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I Really Admire This Pope (Original Post) JimGinPA Sep 2017 OP
Indeed. hlthe2b Sep 2017 #1
He, and the people who are touched by him, give me hope. pnwmom Sep 2017 #2
I too BigOleDummy Sep 2017 #3
FWIW the Catholic Church has an enormous amount of wealth TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #6
and their stance against birth control contributes to poverty Skittles Sep 2017 #10
Exactly and they seem unwilling to budge on that TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #12
the misognyny factor is super high Skittles Sep 2017 #13
Ouch! awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #4
Not me. Master_Monstruwacan Sep 2017 #5
Rec'd! And shared on Facebook. liberalnarb Sep 2017 #7
Well, he things gay marriage is from the devil Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #8
Not true.... alittlelark Sep 2017 #15
I'm not catholic what are the beatitudes LostinRed Sep 2017 #9
They're a group of teachings from Jesus' Sermon on the Mount Beartracks Sep 2017 #11
Other than the misogyny, homophobia, and long history of sexual abuse of minors Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #14
exactly!! niyad Sep 2017 #16
The RCC is a part of the GOP. yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2017 #17

BigOleDummy

(2,270 posts)
3. I too
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 05:27 PM
Sep 2017

...admire this Pope. I must add that I'm a lifelong (well, since I was 13 at least) atheist. If more "christians" believed like he seems to believe and ACTS on those beliefs like he seems to do ......... well, it wouldn't make me a believer but I would sure have to rethink my apathy to church goers. This man walks the walk and THAT is admirable in any person regardless of belief system. Contrast Pope Francis with joel osteen and his ilk!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,165 posts)
6. FWIW the Catholic Church has an enormous amount of wealth
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 05:48 PM
Sep 2017

that they do not spread around. But I agree, I'll take this pope over crooks like Osteen, Robertson and Bakker any day.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,165 posts)
12. Exactly and they seem unwilling to budge on that
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 07:50 PM
Sep 2017

That being said, the anti-contraception hurts the Latino population the most, but I don't know if they would be willing to use contraceptives even if the pope approved. The machismo factor is high.

 
5. Not me.
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 05:47 PM
Sep 2017

He pushes fairytales when what is needed is real quantifiable help. He pushes prayer when he knows, as nearly everyone else does, that it doesn't do a thing. The world no longer needs popes, priests, faith healers, imams, rabbis, or any other religious "leader". Yeah, he's a nice guy, but there ain't no Jesus coming to save anyone from their "sins." Use the enormous wealth of the RC Church to feed, clothe, and medically tend the poor and needy. Until I see that, Francis is no better than Joel Osteen. I'll begin to admire him when he outlaws the passing of the collection plate at mass.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,911 posts)
8. Well, he things gay marriage is from the devil
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 05:55 PM
Sep 2017

and is ruining the family.

Plus his stand on other LGBTQ issues along with his stance on anti-choice and other issues impacting women, and he can go take a flying leap.

But to each their own, I guess.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
15. Not true....
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 10:23 AM
Sep 2017
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/08/europe/vatican-pope-family/index.html

(CNN)Pope Francis put his shoulder to the doors of the Catholic Church and shoved them open a little wider Friday, calling for the church to be more tolerant in practice while not changing any official doctrines.
He urged priests around the world to be more accepting of gays and lesbians, divorced Catholics and other people living in what the church considers "irregular" situations.
"A pastor cannot feel that it is enough simply to apply moral laws ... as if they were stones to throw at people's lives," Francis writes in a sweeping paper outlining his stance on family matters.

He urges more common sense and less unthinking following of rules.
"By thinking that everything is black and white, we sometimes close off the way of grace and growth," he writes.

http://irishcatholic.ie/article/same-sex-marriage-debate-5

He reiterates what he said after World Youth Day in July 2013: “If a homosexual person is of good will and is in search of God, I am no one to judge… it is not right to interfere spiritually in the life of a person.”

Pope Francis goes on to say: “Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person? We must always consider the person. Here we enter into the mystery of the human being. In life, God accompanies persons, and we must accompany them, starting from their situation. It is necessary to accompany them with mercy.”

Pope Francis also responds to those who criticise him for not being more outspoken on issues such as same-sex marriage. He says these matters have to be spoken about in a context, and while the Church’s teaching is well known, the context is less so. That context is what he calls “the first proclamation”, which is “the heart of the message of Jesus Christ”. It is the Good News of the saving love of God, without which “moral and religious imperatives” will make little sense.

At the same time, Pope Francis has not spoken only of God’s merciful love. He has also spoken of the demands that God’s love places upon all of us. One area of particular concern is the urgent need to protect the family, which he sees as central to how the Holy Spirit flows in to the world.

Beartracks

(12,806 posts)
11. They're a group of teachings from Jesus' Sermon on the Mount
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 06:35 PM
Sep 2017

They're a group of teachings from Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, like, "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatitudes

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Voltaire2

(12,994 posts)
14. Other than the misogyny, homophobia, and long history of sexual abuse of minors
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 06:57 AM
Sep 2017

the RCC is a fine institution and the pope represents it well.

Oh and clearly one can be a Christian and do all those things he says you can't do. Nor is the church going to start denying communion to politicians who support intolerance as it has done to politicians who support abortion rights. So even within his church this statement is not going to have much effect.

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