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mcar

(42,302 posts)
1. I await the criticism here
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 09:56 PM
Sep 2017

From those who expressed outrage that Hillary dared to criticize Bernie.......

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
2. How many years has Bernie been in Congress?
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 10:17 PM
Sep 2017

Around twenty-five, right? Doesn't that mean he has been inside the Beltway for a long, long time? And he couldn't get any endorsements from his colleagues?

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
7. I didn't realize until now that Sanders went to D.C.
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 11:25 PM
Sep 2017

TWO years before the Clintons! And he has the gall to accuse others of being establishment? What, has establishment suddenly changed to mean able to work with others to achieve one's goal?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. I didn't realize that LGBT groups could be characterized as being "establishment"...
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 09:23 AM
Sep 2017

... or bundled together in that "guilty-by-association" way of phrasing things. What reason would anyone have to talk about LGBT groups with that "inside the beltway" negative connotation? Why the resentment and belly-aching?

But, returning to the point of the OP... the double-standard is clear to see if anyone cares to look, and the to be HONEST about what they see.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
4. Do you suppose the media pundits
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 11:02 PM
Sep 2017

And other critics forgot about that? Or perhaps they never even read Bernie's book?

JHan

(10,173 posts)
6. it doesn't matter to them.
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 11:17 PM
Sep 2017

I'm part of the converted. I now understand it doesn't matter what she says or how she says it, it will be misconstrued, truncated, dissected, overblown. The usual fuckery.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
5. Yes, there's a gross double standard.
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 11:04 PM
Sep 2017

No surprises.

I was always amused by the claim that those groups who endorsed HRC were "establishment".

"Establishment": The word that became an albatross hung round the neck of the dem candidate ALL of 2016.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
11. Yes, now the Republicans are salivating at knocking the wind out of Planned parenthood...
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 11:31 PM
Sep 2017

to the detriment of women everywhere.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
13. Yes, the establishment
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 09:08 AM
Sep 2017

Who risk their lives providing healthcare to the poorest women in America, who face bomb threats and doctors being murdered.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
9. Lol
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 11:27 PM
Sep 2017

Establishment: able (and willing) to work with others to acheve one's goals (and change society for the better, bit by bit.)

JHan

(10,173 posts)
10. Yes, essentially..
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 11:29 PM
Sep 2017

I still can't get over it, it was mystifying then.. remains so now, ESPECIALLY now.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
16. Wow, I just saw this. Thanks for kicking it!
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 04:37 PM
Sep 2017

Yes, it is interesting that this thread is being ignored. Those are a bunch of nasty distortions in that book quote. Shows the inherent divisiveness.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
18. Yeah, it's not a plot against anyone for the base of the party to actually support
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 06:36 PM
Sep 2017

the Democrat who was running before he decided how to best promote his candidacy.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
19. and who worked for years establishing relationships
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 06:54 PM
Sep 2017

which Sanders had every opportunity to do, since he got to DC before Hillary.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
21. She literally worked on a personal level for years -- decades -- on establishing
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 08:45 PM
Sep 2017

relationships, all over the United States and all over the world. I still listen to her book, Hard Choices, on audio in the car, and it's just amazing how many people she touched and knew and how long it took to build that level of camaraderie.

It's obvious reading this excerpt from his book that there are carefully chosen buzzwords in his recollections, all of which support a divisive position to whip up some interest, so to speak, lol. And he has been in DC longer than Hillary, interesting! That would qualify as establishment, no doubt.


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