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Trump and Democrats strike DACA deal. Yes? No? Sort of? Trumps world can be confusing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-and-democrats-strike-daca-deal-yes-no-sort-of-trumps-world-can-be-confusing/2017/09/14/ab6a40d4-9970-11e7-82e4-f1076f6d6152_story.html?utm_term=.64dbf8086ef8
On Wednesday night, in a Blue Room dinner at the White House with Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), the president reached a tentative agreement with the Democratic leaders: The young undocumented immigrants known as dreamers would be allowed to stay in the country in exchange for a border security package that does not include funding for Trumps wall...
At one point, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross asked, What exactly does the president get out of this deal? As Pelosi, the only woman at the table of 11, tried to make her point that the president gets the cooperation of the Democrats, which he will likely need on a host of issues the men in the room began talking over her and one another.
Do the women get to talk around here? Pelosi interjected, according to two people familiar with the exchange.
There was, at last, silence, and she was not interrupted again.
erinlough
(2,176 posts)I'm getting so sick of seeing tables full of white men.
mcar
(42,278 posts)Old, white, wealthy men. Gah.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)I posted something similar this AM when I read about the ALL BOYS CLUB again. Remember there were 13 white men chosen by McConnell to craft a healthcare bill for the entire country when women make up over 50% of the population. Whoever says that there is equality in this country has their head up their ass. If I ever hear a man anywhere (and yes DU...here too) dismiss or disqualify anyone based on gender, even in the most subtle and naive manner, I will call you out.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)How many times has that happened to us women. Too many.
I learned to keep talking - louder.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)who hasn't had that happen to her. I know I have.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)whathehell
(29,034 posts)Go on with your bad self, Nancy.
treestar
(82,383 posts)They expect to hold court: we are there to listen.
I remember it specifically in regards to a conversation about sports. I had something to say, but was carefully avoided when I tried. I don't think it was even intentional.
Hekate
(90,560 posts)As Michelle Obama says: Don't be fooled.
Get rid of Nancy and "go away," Hillary. Do I detect a pattern? Both women are sharp, effective, and just too successful, I'm afraid. Republican women in Congress such as Murkowski and Collins have already shown some independence in standing up to misogyny. Keep going,ladies!
Leith
(7,808 posts)I get interrupted a lot.
Maybe that's why I like message boards so much. I can get my entire thought out and if someone stops reading in middle of it, I'll never know.
Phoenix61
(16,993 posts)the right amount of irritation works amazingly well. I've heard it called a "teacher voice."
LuckyLib
(6,817 posts)"It's my turn to talk." They act like kindergarteners, they need to be addressed in that teachable moment in a firm, clear voice.
mercuryblues
(14,522 posts)People know I am serious when I lower my voice an octave and very seriously say something over their prattle. Sometimes standing up as if you are ready to walk out of the room while doing so is also needed. Read the room. This is one way to make sure you get credit for an idea.
treestar
(82,383 posts)an octave - now I wonder why that works ?
mercuryblues
(14,522 posts)But I use it to my advantage.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)No wonder they are scared of her.
Stinky The Clown
(67,761 posts)And Leader Pelosi is a badass among badasses.
I love how she does it with that grandmotherly demeanor.
question everything
(47,435 posts)that she was the only woman there and was thinking that something was very wrong.
brer cat
(24,524 posts)Thanks, mcar. K&R
JI7
(89,240 posts)all the fucking time.
JI7
(89,240 posts)protestors there ?
MLAA
(17,250 posts)I am hoping he won't be going back to Saudi Arabia because his traveling days will be over except the daily 45 min excursions around the 'yard' 😉
calimary
(81,110 posts)Nicely laundering everybody's nice money.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)You may speak when the adults are done.
Bayard
(22,008 posts)Why is it that women who stand their ground are known as bitches, when its just normal for men to be rude? I've had this happen all my life seems like.
So just call me a bitch...
whathehell
(29,034 posts)and you're not a 'bitch', you're a normal human expecting respect, but not getting it because you were born female.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)And those calling for her to be replaced are so obviously, glaringly clueless it's not funny.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)mcar
(42,278 posts)I'm truly curious.