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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor US women, most dangerous ppl are not Muslims, immigrants, or refugees. It's their own husbands.
On Sunday, 27-year-old Meredith Hight invited a group of friends over to her house in Plano, Texas, to watch football and grill. A few months earlier, she had filed for divorce from her husband, and she was looking forward to new beginnings.
She was a cook, and a quite fine one, and she loved hosting friends and families, her mother, Debbie Lane, told Dallas-based WFAA. This was her first opportunity to do it after the divorce, and he didnt take it well. Lane said he killed her daughter when he opened fire on the party.
Plano police were called to the house around 8 p.m. local time after reports of gunshots. When they arrived, they found seven people fatally shot and two others injured. One person died later in the hospital. Hights estranged husband, Spencer Hight, 32, was killed by an officer at the scene, bringing the death toll to nine. All the victims were in their mid-20s to early 30s.
The Plano incident ranks as the deadliest mass shooting of the year, matched only by another domestic violence shooting that occurred over the Memorial Day weekend. Neither crime received sustained media attention, despite the death tolls.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/2-deadliest-mass-shootings-common-183556136.html
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)So, yes, Muslims, immigrants, and refugees are not a threat. I get that. I agree.
But the other part, husbands are the most dangerous person to a woman, How did we get here?
Nine people died in this incident.
Was the shooter a polygamist married to nine people? I assume some of the victims were male, so a gay polygamist?
Assuming the more likely scenario that the shooter was married to only one of the victims, what can we say of the other eight victims regarding the most dangerous person in their lives?
Duppers
(28,117 posts)The anger of the husband toward his ex-wife caused him to explode at all those who considered her a friend. They "sided" with her or that's the way he interrupted the situation.
Happens that men will also kill an ex-wife's family.
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)Were murdered by their spouses or boyfriends....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/07/20/most-female-homicide-victims-are-killed-by-husbands-or-other-intimate-partners-new-report-shows/
Warpy
(111,141 posts)and they don't give a damn who else gets in the way, even killing their own children.
Here's another article for you take in. You might learn something about our lives: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/most-murders-of-american-women-involve-domestic-violence_us_5971fcf6e4b09e5f6cceba87
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)Then, he immediately tried to do so by chasing me (I was driving away to escape) with his car and trying to crash into my car at speeds of over 60 mph.
After months of him stalking and terrorizing me, I was finally able to have him arrested and to take him to court and divorce him.
He'd verbally and physically abused me in the past but he went crazy with rage when I actually left.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)Or about your life, or about whether or not men are monsters.
It is about faulty logic and confirmation bias.
Nine people died at the hands of a deranged asshole, but the only victim you care about, the only one that draws your attention, was the spouse.
That's pretty messed up.
DLevine
(1,788 posts)instead of as a free human being who had a right to live her own life.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)The OP says that that the greatest danger to a woman is her husband.
Only one of the people there was married to the gunman. The rest were not his wives, they still died, but not at the hands of their respective husbands.
If one were to judge based on this example, one could say there's an eight in nine chance that the person who will kill you is not your husband.
Domestic violence is a real problem.
Faulty logic does not help.
Lars39
(26,106 posts)"What The 2 Deadliest Mass Shootings This Year Have In Common".
DLevine
(1,788 posts)or boyfriend. As for the other victims in this case, they would be alive today if not for a man who wanted ultimate control over a woman he considered his possession, that is, to take her life.
Warpy
(111,141 posts)starting with the first controlling asshole they dated in high school.
You might not realize it, but we all have to kiss a lot of frogs before we find a prince and there are a hell of a lot of frogs out there.
Read. If you won't listen to women, maybe you can read. I know you don't want to believe it, but there's a lot of misery out there behind those tidy suburban doors. The statistics are appalling. And sometimes men are the ones being abused.
And no, it's not about me. It's about friends, family, patients, colleagues---women.
kcr
(15,314 posts)that the shooter isn't married to all the victims?
BainsBane
(53,012 posts)than anyone else.
That is according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, published Thursday, that takes a close look at the homicides of women.
More than 55 percent of the deaths were related to partner violence, and the vast majority of those were carried out by a male partner.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/21/538518569/cdc-half-of-all-female-murder-victims-are-killed-by-intimate-partners
Squinch
(50,911 posts)their husbands and boyfriends than from anyone else.
It's a well documented fact, but I guess we shouldn't talk about it, at the risk of upsetting to you.
we can do it
(12,169 posts)msongs
(67,360 posts)abuse. popular entertainment culture makes hundreds of millions for people doing so and kids buy it all
Lyricalinklines
(367 posts)Willie Pep
(841 posts)For women that is usually boyfriends or husbands. Domestic violence is so common that it does not get big headlines unless a celebrity is involved or it is a particularly odd case.
People seem to be attracted to news stories that are exotic hence terrorism getting so much coverage despite how rare it is and how unlikely Americans are to die from terrorism.
ck4829
(35,038 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)DLevine
(1,788 posts)Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)Some will act like they don't get it. That alone speaks volumes.
CousinIT
(9,218 posts)SaschaHM
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Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Kaleva
(36,248 posts)Interestingly, when a man decides to get a gun for the purpose of protecting a female loved one, he statistically becomes the biggest threat to her safety.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Tragic and unnecessary. If domestic violence was taken seriously, a lot of these murders could be avoided. Many of these abusive men should never be allowed to legally own firearms.