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Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:01 PM

The Rude Pundit: An American in the UK National Health Service

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2017/09/an-american-in-uk-national-health.html

The Rude Pundit
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9/14/2017
An American in the UK National Health Service


It had been a stressful few weeks, with far more than the usual amount of fuckery and frantic frenzy, and I arrived in Liverpool last Friday on a total of about 4 hours of sleep in two days. Walking around the Liverpool One area shortly after dropping off my bags, heading towards the Tesco to get some supplies, I realized that I was sweating like Nicholas Cage on a meth bender and my heart was racing like, well, the same. I felt a tightness in my chest, short of breath, needing to sit down, and I thought, "Well, fuck, this would fuck up the next week or so." When your Dad dies of a heart attack at 46, you take that shit seriously.

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I've sped up the last part here, but, from walking into the clinic to leaving the ER of the hospital, it was a total of four hours. And there was not a single person I met who seemed angry or beleaguered or disgusted by the system they worked in. Every one of them was simply devoted to making sure I was ok. No profit motive. No forms to fill out. No card to check. No in-network or out-of-network. No phone calls to beg for approval. I didn't pay a dime. That's how you treat a guest.

I was blown away. Obviously, I know it can't always work so smoothly and efficiently (and that there are rocky times ahead for the NHS), but, holy shit, there was something so sane and humane about the entire process that I felt a revulsion towards what we're put through in the United States just to try to not die, the degradation of putting a price tag on our health.

If we actually lived up to the ideals that we supposedly have as Americans, we'd look out for each other by making sure that no one has to have one's worth measured against what one can afford.

Fucking pass single-payer. Or stop fucking pretending that we're a society and just admit that the USA is a Darwinian dystopia.

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babylonsister Sep 2017 OP
TheBlackAdder Sep 2017 #1
NeoGreen Sep 2017 #23
TheBlackAdder Sep 2017 #24
Delphinus Sep 2017 #2
smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #3
Leith Sep 2017 #4
jpak Sep 2017 #5
Duppers Sep 2017 #6
mgardener Sep 2017 #7
Duppers Sep 2017 #8
Rob H. Sep 2017 #9
LittleGirl Sep 2017 #10
Scarsdale Sep 2017 #21
LittleGirl Sep 2017 #22
LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #11
WoonTars Sep 2017 #12
TomSlick Sep 2017 #13
BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #14
KelleyKramer Sep 2017 #15
riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #16
IronLionZion Sep 2017 #17
Scurrilous Sep 2017 #18
Lordquinton Sep 2017 #19
dembotoz Sep 2017 #20

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:55 PM

1. My daughter used the NHS several times when in London for her Masters. Clean, friendly, fast, cheap.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 03:16 PM

23. My daughter just left today...

...for London to start her Masters.
Your simple note makes me feel a bit less worried.

Thanks
NG

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Response to NeoGreen (Reply #23)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 01:01 PM

24. Regardless of the several terrorist incidents, my daughter felt safer walking day/night than the US.

Police are everywhere and quite visible, and she says that when you go up to them, they ask, How may I help you!"

Of the several visits, her only cost was to pay for medicine twice, one for 5 pounds and one for 10 pounds.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 05:03 PM

2. Seems

like what a healthcare experience should be. No profits on people's health.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 05:13 PM

3. K&R

The way it should be. Why do we settle for shit?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 05:17 PM

4. Wow. Just Wow...

That's what we deserve here.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 05:21 PM

5. That was my experience in Canada

And their communist terror health care system which we are told is the suckiest.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 05:48 PM

6. In 1989 a physician drove to our flat!

When my hubs was an "overseas fellow/ visiting scholar" at Churchill College, Cambridge U., my 18mo son became very sick (fever, kept nothing in his stomach). We did not have a car. I called health services and explained his condition. Within 30 minutes a doctor was at my door! She then drove us (drove us in her own car!!) to Addenbrooke's Hospital. We spent the night and my son recovered. We were not charged for anything!! I was most amazed at all the caring people in that hospital. I heartedly second Rude's statement: "there was not a single person I met who seemed angry or beleaguered or disgusted by the system they worked in."

I did have a short form to fill in and sign which took less than a minute.


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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 05:51 PM

7. My daughter went to college in Canada , 12 years ago.

500.00 for full calender year, all the health care Dr. Visits and medication she needed.
We live near the Canadian border and lots of people go over the border for dental care and medication.
It is a crime that the heath care in this country is so expensive.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 05:51 PM

8. Huge K & R

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 05:58 PM

9. K&R! nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 05:59 PM

10. They really are afraid that the UK will adopt

our fucking nightmare healthcare system. Hubby is British and I have several British friends. They love their healthcare system even if it's not perfect.

Along with #45, they just can't understand our ways.

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Response to LittleGirl (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 02:48 PM

21. Liverpool is my place of birth.

I used the NHS and my extended family LOVES the NHS, escecially after hearing the stories about the US "system" EVERYONE in this country should be clamoring for a similar system. If France, Canada, Germany, Holland and even Cuba can do it, so can this country. The greedy politicians are all that stands in the way of passing a decent healthcare system.

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #21)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 02:57 PM

22. My husband

was furious when I explained the shit we put up with.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 06:07 PM

11. K & R nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 07:33 PM

12. Kick.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:42 PM

13. Similar report.

Some years ago, I traveled to Dublin carrying my wife's luggage when she was on a business trip. Half way across the Atlantic, it occurred to me that I had left a prescription at home.

As soon as we were checked into the hotel, I found a chemist to try to figure out if my doctor back in home could e-mail/fax my script and get it filed. The chemist suggested I go to the clinic next door and see if they could help.

I was skeptical but desperate. I went to the clinic - told the receptionist my problem and took a seat. One whole lot quicker than I would have seen my doctor at home, I was explaining my problem to the doctor. I told the doctor that I needed an anti-rejection drug for a recent cornea transplant. I knew the name of the drug and he could look in my eye and tell there had been a transplant. I walked out with an Irish script the local chemist could accept. The doctor's visit cost nothing - no fuss no muss.

Medicare for all would be OK but only as a bridge to a National Health system.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:49 PM

14. We've all been lied to for eons about this issue

In talking with Canadians and Brits over the years I've never met a one of them that would want our system. A Canadian Air Force officer I met years ago called our system barbaric, and that was AFTER the ACA passed.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 11:08 PM

15. We should demand to have national health care!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 11:46 PM

16. K&fuckingR. This Irish citizen is PISSED at this bickering. #saveACA #Medicareforall

 

Walk and chew gum at the same time.

So over this shit.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 02:14 PM

17. Europe had a very different WW2 experience than the US

which made many of them understand the need for universal healthcare to take care of their many wounded who were unable to pay while Americans were told to be suspicious of socialists.

NHS is not single payer. It's far more socialist than what Bernie and Conyers are proposing for us.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 02:26 PM

18. K&R

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 02:36 PM

19. Long past time

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 02:42 PM

20. Happy u r ok

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