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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTexas church forbid Harvey-volunteer from helping victims because she's jewish.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/texas-church-blocked-volunteer-from-helping-hurricane-harvey-victims-because-she-is-a-jewish-lesbian/I thought they wanted to talk to me about further volunteer efforts, Hix said. I was so unprepared for the conversation that ensued.
In a post on her Facebook page, the 64-year-old combat veteran recalls how the pastor called her into his office to question why she said Shalom after her prayers. When she told him that she was Jewish, he asked her to leave and to not return to the church.
I asked So if I were a liar with an evil heart, and I told you what you want to hear, that I am a Christian, I would be allowed to continue to contribute to those less fortunate than I? I was told, Yes, Hix said.
Once she got home, Hix told the magazine she called the church to complain about the pastor and was invited back in. But when she arrived, she was confronted by the pastor again about rumors of her sexual orientation.
According to Hix, the pastor said that he cant let you represent our church, as being a Lesbian is a sin.
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If anybody asks you, in what situations lies are acceptable to a deeply religious Christian...
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)to "is it OK to lie to a church to save lives?"
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)dembotoz
(16,802 posts)I will still go cause my church is not like this
Comfort??? In just as some Dems are assholes so are some pastors
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Boom-boom.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)They really like promoting judgment of others, for anything, even characteristics you are born with. Disabled? God must hate you. Poor? God is punishing you.
It's a wonder these so-called called houses of God lift a finger to help anyone.
George II
(67,782 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,787 posts)mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)reimbursing churches for relief efforts..
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)Pastor Ron moved to Houston and founded Calvary Houston in 1991. What started as a small home fellowship, focused on contemporary worship and expositional teaching of the Bible, now serves thousands of people each week. The vision of Calvary Houston is to Worship the Lord, Win the Lost, Disciple the Saints, and Send the Equipped. He and his wife, Yani, have a blended family with three grown children, two adopted children together, and two grandchildren.
The ministry of Calvary Houston has expanded to include daily radio broadcasts of Pastor Rons unique, expositional style of teaching. These half-hour broadcasts known as Larger Than Life, are aired daily throughout the United States.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)It shows you how effective religion is at enforcing in-group / out-group boundaries. Many churches / temples / mosques are the exceptions, but the net effect is counter to the avowed goals of religion.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)I've held for many years that churches rob communities of healthy social energy that should go into general community efforts involving ALL members, religious or not. We should have more friendly open-to-all community centers and fewer churches, IMO.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)perdita9
(1,144 posts)...that they think they should be immune from criticism, even when they do reprehensible things.
This drove me crazy before I became an atheist. Our treasurer stole over $300,000 from the church and half of the members said what was important is that we all 'forgive' her. It was a close vote to even get the police involved in her crime.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)I'm not saying he screws goats, but you never know. He speculates about the woman's sexual orientation so we can speculate about his.
madashelltoo
(1,698 posts)Embrace this woman and apologize for the ignorance of this pastor and any other who acts this way. The ills of the world will never heal as long as some keep ripping the wounds open. How they always manage to go to homosexuality as the dominating sin when the Bible has lots of other abominations has always baffled me.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)and one of the reasons the R-party co-opted the Christian church years ago.
Consider the similar emotional dependencies:
1. Highly authoritative structures: God > Pastor > Dad & Mom > Ronald Reagan > Husband/wife > Boss at work, etc.. They can't live without that type structure.
2. Must have numerous "bad guys" to look down on and criticize: The poor, non-Christians, women, LGBT folks, foreigners, liberals, etc. This process allows them to look "better than" the other.
3. Clannish behavior: Excluding outsiders and even severely criticizing other denominations of Christianity (where I was raised as a Baptist, the Methodist and Presbyterians were all horribly astray, and Catholics were some sort of aliens).
4. Believing they have direct knowledge of their god: Saying they know their god wants this or that, does not want certain things, and telling others what that god wants them to do or not do, AND that certain people are rewarded with "blessings ($$$)" for compliant deeds.
That list can go on and on.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)also denying her help to those in need.
I don't know, but as a (lapsed, admittedly) Catholic I often wonder about other branches of Christianity and whether they teach The Sermon on the Mount.
catbyte
(34,376 posts)people. Everything they really get off on seems to come from the OT and Leviticus in particular, cherry picked as it is, then they skip right over the whole Sermon on the Mount, Jesus-said-love-your-enemies and help-the-poor and goes right to Revelations and back to Hellfire & Damnation. Ugh.
Of course, I got kicked out of Sunday School for asking if God made everything, then who made God & the teacher got frustrated when I didn't buy her "He was just always here" explanation. She very nicely suggested I'd have a better time elsewhere, haha.
Anne Lamott said it best: "You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people that you do."
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)Oddly enough, the authorities in the Jewish faith are now starting to question the authenticity of the Old Testament, based on their many years of archaeological research. As I understand it, they're essentially admitting it's mostly myth.
Sort of puts a lot of modern Biblical interpretation as 'God's Law' flat on the ground.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)and a number must be LGBT-friendly
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Obviously, many Christians are not like this, but this pastor...