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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 12:48 PM Sep 2017

Dems Have Weaponized Trumps Mental Instability

from Politicus:


Democrats Have Weaponized Trump’s Mental Instability And Are Using It To Divide Republicans

Trump is dealing with Democrats because he is mad at Ryan and McConnell. Democrats in Congress have figured this out and are using Trump as a weapon to divide the Republican Party...

What is happening here is that Schumer and Pelosi have figured out Trump. Republicans don’t respect him. Congressional Republicans don’t fear him, so Trump out of spite is cozying up to Democrats to get the attention that he is being denied by his own party. Trump is unstable and driven by impulse. He has never forgiven McConnell and Ryan for not passing major legislation. More so, he is outraged by stories about the lack of respect and fear he inspires in Congressional Republicans.

Trump is ripping his own party apart because he would rather make deals and be loved that fail with Congressional Republicans who don’t respect him. Trump is looking out of himself. He doesn’t care if Republicans lose Congress as long as he wins reelection in 2020.

Democrats have figured out how to take Trump’s instability and use it as a weapon to divide and conquer the GOP. As Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell fade into the background, the growing powers in Congress are Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.


read more: http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/14/democrats-weaponized-trumps-mental-instability-divide-republicans.html






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Dems Have Weaponized Trumps Mental Instability (Original Post) bigtree Sep 2017 OP
This I can approve . . . Iliyah Sep 2017 #1
They can just keep stroking Cheeto FakeNoose Sep 2017 #18
"He doesnt care if Republicans lose Congress as long as he wins reelection in 2020. " DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #2
who says it strengthens Trump for re-election? bigtree Sep 2017 #3
As long as we can get some of what we want without helping him I'm for it. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #5
Dems will never vote for him and if he louis-t Sep 2017 #6
He is bad with numbers, too! Scarsdale Sep 2017 #10
I see your point but he.... machoneman Sep 2017 #19
Trump doesn't believe in anything besides Trump world wide wally Sep 2017 #4
True. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2017 #9
Given my understanding of the Mueller Investigation 90-percent Sep 2017 #7
+1 C Moon Sep 2017 #8
Timeline Duppers Sep 2017 #11
All Trump cares about is his own popularity. He's figured out that BamaRefugee Sep 2017 #12
Sounds good, but most power is short-lived. vkkv Sep 2017 #13
Good catch. Duppers Sep 2017 #14
Good! It's been weaponized against us, so it's about time. R B Garr Sep 2017 #15
The closer Muller mercuryblues Sep 2017 #16
Not so sure I'd refer to this as 'weaponizing' peggysue2 Sep 2017 #17
Do we really want to prop him up for 2020? LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #20

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
18. They can just keep stroking Cheeto
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 03:27 PM
Sep 2017

...until they push him right out of the White House.

If we're really lucky, they'll push him right into jail.



DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. "He doesnt care if Republicans lose Congress as long as he wins reelection in 2020. "
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 12:53 PM
Sep 2017

He doesn’t care if Republicans lose Congress as long as he wins reelection in 2020.


How does that inure to our benefit ?


I am all for extracting as many concessions out of him as possible but how does that inure to our benefit if it strengthens him for re-election ?


We need to figure this conundrum out, post haste.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
3. who says it strengthens Trump for re-election?
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 12:59 PM
Sep 2017

...especially when cooperating with Dems serves to divide his party support.

I don't see what you're looking at. Seems strained...

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. As long as we can get some of what we want without helping him I'm for it.
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 01:02 PM
Sep 2017

The only thing worse than seeing him elected would be seeing him re-elected. The thought is too awful to even contemplate.

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
6. Dems will never vote for him and if he
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 01:47 PM
Sep 2017

loses his base, he will never win re-election. He's just too stupid to realize that. He thinks he is way more popular than he actually is.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
10. He is bad with numbers, too!
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 02:35 PM
Sep 2017

Mis-calculates crowds at inaugurations and rallies. The Russia "thing" will take him down, long before 2020. Does he even know how utterly ridiculous he looks in that stupid hat?? Pathetic person that he is.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
19. I see your point but he....
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 03:28 PM
Sep 2017

can only get re-elected if his base votes for him again. He's now pissin' off a fair sized chunk of it now and more cooperation with we Democrats will only hurt his chances even more so.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
4. Trump doesn't believe in anything besides Trump
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 01:01 PM
Sep 2017

He can easily be flipped on anything if he thinks it will get him votes or love.... or attention.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
7. Given my understanding of the Mueller Investigation
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 01:50 PM
Sep 2017

by the 2020 Election, the entire Trump clan will have been in federal prison for two years for their sedition and treason and money laundering and all the unforced self incrimination we've already enjoyed. To paraphrase an Olbermann line about Palin: This family is a collection of idiots!

-90% Jimmy

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
11. Timeline
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 02:51 PM
Sep 2017

There are so many crimes that it will probably take more than two years of prosecutions and appeals to get TRump and all of his mafia minions in prison.

Popcorn vendors will rack up.

But, yep, there's little doubt that this asshole will not be in any position to run another campaign. And I do hope he and Jared lose everything financially with no hope of recovery.

If Rump keeps alienating Republican leadership as he is, they may even be tempted to vote for impeachment. But probably not.


And yep, indeed, "this family is a collection of idiots!" As many have said here before, I'm worried about this country - can we, as a whole, regain any respect for reason, knowledge, and intelligence?



BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
12. All Trump cares about is his own popularity. He's figured out that
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 02:56 PM
Sep 2017

instead of getting just 35% approval by being a blowhard asshole, he can probably get over 50% approval by appearing to be a caring and compassionate blowhard asshole.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
13. Sounds good, but most power is short-lived.
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 02:59 PM
Sep 2017

Whoever wrote this needs to proof-read better!

""
Trump is ripping his own party apart because he would rather make deals and be loved that fail with Congressional Republicans who don’t respect him.""

Huh ??

Should read "" Trump is ripping his own party apart because he would rather make deals and be loved THAN fail with Congressional Republicans who don’t respect him.""

Yes ??

R B Garr

(16,953 posts)
15. Good! It's been weaponized against us, so it's about time.
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 03:09 PM
Sep 2017

I love Schumer's knowing smirk there in that last picture.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
16. The closer Muller
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 03:13 PM
Sep 2017

gets to trump in his investigation the closer trump gets to Dems. The blowback on this is going to be fabulous. trump pissing of the Republiklans by schmoozing the Dems, when that impeachment votes comes (if it ever does) he will have no support in either party. I say this because the republicans have to initiate impeachment or all hell will break loose with his cult members who think everything trump does, including treason is not a bad thing.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
17. Not so sure I'd refer to this as 'weaponizing'
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 03:16 PM
Sep 2017

But as Mineral Man cited in another thread, this is an example of first-class politicking, where Pelosi and Schumer have a very bad hand but are playing for every advantage. Yes, they are working Trump's pathetic instinct for approval and his anger with McConnell and Ryan for denying him wins. But they're also protecting people in the process: denying the GOP the dismantlement of the ACA (for now at least) and pushing for the protection of 800,000 Dreamers. Without conceding on the stupidly wasteful Wall.

This is no small thing, something we and Democratic congress members should quietly celebrate. And then work our asses off for 2018 & 2020.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
20. Do we really want to prop him up for 2020?
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 04:37 PM
Sep 2017



I've said it before and I'll say it again, IF Trump was smart, luckily he is not, he'd do something radical like back Bernie Sanders Medicare for All bill. Sure he'd lose the more radical right voter, but he has a whole slew of voters that don't know shit about politics, and only voted for him because he was so racist, or sexist, or was a big TV star, or just plain went against the grain and "tells it like it is", or some combination....who would blindly follow him no matter what he does because he will tell them that its the most best thing in the world. He'd get a great redemption arch from the MSM for that and would get a lot of votes from all persuasions.

Am I forgetting about the Russian probe? No, but maybe I'm being overly cautious but I don't' think we can count on it 100%. I was one on here that warned that Trump may win just before Nov. 8th and was called a 'concern troll'. We must be prepared for a finding that, while unethical, and perhaps even with circumstantial evidence, Mueller may not have direct proof that Trump himself colluded to corrupt the election process. And IF that is the conclusion, you know that the GOP and Trumpsters will be trumpeting loud and proud about how this vindicates Trump for ALL of his deed and actions as a big bad liberal conspiracy.
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