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[mahina]

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[briv1016]

1. What's the point? He knows the Republicans will never impeach.

I've said it from the beginning. Mueller or the press could release a tape of Donald and Vlad sitting down to a McDonald's lunch discussing their plans to commit election fraud and the Republicans would praise him for his international diplomacy.

[mahina]

10. The rest of his mob do not have the same privilege.

I agree with your assertion.

[Hoyt]

2. Martial law? Not likely.

[Strelnikov_]

4. Yea . .

no shit.

Way too big . . . way too much diversity . . . way too many guns . . . and way too few cops and military.

Oh, yea, and the biggest contraindication . . . way too bad for business.

[mahina]

9. My home state: "Hawaii under martial law was military dictatorship (1941-1944)"

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/ww2-hawaii-martial-law/

I hope you are right.

[Not Ruth]

3. I assume that Mueller would be tortured until he closed the investigation and vindicated Trump

[onenote]

5. Probably the same way an invasion of aliens from outer space would impact it.

Except the invasion from outer space may be more likely.

Do some research about the concept of "martial law" in the US.

[Not Ruth]

6. What if Trump teamed with North Korea and Russia?

Something like the remake of Red Dawn......spoiler alert


















"U.S. Marine Jed Eckert is home on leave in Spokane, Washington. He reunites with his father, Spokane Police Sergeant Tom Eckert and his brother, football player Matt Eckert. The morning after a mysterious power outage, Jed and Matt are shocked to see swarms of invading North Korean paratroopers and transport aircraft. Their father tells them to flee to their cabin in the woods while he helps the townspeople. They are later joined there by Robert Kitner, Daryl Jenkins, and Pete. Tensions build as the teens try to decide whether to surrender to the invaders or resist, with Pete ending up betraying their position. North Korean soldiers, under the command of Captain Cho, bring Sergeant Eckert and the mayor out to convince the group to surrender; while the mayor persuades the boys to give up, Cho executes Sergeant Eckert after he refuses to cooperate and actively encourages them to resist.

Later, Jed announces that he intends to fight and the others agree to join him, calling themselves the Wolverines after their school mascot. After acquiring weapons, establishing a base in an abandoned mine, and being trained by Jed, the Wolverines begin a series of guerrilla attacks against soldiers and collaborators, including Pete. The North Koreans retaliate by bombarding the surrounding woods to destroy the Wolverines' base, killing Danny and Julie, with the remaining survivors fleeing deeper into the woods. The Wolverines eventually encounter Marine Sergeant Major Andrew Tanner and two other Marines, Smith and Hodges. They reveal that the Russian-backed North Korean invasion used an EMP weapon that crippled the U.S. electrical grid and military, followed by landings along the east and west coasts, with American counterattacks eventually halting their advances, leaving an area stretching from Michigan to Montana and Alabama to Arizona as "Free America". They also reveal that Captain Cho carries a suitcase containing an EMP-resistant radio telephone that would enable the U.S. command to contact its remaining forces for a counter-offensive. The Wolverines assist Tanner, Smith, and Hodges in infiltrating the local police station, the North Koreans' center of operations. They succeed in stealing the suitcase with Jed avenging his father's death by killing Cho, though Hodges is killed in the gunfight."

[sarisataka]

11. A gang of highschool students

Will be our last line of defense

[mahina]

7. My state: "Hawaii under martial law was military dictatorship (1941-1944)"

Must feel very good to be so superior.

Why is he trying so hard to escalate the North Korean conflict?

FYI: http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/ww2-hawaii-martial-law/

Cheers.

[Sgent]

14. Except Hawaii wasn't a state during that time period

it was a territory, and different rules apply.

[mahina]

15. You're right, we weren't a state then.

Now, talking to the grandparents, memories flow forth and they are alarming.

Why do you think 45 can't stop escalating this conflict? What does that serve?

[onenote]

18. Martial law in Hawaii was unconstitutional

Under longstanding Supreme Court precedent, martial law can only be imposed under the narrowest of circumstances. As the Court stated, "The Constitution is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances....The necessity [for martial law] must be actual and present; the invasion real, such as effectually closes the courts and deposes the civil administration.”


So unless you're imagining that the North Koreans overrun the entire United States and somehow make it impossible for the judicial system as well as Congress to carry out their functions, you can put aside your concerns about "martial law."

[Trust Buster]

8. Like the martial law that the Republicans claimed was behind the Jade Helm exercises during

The Obama Administration ?

[sarisataka]

12. Most likely

Mueller would be sent to Manhattan after the island is turned into a maximum security prison

[Lee-Lee]

13. Do you have any idea what it would take to put the entire country under martial law?

And that's if, very huge and unlikely if, you could even get the military to go along with it.

You have nowhere near enough people in the military to actually physically do it.

Wild conspiracy theories are a pointless waste of time.

[GulfCoast66]

16. This is as crazy

As the wingers talking about Jade Helm and turning Walmarts into internment camps.

[mahina]

17. Great. So far nobody has answered the question though.

[onenote]

19. There can only be martial law if an invasion effectively shuts down the judicial system

So the question sort of answers itself.

If, somehow (and its pretty much fantasy to think it could happen) the entire nation is put under martial law because there is nowhere that the judicial functions of government can be effectively carried out, then of course the Mueller investigation, as part of the judicial function, would have already been shut down. If there is a way for the Mueller investigation to go forward, then by definition, martial law cannot be lawfully declared.

[mahina]

20. Thank you.

The attack on Hawaii did not shut down our judicial system, but since we weren't a state I understand that example doesn't work perfectly.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. How many points would the Dow drop ?

5,000 points ?

10,000 points?

Of course the markets close after thresholds for large drops are met but they have to eventually reopen.


The 1 to 10% would feel the brunt of the fallout from martial law first as they have the most to lose.

[maxsolomon]

22. How would the impostion of balls affect my Aunt?

she'd be my Uncle.