No [US] citizen or anyone else should live in fear of this or any future president misusing the NDAA

[Luminous Animal]

From the ACLU's statement on the signing of the NDAA.

"“We are incredibly disappointed that President Obama signed this new law even though his administration had already claimed overly broad detention authority in court,” said Romero. “Any hope that the Obama administration would roll back the constitutional excesses of George Bush in the war on terror was extinguished today. Thankfully, we have three branches of government, and the final word belongs to the Supreme Court, which has yet to rule on the scope of detention authority. But Congress and the president also have a role to play in cleaning up the mess they have created because no American citizen or anyone else should live in fear of this or any future president misusing the NDAA’s detention authority.”"

http://ggdrafts.blogspot.com/2011/12/aclu-statement-on-obamas-signing-of.html

[sabrina 1]

1. On to the SC. The FFs sure were right when they said we would have to be forever vigilant

if we were to maintain our freedoms.

A very sad day for America.

[got root]

2. What is the Gov so afraid of?

[ProSense]

3. Well,

"this or any future president misusing the NDAA’s detention authority.”"

...this administration declared its intent not to misuse it, and future administrations are going to be subject to any interpretation by the courts and any changes made by Congress, such as the current bill supported by Feinstein and others.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=95933

[Luminous Animal]

4. Oh those silly ACLU people.

[bread_and_roses]

6. Right. Just who do they think they ARE, anyway?

after all, this administration "declared" it's intent "not to misuse it." What more could anyone POSSIBLY want?

[ProSense]

9. Hey

"Oh those silly ACLU people"

...the supported Citizens United, but then again, so do you.

[Luminous Animal]

12. Actually, I am deeply conflicted about Citizens United.

[orpupilofnature57]

5. We voted for repeal not reinforcement

[ProSense]

11. You

"We voted for repeal not reinforcement"

...voted for every Senator who sent this bill to the President. He did his part, and rejected the interpretation of existing law claimed by some. Maybe now everyone can stop pretending that a symbolic veto would have had any impact on legislation passed with more than 80 votes in the Senate.

[orpupilofnature57]

14. You got me , but they have him on Healthcare ,Tax , Defense ,Education

A symbol would bolster the weak knee of his own party and expose the misanthropes that obstruct him and US non stop.

[magical thyme]

15. what you call 'symbolic'

some call 'principled.'

you know, doing what is right as opposed to doing what is convenient. And for the record, I didn't vote for the senators that passed it. I vote against Maine's twins every chance I get.

[orpupilofnature57]

18. I'm ashamed of Schumer and Gillibrand ,and

have let them know thats not why I voted for them.

[sabrina 1]

7. I love having my freedom entrusted to one man or woman's good intentions.

Did those OWS protesters get released from the LA jail yet btw, and have they been charged? It's been weeks and the last time I called the City Council, they had 'no information' on the charges.

[Warren Stupidity]

17. It seems you didn't read the signing statement.

Obamas quarrel with this odious legislation is the restrictions it puts on the executive branch not the fact that it shreds the bill of rights. He doesn't think congress should have any say in rendering, dent ions without trial, assassinations etc.

[BeHereNow]

8. Ha-Ha-Ha! "the final word belongs to the Supreme Court"

Oh that makes me feel SOOOOOOO much better.
BHN

[bhikkhu]

10. "Cleaning up the mess" means ending the war

...as any broad detention authority there is comes from the AUMF, the original war authorization in 2001.

[sabrina 1]

13. It would mean ending the War on Terror.

We are at war everywhere. And we are in a permanent 'state of emergency' last time I looked at that, when it came up for review a few years ago. So, ending one of our wars on 'terror' won't restore any of our Constitutional Rights, and this bill only demonstrates that someone, whoever added these clauses, wants to make sure we don't forget how many freedoms we no longer have.

[no_hypocrisy]

16. "Thankfully, we have three branches of government, and the final word belongs to the Supreme Court"

Famous last words. Mr. Korematsu had similar illusions.

http://www.infoplease.com/us/supreme-court/cases/ar18.html

[Luminous Animal]

19. Future presidents, after detaining people forever w/o charge:

'What's the big deal? Even the liberal Obama signed the 2011 defense bill.'

@attackerman via twitter.

[woo me with science]

20. Occupy.

It has never been more important.

Reform the system. Get the damned money out of politics so we can elect someone who values the Constitution and represents the people.

This is deadly, deadly serious. We are losing our country.