't allocate funds.

It also doesn't help that the governor is a Republican.

[stevenleser]

109. It absolutely does. In 2010 one US senator had $490 million in pork directed to his state

http://www.presspubs.com/opinion/columnists/article_33109297-e19b-543f-ad27-45e9e1c2c12f.html

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

[Qutzupalotl]

110. A US Senator can't force a state legislature to allocate state funds.

Your example of a US Senator allocating federal funds is irrelevant.

[AncientGeezer]

122. Exactly....

[R B Garr]

69. Welcome to DU, and you don't know any good elected Democrats?

Really?

[DesertRat]

77. Look it up while you're in the library.

[Sunlei]

103. How he attacking? what's this?

Link to tweet

Shes a co-signer on Bernies single payer bill along with several other Ds.

[R B Garr]

105. LOL, maybe she can help get it passed in Vermont.

[asuhornets]

96. So Hillary should adopt Sanders positions? n/t

[leftofcool]

98. Hillary is a private citizen now. She is not in politics

She has a new PAC going with Obama and Howard Dean and they are doing other things.

[ProfessorPlum]

14. Sanders doesn't need to do anything

being a senator from a state doesn't mean that you are in control of that state. duh.

[R B Garr]

15. Exactly! Substitute that excuse in for other politicians, and then apologize

for holding them to standards you are unable to meet yourself.

I love that quote:

"being a senator from a state doesn't mean that you are in control of that state. duh."

That's a great start for him.

[ProfessorPlum]

52. ?

[R B Garr]

55. Other politicans have limitations just like he does.

Reality.

[ProfessorPlum]

57. okaaaayyyy.

I agree, the power to make a goal happen single-handedly is different from supporting and working toward a goal.

Not sure that was at issue.

[ehrnst]

32. If he is going to make Single Payer a centerpiece of his career

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then I would think that he would want to be forthcoming with lessons learned from his home state.

That would indicate his being knowledgable, up to date on the obstacles (political, financial, and cultural) and working on ways to address those obstacles on a national scale.

Isn't that how one effectively advocates for an issue such as Single Payer?

Brushing off discussion of the Vermont experiment doesn't further the discussion at all, and can appear to be avoiding any information at all that doesn't fit a narrative.

[R B Garr]

18. Ah, double standards, no surprise. Your posts since you joined yesterday

are all on one subject, so you should take your own advice and just let it go already.

[R B Garr]

20. Your posts are all on one subject since you joined yesterday.

So it looks like you are the one consumed.

Trying to attack good Democrats is something that Bernie needs to address. He needs to send a clear statement that it won't be tolerated. That's why it's good Clinton is pointing out the hypocrisy.

You should take my advice and let it go.

[R B Garr]

23. Your posts are about promoting Bernie. Denigrating Clinton is not necessary

and neither is denigrating other good Democrats. You look like you are reliving the primary crap with nonstop posts making Bernie a victim. Reality is that there is an FBI investigation into the GE, and the situations that preceded that are what gave the Russians an edge they shouldn't have had.

This is a critique, too, so double standards again.

Bernie should explain why Vermont doesn't have single payer. He should tell people at his rally that political ideals are great, but there are also political realities. He should be warning people not to primary good Democrats over some talking points he hasn't gotten done himself.

[RandomAccess]

39. When did Bernie have control over Vermont's laws?

How is telling people -- every chance he gets -- that ONLY a "political revolution" will accomplish Medicare for All, and other things he promotes not a good, strong caution about "political reality"?

As for primarying "good Democrats," that's nobody's business, least of all his. It's not as if he's calling for it or even suggesting it. As a rule, the DNC and esp DCCC and DSCC back the incumbent -- or the more "establishment" type well-connected Democrat -- to such an extent no one else can get close.

And besides, if "good Democrats" don't want to be primaried, maybe they should be such "good Democrats" no one would even consider it?

I'll swear. We all marvel and cluck cluck about Republican "hive mind" (as I call it), but Democrats are all protectionist about things, which Republicans decidedly are not. They understand anyone and everyone has an equal right to run for office and don't expect people to give up that right to "protect" anyone. They also don't seem to think anyone's vote is "owed" to anyone.

I've been a Democrat for as long as I've been a voter and began to understand the difference between the 2 parties -- TRUST ME, a good, lonnnng time. But these days I'm feeling less and less and less included in what the Democratic Party and its most ardent supporters apparently stand for.

The Democratic Party is going to have to change, and a lot, or suffer the consequences. If it doesn't become a LOT more responsive to its grassroots, it will become irrelevant. Bernie will never run as an Independent, so that's not the threat. The threat is just increasing lack of enthusiasm for the "same ole, same ole" and concomitant lack of votes to go with it.

[ban1941]

86. Thank you for your comments.

As another "old" Democrat, I have become sickened by the arguments on DU. I am not an optimist about what is going to happen in our country if the Democratic Party does not get its act together and increase our Representatives in Congress. Working towards that goal should be the only matter we should be discussing at this point in time.

[R B Garr]

120. You are not making any sense. It's not hard to answer why

Bernie won't tell people why Vermont doesn't have single payer. No reason to get angry about that request and deflect about me personally.

There is no reason to tell Hillary to be quiet; is this s coronation? No, it's someone who is just trying to control the dialogue by implying derogatory things about her again. Enough of that. Lots of people want to hear from her. That's life. Everyone gave him plenty of space to say what he wanted.

[Expecting Rain]

26. I'd suggest if a person is truly seeking unity...

it would be better to say:

I'd like to join with you and together we can work to move things forward.

The phraseology could be improved, but you get the point. Or perhaps you don't?

[Expecting Rain]

116. What does that even mean???

[Agschmid]

33. I am so sick of reading this "argument"...

A senator doesn't run a state, that's the end of it. Cut the bullshit.

[R B Garr]

38. No, cut this bullshit. This is the bullshit that needs to be cut.

Trying to recall a good elected Democrat is just insane. Someone needs to call this out. And how completely absurd to attack Democrats for something you can't get done yourself.

https://ballotpedia.org/Anthony_Rendon_recall,_California_State_Assembly_(2017)

That "recall" effort is just beyond absurd.

If a Senator who held a national campaign to influence people is not accountable, then that is what needs to be called out.

[Agschmid]

42. Yes exactly HE CANNOT GET IT DONE.

He is not in STATE government.

WHAT THE FUCK.

[R B Garr]

51. WHAT THE FUCK is right. He is a Senator who wants to lend his

influence, but apparently that is not reality. He should explain the political realities. He should explain why Vermont doesn't have single payer.

[Agschmid]

65. He's been "lending his damn influence" the whole time.

What the hell do you think he's been doing?

[R B Garr]

67. So has Hillary -- from decades ago. So have lots of politicians. So let's not blame Democrats for

something that is a politically heavy lift. If he lent his influence and still couldn't get it done, then he needs to lay off Democrats and explain what's involved.

This isn't a difficult concept, and I don't see any reason to bow down to accepting excuses from one politician who claims to have a moral authority. That's all. No double standards.

[LiberalLovinLug]

45. "Bernie needs to explain why Vermont doesn't have single payer"

So you are saying that the US shall never have universal single payer healthcare ever and Bernie should just give up on it because it failed the first time he tried to get it done in his own State? That one should never try again if you fail once, no matter what great good will come out of it.

Tell that to the suffragettes, or to those that fought for gay marriage, or pot legalization....

Oh, and Hillary 'failed' to get her version of universal health care passed as well when she was working with her husband President. I guess she doesn't have any legs to stand on this issue either according to your "logic".

Can't you just stay out of any thread with Bernie in the title? If you don't have anything nice to say....you are sowing discord.

[R B Garr]

53. LOL, What About Hillary already?

That's the point. Bernie should explain the political realities of Universal Health care when Clinton tried it decades ago. A good honest progressive thing to do way back in the '90s.

He should explain the political realities of getting healthcare passed.

And this thread is about discord -- the clip was about his unrealistic comments about Hillary.

[LiberalLovinLug]

61. So its "unrealistic" to expect Hillary to "have her help going forward"?

Got it.

And Bernie should just shut up and accept the "political realities" that its never going to happen and tell the American people as much. Because.....political reality NEVER changes ever, and keeping it in the public discourse doesn't help it move forward at all.

Got it.

[R B Garr]

66. To berate other politicians over political realities that have also blocked you is

divisive, damaging and dishonest. Political realities are numerous: votes and costs being the most obvious.

Thanks again to Hillary for moving us forward on Healthcare way back when even discussing it was incredibly damaging for a politician. What a progressive thing to do, THANK YOU HILLARY. See, how hard was that. Making snide references to her character and intentions is really not moving forward at all.

[LiberalLovinLug]

82. It wasn't me making snide comments

I was pointing out your hypocrisy that is all.

Yes...thank you Hillary! I agree. For at least making the attempt and pushing the conversation forward.

So why is it so damn difficult for you to praise Sen. Sanders for doing the same today? Or at least, if you can't bear to do that, just stay away?

[R B Garr]

88. Sanders' is just trying to make things on his terms only. Imagine if Hillary had turned the

tables like this or even answered each of his personal attacks. She had to stifle herself. What she is saying is long overdue.

The pushback from Sanders is just a way to control the dialogue and make everything on his terms. But that is precisely why we are here, and Clinton has every right and reason to speak out.

This is a real FBI investigation about the GE hacking, so expect to see more of this type dialogue. She was the target, so people want to hear from her.

[LiberalLovinLug]

92. "the pushback from Sanders"?

He was reacting to a question about an attack against HIM in her book. And his response was dignified, and he did not fall for the bait and instead invited her to join the fight.

And "his terms only"? Gee I thought he works with other Democrats. And inviting Hillary seems to be the opposite of that.

I'll agree with you on your one point: "people want to hear from her". But a lot of people also want to hear from Bernie. Get used to it.

[R B Garr]

94. A lot of people should also hear from him as to why Vermont does not have single payer.

*She* was the target of attacks. So he wasn't answering that, but trying to make thing on his terms by implying she should take the high ground when reality is that she took the high ground far too long.

This is not a difficult concept at all. You should get used to it, too.

[LiberalLovinLug]

101. Do you enjoy pretzels?

Youre great at making a post into one.

If you really want some information on why it failed here is a good article on Vox:

https://www.vox.com/2014/12/22/7427117/single-payer-vermont-shumlin

Trying to implement it with a small base of taxpayers, and with opposition from corporations from outside the State is much more difficult than having a national base to work with. But that isn't even what this OP was about. You are fantastic at straw men and red herrings and pretzels I'll grant you that.

And knowing how much you like the last word have at it. Arguing with you is fun for the sake of honing those kinds of skills but tiring after awhile trying to get through.

cheers.

[R B Garr]

104. LOL, love the shift into the machinations of politics, as if every politician doesn't

also face limitations or realities. Why don't you just admit that there is no reason for Sanders to denigrate Democrats over single payer because he also faced realities that limited his vision. That is reality, and Democrats have it, too.

I love the rush to make this about me personally. No one has answered with the obvious yet, and they never will because to do so takes away much of his argument.

[Maraya1969]

63. Don't you realize that all this infighting is exactly what the Russians want, and set up?

If there wasn't this type of infighting we would have a Democrat in the presidency right now.

Don't for one minute think you have not been assaulted and influenced by Russian propaganda.

Either we all win or we all lose.

[R B Garr]

73. That's why it's good that Clinton points out the attacks on her.

Instead of trying to shuffle her off, Bernie should be pointing out what was done to attack her. Why wouldn't he do that.

[QC]

99. The Russians don't have to make DU suck.

There are plenty of longtime members eager to do it for them.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

71. Yeah, senators are clearly responsible for all decisions in their state!

You do know he's a national senator, right? And he is doing that which he was elected to do--work on national policy.

Do you blame Tammy Baldwin for the nonsense Scott Walker is doing?
Heidi Heitkamp for the bad decisions in North Dakota?
Bill Nelson for the complete idiocy of Rick Scott?

You are stooping pretty low for something to be pissed at Sanders about. Maybe you need to have a beer tonight and just relax.

[R B Garr]

78. I know what Sanders is, LOL. Everyone knows. And love the Whataboutism.

It's certainly not low to hold a politician accountable for his attacks on others. He would be more than a Senator if he was trying to lead the nation, so to attack other politicians for not influencing others is disingenuous to say the least.

This is not a difficult concept to understand. The pushback is interesting because of the name of the Senator, certainly not the concept of holding politicians accountable, lol.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

83. It's not "whataboutism." It's a question asking if you are consistent.

You blame Sanders for what happens at the state level in Vermont. Do you Nelson for what happens in Florida?

What happens at a national level is different than what happens at the state level. Do you not think we should have single payer in the US? I think we should. So does Sanders. He's trying to make it happen. He also thinks that Dems should stop the infighting and unite against the Republicans. Do you not think that is a good idea?

It's time to move forward.

[R B Garr]

89. This is not difficult. Sanders held himself out as a moral authority. He led

people to believe that he had the answers, so it's okay to hold him accountable, especially when what is happening is to harass good elected Democrats in the name of accountability:

https://ballotpedia.org/Anthony_Rendon_recall,_California_State_Assembly_(2017)

That is outrageous and is angering a lot of people. Harassing Democrats like that is just inexcusable.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

121. Several things

1. Good to know we are going to hold US senators accountable for everything. I await seeing your articles relating to others.
2. That link doesn't work.
3. Are you telling me that Sanders is the motivating force for that recall?
4. Rendon was kind of an ass on that one. Don't you think we should have single payer? (Not going unnoticed that you haven't answered that.)
5. So anyone that is a Democrat shouldn't be held accountable by their constituents because they are Dems? Sounds like a silly standard that will let the politicians do what they please.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

3. That's what true leadership looks like.

[leftstreet]

4. DURec

Time to move forward

[DBoon]

5. yes!

Nt

[Greybnk48]

8. K&R n/t

[comradebillyboy]

13. The irony of the Independent Senator from Vermont

demanding that Hillary bow down to him and the Democratic obediently unite behind a non Democrat. Bernie is not a team player.

[pnwmom]

37. He left the party and now he sits there, judging it from on high. He's not a team player.

[MrsCoffee]

64. Someone made a great point the other day about that.

I can't find the post, but it was; What do you call the guy who works in a union shop, gets a union negotiated wage, gets union negotiated benefits, but refuses to join the union?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

75. Unless they live in a bullshit "Right to Work" state

you would call them not working there.

[GoCubsGo]

80. That is a good analogy.

And, I'll add "wants to dictate the negotitations", yet refuses to join the union.

[GoCubsGo]

74. He didn't leave the party.

He was never a member to begin with. Which makes it even more ridiculous. It's beyond me why he (or his ardent defenders) thinks any Democrat should take what he says seriously regarding their party, when he refuses to become one himself.

[The River]

22. The Rest of the Interview

was much more "revealing".

[CousinIT]

24. I agree. Like it or not Dems and Sanders will have to work together.

There's no other way.

[elleng]

36. No doubt, but it appears many (here at least) won't see it that way.

[chwaliszewski]

44. In all fairness, Bernie is trying to get things done.

You may not approve of his methods, but he's trying. You can argue "Well, he's a senator, that's his job!" and you'd be correct. However, what is Hillary doing to help? And no, this is not Hillary bashing in the slightest; it's a legit question.

[white_wolf]

58. I wouldn't blame her one bit if she was done with politics.

I supported Sanders and still maintain that he would have defeated Trump, but Clinton has dedicated her life to public service and I think she was probably robbed in the general election. If she wants to be done then that's fine, but her supporters shouldn't attack Sanders while he's still working for us. Beyond that, I notice none of her supporters are upset with her for attacking President Obama and Vice-President Biden in her book. Yet when Bernie offers criticism of Obama he's accused of trying to destory the party.

[murielm99]

85. Hillary is not in the government any more.

If Bernie wants to get things done, he needs to get back to Washington. He needs to end his book tour. Congress is in session now.

[saidsimplesimon]

46. thank you Colbert and Sen. Sanders

Hope is all we have.

[Equinox Moon]

48. Sounds good to me.

[stevenleser]

50. Bernie has played a deliberately divisive role since his entry into politics

It's decades too late for him to play the uniter

[justhanginon]

60. Amen!

[berni_mccoy]

95. Move on bud.

[LiberalLovinLug]

54. I too wish Hillary would move on and join the fight

I'd love to see her do what Obama is doing occasionally, when important moments happen. He responds as a real President should. I'd love to see, or read, Hillary respond the same way to things like the GOP's disastrous health care bill debacle. Or the natural disaster in the southern gulf states.

And also to have her on stage and supporting the new generation of Dems like Harris, Gabbord, Schiff, Newsom. I think she has more popularity than maybe she thinks as many are now regretting their votes. And if she proved that right by acting and sounding Presidential it would be a great "you could have had this" moment(s).

But I also realize that this is taken from comments in her book, which naturally is about the past and 2016, and I applaud her honesty. But really now is the time to show Americans what they missed. She doesn't want to come off as a perpetual whiner.

[disillusioned73]

56. K&R..

[berni_mccoy]

59. Bernie IS THE Heart and Soul of the Party! He truly embodies the spirit of doing what matters.

GO BERNIE!

[NanceGreggs]

87. He's the heart and soul of a party ...

... he refuses to be a member of?

Bernie is the embodiment of "do as I say, not as I do". He attacks the Democratic Party relentlessly, but we're supposed to look to him as the "body and soul" of the party he's attacking?

Yeah, right.

[berni_mccoy]

97. Like it or not, the PARTY has adopted HIS platform

And many progressives like him. Bernie as shown leadership that has the power to move people to the left, which is far more than many people IN the party have done.

[NanceGreggs]

106. Well his "platform" seems to be ...

... attacking Democrats, calling the Party "a failure", etc.

It amazes me no end that some people think the Democratic Party should be led by someone who refuses to BE a Democrat.

There's also the fact that to hear Bernie tell the tale, no one ever championed things like single-payer, a raise in the minimum wage, affordable college, etc., before he came along.

[berni_mccoy]

107. Hyperbole much?

"ATTACKING DEMOCRATS" ohmergerd!!!1!1!...

When are people going to learn that criticizing policy positions is not attacking members of a party. You should know better Nance, but it seems like you have an axe to grind.

When has Bernie ever focused on ATTACKING democrats vs. policy. NEVER. And go ahead and cite them..., you'll just be serving Putin and promoting RW talking points.

[Madam Mossfern]

62. And so a unity thread

devolves once again on DU.

[KTM]

70. The trick is

You hafta skip the first 30 or 40 posts on any threads that have "Bernie" in the title, thats ususally just a few people with a victim complex and an axe to grind attempting to derail the thread, and the poor souls who tirelessly try to pin that jellyfish to the wall.

They WANT to turn every thread into a pie fight, its like oxygen.

[The Wizard]

79. I just put two on full ignore

I know a troll when I see one.

[murielm99]

81. Hillary is out of politics.

She has every right to write a book about what happened.

She needs to join him? How about he joins the Democratic Party, instead of dividing and criticizing it?

He was there to promote his book and do damage control over her valid criticisms of him and his supporters.

This is about a current event, and is not refighting the primaries. Her book, and his are both current events.

I heard his remarks about how it is "silly" to talk about 2016. There is nothing silly about what happened. Bernie and his supporters, the Russians, Comey, the media, all need to be discussed so we can win in 2018 and 2020. It would be silly not to talk about those things.

The Senate is in session. Go home and do your job, Bernie.

[GoCubsGo]

84. Thank you! Well said!

[Lazy Daisy]

90. He is still very well received

Standing ovation when he came on. Goes to show the policies he's working for are still policies we want. Some people will never understand it's not him it's his message. Most people who supported Bernie did so because of his message, and that energy is transferable to others who will fight to get those policies enacted.

[chwaliszewski]

91. +27

[BainsBane]

100. I wish he would have taken that position months ago

rather than complaining about the primary and attacking Clinton, the party, and its voters.
If he had, my view of him now would be considerably higher.
I know he and his supporters don't care what people like me think, and as long as they don't expect us to vote for or otherwise support them, that's fine.

[Sunlei]

102. They could meet-up on some interviews this weekend. Give Hillary a call Bernie.

Shes done some fabulous interviews about her new book. It would be easy for you both to meet-up for a short interview as a team.

[nini]

108. Why would he need her if she is a corporate sellout?

If she is so evil why would he want her involved at all?

I haven't forgotten the crap he did to her.

[nini]

119. "What crap did he do to her?"

Add to that what he's doing to the DEMOCRATIC party.

There's plenty of threads about all this from a year back. Read up.

[SaschaHM]

111. And if Bernie sticks to this "uniter" role, more power to him.

I'd love it if he said the same thing to Nina Turner, the head of Our Revolution, the next time she goes after Democrats. Him playing peacemaker and uniter after his post election "Democrats have failed the American People" tour is like Ted Cruz being an advocate for disaster assistance after Hurricane Harvey.