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Overwhelmed, watching her on Rachel Maddow's show tonight...
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Sparkly
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LiberalLoner
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Grassy Knoll
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BigmanPigman
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stevepal
(109 posts)If all these people who are sad about this now had been even remotely interested in doing something about the use of totally unverifiable and clearly often rigged or maliciously programmed voting machines in most places in the country, if these people here on DU had been even one-onehundredth as interested in preserving our democracy from what was clearly happening to it because of the voting machines, we might have gotten some laws or inspired some influential politician or public figure to read about the studies that have been done and to start a movement to do something about it. Voter suppression and gerrymandering and other such dodges and tricks are also highly undemocratic of course, but the voting machines could be fixed very quickly if we had the will to do it.
Instead, what do we get from our supposedly democracy-loving reps? SILENCE. TOTAL SILENCE. What does this say about our so-called democracy (or what used to be our democracy)?
I supported Bernie but when HRC "won" the primaries, I supported her wholeheartedly. In fact, I began to think that she could have been one of our great presidents. Why so? First of all, she was willing to change her platform to fit what the electorate was looking for and what it is still looking for. Her ideas about achieving her platform objectives were very good ones too, maybe better than Bernie's because they were maybe more practical. FDR it may be remembered was not an all-out liberal when he was first elected. He became what he became because he was practical, interested in getting things done. He tried all kinds of things and kept the things that worked. HRC seemed to be potentially of that same mold.
I'm hopeful above all that we can somehow rescue our democracy or get it back. We definitely don't have a democracy now. If the Trump fiasco shows anything it shows that when you have an election that is rigged as we had in our last election, the president you end up with can be a nightmare.
If we don't get our act together and restore our democracy, the next election if we are actually able to have one could be even worse. It would be hard to imagine a worse president than the one we have, but when elections are decided in black boxes or by people in dark rooms even in other countries, the outcomes will always be the worst imaginable.
BigmanPigman
(54,969 posts)and applied to future elections instead of everyone saying, "It is over, accept the loss, move on, what good does bringing this up do, let it rest, no other former presidential candidates complained," etc. Since the 1988 election the GOP has only won one fairly (Bush 2004). We must get rid of Kobach too. The Dems had better do something constructive whenever the ball is in their court or this will continue to happen!
LisaM
(29,590 posts)They never shut up and go away. Nor should we.
BigmanPigman
(54,969 posts)they can't let it go. 45 still brings it up every chance he gets and when it isn't even appropriate like when he meets with world leaders...he is so embarrassing. We wouldn't have Kobach leading a voter fraud campaign if it weren't for 45's enormous yet fragile ego.
FakeNoose
(41,134 posts)That's why they're always looking for ways to game the system.
It has been that way since the Reagan years, and it's never going to stop.
Hillary would have been an awesome President! Instead we have Cheeto and the nut family.
LisaM
(29,590 posts)But a lot of people didn't have an appetite for the battle.
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lastlib
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I
Hillary!
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LAS14
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calimary
(89,660 posts)As usual, she was magnificent, classy, brilliant, and so damn presidential. She was robbed and cheated. And she won the popular vote.
iluvtennis
(21,487 posts)Well said, agree.
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we can do it
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(27,995 posts)#ImStillWithHer 
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burrowowl
(18,494 posts)I voted for her even though I voted for Sanders in the Primary. And I do respect her very much for her work involving health and women's issues.
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longime demolurker
(20 posts)I will write in Hillary's name in the next Presidential election.
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Tarheel_Dem
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(6,227 posts)mahina
(20,592 posts)Not silent, and grateful for her voice.
Rachel's show tonight was excellent. Aloha Madame Secretary, you are a light.
Silver Gaia
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MoonRiver
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pandr32
(14,148 posts)Since November. Still with Her...
barbtries
(31,271 posts)Loud, assertive and often: Hillary should be the president. she won the popular vote and very likely the election. Trump is an existential threat to the country and the world.
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louis c
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catbyte
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(18,124 posts)with our MSM, it's talking heads and ALL who voted for and sustain this POS calling himself potus. What a loss we have suffered in not having a sane rational POTUS like an HRC.
GentryDixon
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hamsterjill
(17,428 posts)Great respect for this woman, and I am going to continue to shout that from the rooftops.
Peace.
Nitram
(27,486 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)but I will not be silent. I do like the appreciation thread, though.
UtahLib
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eleny
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angrychair
(12,093 posts)Trump is a narcissistic, racist, bigoted and xenophobic fascist. We must all be united in our fight against his agenda because we will all be a victim of it.
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annabanana
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(18,759 posts)...the Rachael Maddow podcast and I fell asleep listening to it. First time I have felt safe in months. They do tend to show TRMS re runs on weekends I will record it then.
liberal N proud
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get the red out
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Initech
(108,416 posts)We were robbed by a group of thieves and cheaters. We need to fight back!
Permanut
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Skittles
(170,867 posts)TRUMP-HUMPERS CAN FUCK THEMSELVES
locks
(2,012 posts)too. Very clear the nation (and the world) would not be falling apart if she had been elected.
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radical noodle
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(21,973 posts)i'd still vote for her she deserves it
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lordsummerisle
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DemSoc
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(22,282 posts)Watching HRC being interviewed by Judy Woodruff on PBS News Hour and I'm on the verge of sobbing my head off.
How eloquent, what intellect, what polish. A so very smart EDUCATED woman of integrity and class.
Oh my dear God, what is this foul state of affairs that has been foisted upon us.
