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NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 09:48 PM Sep 2017

You Are Just Saying That Because You Hate Trump

It’s a phrase being used more and more frequently by Republicans these days in response to any criticism of Trump, any questioning of his policies, any negative statements about him whatsoever.

While it is a completely ludicrous response, it is perfectly understandable. Those who once – rightly or wrongly – put their faith in their party and its policies have been reduced to throwing out a childish retort in lieu of having to yet again try to spin straw into gold.

“You’re just saying that because you hate Trump” is the equivalent of “You’re rubber and I’m glue”, a schoolyard tactic meant to end all discussion when an ignorant child has run out of plausible arguments when caught trying to defend the indefensible.

I appreciate the untenable position Republicans now find themselves in. Engaging in endless damage control 24/7 is enough to kill any man’s soul. Having to bend over backwards, literally every minute of every day, in order to explain or reason away Trump’s inane statements, his declaration of policies that have no basis in reality, his ridiculous “tweets”, and the overwhelming evidence that he doesn’t understand a god-damned thing about the responsibilities of his office is enough to lead even the most ardent GOP-defender to throw his hands in the air and hide behind the “you just hate Trump” meme – in hopes that the bleedin’ obvious will somehow go away.

So it’s now just a matter of phoning it in – thus the use of the “You’re just saying that because you hate Trump” response. The Republicans showing up on news shows are apparently sick and tired of trying to make sense of their “pResident’s” nonsense, tired of polishing the turds that emanate from his mouth every day, tired of coming up with excuses for his obvious-to-all idiocy.

The fact is that people aren’t going after Trump because they hate him – they hate what he is, what he does, what he says, and what he stands for. They hate the fact that someone this ignorant, this clueless, this totally self-absorbed, lying asshole was somehow elected to the Oval Office.

What they hate is the idea that a complete dumbass is in a position to make decisions that affect not just our nation, but the world. They hate the fact that someone completely devoid not only of intelligence, but common sense, is using his office to be divisive, to incite violence, to distance us from our allies, to taunt our enemies (like North Korea), and to praise our Russian enemies while casting his own party members as unethical traitors if they speak up against his lunacy.

Does anyone actually hate Trump as a person? I’ve no doubt that many people do. But most of us don’t – because once you peel away the ego, the braggadocio, the ludicrous lies, the posturing, the ignorance, the stupidity, the “fire and fury” rhetoric, there’s really not enough of a person there to have any real feelings about.

While Republicans cower behind ”You’re just saying that because you hate Trump”, the truth of the matter becomes blatantly obvious: Republicans simply have nowhere else to go.

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You Are Just Saying That Because You Hate Trump (Original Post) NanceGreggs Sep 2017 OP
Brilliant piece! Lee Adama Sep 2017 #1
Good Stuff As Usual Grassy Knoll Sep 2017 #2
I *do* hate Trump, and so do a lot of other people. But the important thing The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #3
No doubt many people DO hate Trump. NanceGreggs Sep 2017 #5
I DO hate Trump gratuitous Sep 2017 #4
That was my point ... NanceGreggs Sep 2017 #7
What Is There to Like? Leith Sep 2017 #6
There is nothing there to "like'. NanceGreggs Sep 2017 #10
Hate for me is such a bland word... Xipe Totec Sep 2017 #8
They said that when Shrubbie was prez, too. Mariana Sep 2017 #9
When someone says that to me I respond Perseus Sep 2017 #11
I just ask them to tell me where I am wrong rpannier Sep 2017 #12
Republicans have ALWAYS been Trump. Before Trump, it just wasn't so obvious Volaris Sep 2017 #13
I hate Maggot AND I hate republicans MFM008 Sep 2017 #14
Take a number. calimary Sep 2017 #15
Excellent post! lunamagica Sep 2017 #16
Of course I hate Trump because he's Trump! If he were, say, Joe Biden, I'd love him! Now why IS WinkyDink Sep 2017 #17
"You're just saying that because you hate Obama". smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #18
Well that pretty much nails it. n/t susanna Sep 2017 #19
Great post Nance Gothmog Sep 2017 #20
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2017 #21
Yes, I hate the obscene worm... oppressedproletarian Sep 2017 #22
My hatred for republicans is so blinding it destroys my night vision. kairos12 Sep 2017 #23

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,607 posts)
3. I *do* hate Trump, and so do a lot of other people. But the important thing
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:01 PM
Sep 2017

is, why do we hate him? When you say you hate someone you're always saying you hate what they do and say, because that's a reflection of what they are. If I just saw a fat old orange guy with a weird combover, I wouldn't hate him. If a fat old orange guy with a weird combover starts spewing racist, sexist, vulgar crap as a candidate for president, I'd start hating that. They say, love the sinner; hate the sin. But when someone "sins" so knowingly, blatantly and unapologetically, how do you separate the sin and the sinner? I don't mind saying I hate Trump. He is "the ego, the braggadocio, the ludicrous lies, the posturing, the ignorance, the stupidity, the “fire and fury” rhetoric," and I hate that shit.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
5. No doubt many people DO hate Trump.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:10 PM
Sep 2017

That is their right - and I would be the last person on earth to question their reasons for doing so.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. I DO hate Trump
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:06 PM
Sep 2017

But my opposition to any particular thing he says or does is rooted in reality. For example, his stupid tweet this morning that implied England had dragged its feet when it could have apprehended whoever planted the subway bomb. The London authorities, who have much better things to do right this moment, had to stop and respond to that stupid, baseless assertion. Even administration officials had to interrupt whatever they were doing to try to explain or guess at what Trump meant.

So yeah, I hate Trump today for getting in the way of people with important things to do, but that's based in fact, not personal animosity.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
7. That was my point ...
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:20 PM
Sep 2017

... that the hatred is not aimed at the person, but at that person's lunacy.

The GOP are desperately trying to make this into something personal, as though people "hate Trump" simply because he represents a party we Democrats are at war with. So now they're trying to reduce his words/statements/policies to personal animus towards a "person" rather than his conduct.



Leith

(7,808 posts)
6. What Is There to Like?
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:15 PM
Sep 2017

No, really - that wasn't a rhetorical question. Name one thing likable about him or what he has ever done.

I find his type completely vile and revolting. He's a cross between Uncle Ernie and Scrooge.

But louder.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
10. There is nothing there to "like'.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:40 PM
Sep 2017

That's why the GOP are trying to change the discussion from "you don't like his policies" into "you don't like the man" - in hopes that the man's policies will be ignored.

Xipe Totec

(43,888 posts)
8. Hate for me is such a bland word...
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:22 PM
Sep 2017

It does not begin to describe my emotion.

But the question is what has he done to merit this?

Therein lies the sordid story.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
11. When someone says that to me I respond
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 11:00 PM
Sep 2017

You are correct, I do, and then I list all the reasons why and always with the same end phrase "if you really love your country and what happens to your future and that of your family, and you start paying attention, you will hate him too."

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
13. Republicans have ALWAYS been Trump. Before Trump, it just wasn't so obvious
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 11:45 PM
Sep 2017

That this is what they really are. They aren't mad cause trump has been stealing cookies from the jar. They're not even mad that they got caught. They're mad because we dared to SAY that's what happened.
How DARE we!

Whatever, MELT, you weak Snowflakes hahahaha!

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
17. Of course I hate Trump because he's Trump! If he were, say, Joe Biden, I'd love him! Now why IS
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 02:55 AM
Sep 2017

that?

See: DU since last summer.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. "You're just saying that because you hate Obama".
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 03:36 AM
Sep 2017

Or Hillary, or any other Democrat. See how that works against them? They are idiots.

22. Yes, I hate the obscene worm...
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 05:48 PM
Sep 2017

and I hate him (and his entire crew of criminals and cronies) all the more for making me hate him! "Hating" a human being is somewhat foreign to me and something I am not especially proud of---but if ever hate was called for and appropriate, surely it is now.

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