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Five Seniors died in Broward County Nursing home (Original Post) malaise Sep 2017 OP
Where were the generators? Botany Sep 2017 #1
In the kitchen according to the MH malaise Sep 2017 #5
The news reports say the Home had a generator mitch96 Sep 2017 #6
The hospital says no malaise Sep 2017 #9
But tRump officials have assured us SHRED Sep 2017 #2
They're the best at malaise Sep 2017 #10
Criminal investigation underway malaise Sep 2017 #3
Here s links, those poor people uppityperson Sep 2017 #4
Six now dead - several critical:cry: malaise Sep 2017 #8
My mother's nursing home had a big generator for the power went off. Demtexan Sep 2017 #7
It's a criminal investigation now malaise Sep 2017 #11
The thing was huge. Demtexan Sep 2017 #12
Yes you have to check everything because some of these homes are malaise Sep 2017 #14
I got really lucky with this nursing home. Demtexan Sep 2017 #21
Horrible! There is no excuse for not taking care of seniors. Glimmer of Hope Sep 2017 #13
So horrible!!! Dem_4_Life Sep 2017 #15
horrific. with a full out hospital directly across the street. spanone Sep 2017 #16
Looks like criminal negligence malaise Sep 2017 #17
sadly, the toll is now six dead. spanone Sep 2017 #19
Eight now malaise Sep 2017 #26
omg spanone Sep 2017 #27
Medicare fraud associated with this nursing home malaise Sep 2017 #32
wow....and rick scott is governor... spanone Sep 2017 #37
Ding ding malaise Sep 2017 #38
Not just a hospital across the street, THE hospital. FM123 Sep 2017 #35
"there is no excuse for them not getting the help they needed" mitch96 Sep 2017 #40
Pre-Air Conditioning in Florida buildings could handle that FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #18
Exactly right. n/t newblewtoo Sep 2017 #29
Absolutely correct malaise Sep 2017 #31
Looks like this group was involved in serious Medicare Fraud malaise Sep 2017 #34
Still 150 nursing homes without power superpatriotman Sep 2017 #20
I have to agree malaise Sep 2017 #22
Hmmm superpatriotman Sep 2017 #30
Hump : "ARE WE HAVING A GOOD TIME?!?" bullwinkle428 Sep 2017 #23
This needs to be pinned on tRump! Joe941 Sep 2017 #24
Eight dead now malaise Sep 2017 #25
The French in 2003 for one: newblewtoo Sep 2017 #33
Thanks for the link malaise Sep 2017 #36
My pleasure newblewtoo Sep 2017 #39
It's definitely a racket here superpatriotman Sep 2017 #41
How so? MousePlayingDaffodil Sep 2017 #28
This proves the tRump's incompetence in his Irma response. Joe941 Sep 2017 #42

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
6. The news reports say the Home had a generator
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 10:46 AM
Sep 2017

And it's uncertain of it's condition.. Preliminary info says it had power but no A/C.. The Hollywood Rehab Center, as its called is about 730 feet from the Hospitals ER.. I don't know if the Rehab center is affiliated with the hospital. It's not on the hospitals campus but across the street. It's uncertain if the hospital is in anyway responsible for this horrible tragedy.
Even so it does look bad.. Help so close but unavailable...

From their web site:
m
The Rehabilitation Center at Hollywood Hills is located directly across the street from Hollywood's Memorial Regional Hospital, so in Hollywood Hills nursing home
case of an emergency our patients have access to even more of the finest health care at all hours of the day and night.

Ahhh.. no

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
2. But tRump officials have assured us
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 10:21 AM
Sep 2017

Every press conference opens with how wonderful they are responding. "The best in history".

malaise

(268,980 posts)
3. Criminal investigation underway
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 10:38 AM
Sep 2017

It's in Hollywood -several other patients are critical

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article173019111.html
<snip>
Five Hollywood nursing home residents died Wednesday morning after they fell ill in a building left without air conditioning after Irma blasted South Florida, according to authorities at the scene.

Hollywood Fire Rescue evacuated residents from The Rehabilitation Center at Hollywood Hills, 1200 N 35th Ave., after some residents awoke sick. Like many places in South Florida, the nursing home has been without power since being blasted by tropical storm winds with hurricane gusts on the edge of Hurricane Irma.

Tuesday’s low temperature in Hollywood, according to the National Weather Service, was 79 degrees. Kitchen worker Jean Lindor said the center had power via a generator to cook but no air conditioning.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article173019111.html#storylink=cpy

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
4. Here s links, those poor people
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 10:42 AM
Sep 2017
http://wsvn.com/news/local/1-dead-30-evacuated-at-hollywood-nursing-home/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41258307
Police evacuated 115 residents on Wednesday from the facility, whose air conditioning was cut by the storm.
Broward County Mayor Barbara Sharief said three were found dead at the Hollywood Hills nursing home. Two others died after reaching hospital.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
12. The thing was huge.
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:07 PM
Sep 2017

Every month it was tested.

It was for the whole home.

I made sure of this before I put my mother there.

I signed a paper allowing her to be moved to

another nursing home in case of hurricanes.

Those poor people.

malaise

(268,980 posts)
14. Yes you have to check everything because some of these homes are
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:06 PM
Sep 2017

not safe for seniors. This is a private nursing home not affiliated with the hospital next door.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
21. I got really lucky with this nursing home.
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:43 PM
Sep 2017

It was a really good one.

My mother loved it there.

She had friends and went places on monthly trips.

Not all homes are like that.

No excuse for what happened.

Next to hospital even.

Dem_4_Life

(1,765 posts)
15. So horrible!!!
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:18 PM
Sep 2017

There is NO excuse for this treatment of the elderly. They are like children and animals and helpless and need adult guidance. Being so close to the hospital there are no excuses.

malaise

(268,980 posts)
26. Eight now
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 05:07 PM
Sep 2017

They're evacuating another nursing home in North Miami beach. I have no doubt that they're trying to avoid a similar situation.

malaise

(268,980 posts)
32. Medicare fraud associated with this nursing home
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 05:38 PM
Sep 2017

The former owner was sent to prison for 25 years - new owner also charged with Medicare fraud

Larkin Community hospital connections

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article132038739.html

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article173059891.html
Nursing home where 8 died in sweltering heat had poor record with state regulators

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article173059891.html#storylink=cpy

spanone

(135,831 posts)
37. wow....and rick scott is governor...
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 05:42 PM
Sep 2017

the KING of medicare fraud

In 1997, the company was part of a fraud investigation initiated by a number of governmental departments in the United States. Later that year, Rick Scott resigned as chairman. He later became the 45th and current Governor of Florida. The case was settled in 2002 at a reported cost of $2 billion to HCA. This made it the largest fraud settlement in US history.

On March 19, 1997, investigators from the FBI, the Internal Revenue Service and the Department of Health and Human Services served search warrants at Columbia/HCA facilities in El Paso and on dozens of doctors with suspected ties to the company.[9] Following the raids, the Columbia/HCA board of directors forced Rick Scott to resign as chairman and CEO.[10] He was paid a settlement of $9.88 million and left with 10 million shares of stock worth over $350 million, mostly from his initial investment.[11][12] In 1999, Columbia/HCA changed its name back to HCA, Inc. HCA also admitted fraudulently billing Medicare and other health programs by inflating the seriousness of diagnoses and to giving doctors partnerships in company hospitals as a kickback for the doctors referring patients to HCA. They filed false cost reports, fraudulently billing Medicare for home health care workers, and paid kickbacks in the sale of home health agencies and to doctors to refer patients. In addition, they gave doctors "loans" never intended to be repaid, free rent, free office furniture, and free drugs from hospital pharmacies.[13][14]

After Scott stepped down, Frist Jr. returned as chairman and CEO. He called on longtime friend and colleague Jack O. Bovender, Jr. to help him turn the company around. Frist and Bovender, who became CEO in 2001, pulled off what Fortune magazine called a remarkable corporate rescue.[15] In settlements reached in 2000 and 2002, Columbia/HCA pleaded guilty to 14 felonies. They admitted systematically overcharging the government by claiming marketing costs as reimbursable, striking illegal deals with home care agencies, and filing false data about use of hospital space.

In late 2002, HCA agreed to pay the U.S. government $631 million, plus interest, and pay $17.5 million to state Medicaid agencies, in addition to $250 million paid up to that point to resolve outstanding Medicare expense claims.[16] In all, civil lawsuits cost HCA more than $2 billion to settle, by far the largest fraud settlement in US history.[17] The name subsequently reverted to "Hospital Corporation of America." HCA abandoned the use of its name in its home market and instead promotes its Nashville hospitals under the TriStar brand.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospital_Corporation_of_America

FM123

(10,053 posts)
35. Not just a hospital across the street, THE hospital.
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 05:39 PM
Sep 2017

Memorial Regional Hospital is our big main hospital that services most of Broward County, there is no excuse for them not getting the help they needed. I am so angry and so sad I just want to scream!!!! So many seniors here in South Florida, in retirement condos and nursing home and where the hell is Fl Power and Light???

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
40. "there is no excuse for them not getting the help they needed"
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:32 PM
Sep 2017

I can feel your pain and if the hospital has no connection with this nursing home, how are they suppose to know?? Across the street or across town how do you know??
m

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
18. Pre-Air Conditioning in Florida buildings could handle that
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:26 PM
Sep 2017

Large windows that opened completely or opened from top and bottom, wide double doors, high ceilings, ceiling fans, built for cross ventilation, wide covered porches to sit on.

Modern buildings in Florida are now built with low ceilings, sealed windows, no airflow. They are basically unlivable deathtraps without energy hungry Air Conditioning running continuously.

When I built my house, I borrowed designs from the previous century and now hardly use the A/C.


superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
20. Still 150 nursing homes without power
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:43 PM
Sep 2017
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-sb-nursing-home-rules-20170913-story.html

The way we treat the most vulnerable, the sick and the aged in this country is beyond deplorable. It is sick and needs to be fixed.

malaise

(268,980 posts)
22. I have to agree
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:26 PM
Sep 2017

and it's not just the US Don't need treatment for mental issues in the Caribbean either

malaise

(268,980 posts)
25. Eight dead now
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 05:01 PM
Sep 2017

several others are critical - this is for too sad for their families.

Good effin grief who does this to senior citizens?

newblewtoo

(667 posts)
33. The French in 2003 for one:
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 05:39 PM
Sep 2017

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/aug/29/france


I am greatly saddened by this, maddened that it might have been caused by negligence or human error. The same situation can occur in cold climates when power goes out during severe weather.

The point is to learn how to prevent this in the future as the French have done:

http://www.france24.com/en/20150701-france-paris-heat-wave-alert-deadly-2003-summer-guidelines

Nursing homes are sad enough places without this additional stressor on all involved. I have had considerable experience (more than I ever wanted) getting elders placed in homes. Sometimes it can almost seem like winning the lottery. It should not be this way but it is. Warehouses for seniors. It sucks. Bigly.

newblewtoo

(667 posts)
39. My pleasure
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:03 PM
Sep 2017

Elder care is a very sore subject with me. I get a little shaky just thinking about some of the shady, greedy operators that there are out there. And skilled care? That is a whole other subject. CNA's are not infrequenlty injured caring for the patients while often making the most meger of wages with no insurance coverage. Yeah, it is quite the racket in many state, little or no training or regulation, I could go on and on.

But this is not the thread for that. And I don't need to get depressed tonight.

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
41. It's definitely a racket here
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 07:11 PM
Sep 2017

All smiles and sunshine from management until you sign over those Medicaid payments. Then it's neglect, indifference and sick perverted crime.

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