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PoorMonger

(844 posts)
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 06:58 PM Sep 2017

"Pete Carroll Knows What It Is To Be Black In America"

No he fucking doesn't Joe Buck. He never could.

Heard this bullshit watching the Seahawks game earlier. They were discussing the Bennett harassment and Buck dropped this stinky turd of a statement in praise of Seattle's coach... simply because he has sympathy for his team's players.

But no white guy will ever know what it means to be black in America. Just as I don't as a German / Dutch / Mexican / Korean who presents as 'white enough' in America.

This is so much of what BLM is about to me as an ally of equal rights. People assume that just having surface sympathy for a cause means they totally 'get it' when they can never experience it for themselves. It's surely a step in sharing sympathy - but thinking you grasp the whole of an issue when you don't also leads people to check out of the fight for equal rights because they imagine they are on the right side already because they aren't actively an asshole.

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"Pete Carroll Knows What It Is To Be Black In America" (Original Post) PoorMonger Sep 2017 OP
I've always thought that he is a douchebag. CentralMass Sep 2017 #1
is that a racial category? Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #4
Pete is a pampered blowhard ChubbyStar Sep 2017 #2
When he was coaching at USC he did a lot of work with the gangs in South Central nini Sep 2017 #3
Those Are Good Articles PoorMonger Sep 2017 #6
Well, Buck is an annoying mofo LOL nini Sep 2017 #7
Us Seahawks fans refer to Buck and Aikmen as Beevis and Butthead Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2017 #5
Pete Carroll has silently worked with at risk Black kids IN THEIR COMMUNITIES all his adult life. Blue_true Sep 2017 #8
Gave Credit Above PoorMonger Sep 2017 #9
Joe Buck Is Yet Another Example Of Talent Skipping A Generation JimGinPA Sep 2017 #10

nini

(16,672 posts)
3. When he was coaching at USC he did a lot of work with the gangs in South Central
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 07:24 PM
Sep 2017

I think he may get 'it' more than most coaches in the league but true..he's not a black man and could never know the challenges first hand.

Here's a couple articles about what did.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/20/sports/sp-streeter20

http://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/pete-carroll-thinks-his-foundation-which-turns-former-south-l-a-gangsters-into-community-leaders-could-reduce-crime-across-america/

PoorMonger

(844 posts)
6. Those Are Good Articles
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 07:45 PM
Sep 2017

Thanks for posting them. Maybe I was too quick to shit on Carroll for it - though really it was Buck's comment that made me so annoyed with the whole thing. I stand by the general point though, because I do think it's a problem with these supposed allies. But to read that he does get involved in the inner city community gets some love.

nini

(16,672 posts)
7. Well, Buck is an annoying mofo LOL
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 07:57 PM
Sep 2017

IF he had brought up what Carroll has done to try and help it would have maybe made some sense. On the surface it does not.

I remember when he was down here I was impressed with him and a friend of mine who is from that area said he was definitely sincere. As a UCLA fan it was not easy to cut him some slack haha

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. Pete Carroll has silently worked with at risk Black kids IN THEIR COMMUNITIES all his adult life.
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 08:26 PM
Sep 2017

No one seen to know that because he does not advertise it. I only found out after reading an account of what he does when a reporter was finally allowed to follow him for a month - it started out about football, but became much more. Buck seems to have a point, a White that get to know Black people on Black people's turf and terms CAN KNOW what it is like to be Black.

PoorMonger

(844 posts)
9. Gave Credit Above
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 09:19 PM
Sep 2017

When nini shared the articles about his real efforts. Though I said too I stand by the point I made in the OP. Given no context other than liking a good player on his own team it came across a lot worse than it should.

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