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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 09:48 AM Sep 2017

Trump lawyers spill beans, thanks to terrible choice of restaurant next door to the New York Times

You can't make this shit up, and no one would believe this in a novel! Trump's idiots! "I only hire the best people."




https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/18/trump-lawyers-spill-beans-after-terrible-restaurant-choice-next-to-nyt/?tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.34dec31c52fa
It is every Washington reporter’s dream to sit down at a restaurant, overhear secret stuff and get a scoop. It rarely happens. Still, everyone in town important enough to have secrets worth keeping knows that secrets are not safe on the Acela train and in Washington restaurants. This is especially true in eateries next door to a major newspaper.

Yes, Ty Cobb and John Dowd, lawyers for President Trump, we’re talking to you. But it’s too late now. Dowd represents Trump but does not work at the White House. Cobb is a White House employee who is instantly recognizable to many because of his handlebar mustache. Together, they went for what appears to have been a working lunch at BLT Steak, 1625 I St. NW in Washington. It’s close to the White House and very convenient. It’s also next door to 1627 I St. NW, which happens to house the Washington bureau of the New York Times.

Sitting at the next table, according to the Times, was Kenneth Vogel, one of Washington’s most skillful investigative reporters. Vogel is former reporter for Politico, which is based in Virginia, who arrived at the Times just in time for the Russia investigation and, as it turned out, just in time for lunch.

Vogel overheard the lawyers talking about White House counsel Donald F. McGahn II and Jared Kushner ................



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Trump lawyers spill beans, thanks to terrible choice of restaurant next door to the New York Times (Original Post) L. Coyote Sep 2017 OP
I was expecting this to be Borowitz. Eugene Sep 2017 #1
Well, look at their boss. Scarsdale Sep 2017 #11
Good point C Moon Sep 2017 #23
That is my concern too. Is this an intentional "leak?" /nt bitterross Sep 2017 #26
Don't they know how to use the proper safeguards and technology underpants Sep 2017 #2
LOL. They may still be living in the 50s. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #5
Glad you found that.. it actually crossed my mind as I read this OP. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #9
They were in the field and should have used the portable cone of silence Brother Buzz Sep 2017 #16
Yes underpants Sep 2017 #17
I saw that clip recently. I think the chief was unable to get that off after they spoke. C Moon Sep 2017 #24
Professor Parker was still working out the bugs Brother Buzz Sep 2017 #31
They need Super Secret Phone Conversation Muzzles and smartphone head sets. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #34
A banned torture device when one has onion and coffee breath. Kaleva Sep 2017 #38
LOL but Smart was good guy. We're dealing with evil doofuses now. flygal Sep 2017 #27
LOMFL! Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2017 #36
Can they really be that stupid? bobbieinok Sep 2017 #3
Yes. Trump only hires people willing to work for him, and this is it! L. Coyote Sep 2017 #6
Cjeck out Jimmy Breslin's "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight" trof Sep 2017 #39
Priceless dalton99a Sep 2017 #4
White House personnel are worried about each other wearing wires? gratuitous Sep 2017 #7
I'd proceed with caution if I were the journalists. This sounds like misdirection NightWatcher Sep 2017 #8
Worth noting, but remember, they are the bottom of the barrel. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #10
None of the big boys in law want to defend him. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2017 #28
I think they wanted to be "overheard" & reported on to misdirect evidence Mueller will -never- see. Sunlei Sep 2017 #12
How would a misdirection to two docs make any difference in a massive investigation? L. Coyote Sep 2017 #13
I'ma have to agree with Coyote on this one. These folks are not known for their strategery flibbitygiblets Sep 2017 #15
I believe that as well. C Moon Sep 2017 #25
Hahahahaha! Morons! nt oppressedproletarian Sep 2017 #14
IMO, stupidity, not "misdirection." For the latter, the doofuses would need to recognize the WinkyDink Sep 2017 #18
Who needs a wire with these guys blabbing? (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #19
Doubt very much this is misdirection. Why draw attention to Enoki33 Sep 2017 #20
The stupid is simply amazing! Kelly must be beside himself at the morans in this WH. LuckyLib Sep 2017 #21
? for any DU lawyers Botany Sep 2017 #22
Everybody has to eat! get the red out Sep 2017 #29
As Aaron Blake of the WaPo has said before. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2017 #30
Trump's attorney has to be the worst job in Washington. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #33
Heh...guess Mueller is going to ask for some documents... Xolodno Sep 2017 #32
Too bad for their next lunch date DFW Sep 2017 #42
"I only hire the best people."...that I can manipulate. nt Javaman Sep 2017 #35
Tweedledee and Tweedledum NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #37
I am far from a public figure. TNNurse Sep 2017 #40
Nine years ago, Biden's staffers did this at a Virginia indoor pool at 7 in the morning DFW Sep 2017 #41
Excellente. Thanks. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #43
No, I almost never save links to my DU pages from ancient history DFW Sep 2017 #44
Could it be...Joe Biden? L. Coyote Sep 2017 #46
Unfortunately, I still don't know DFW Sep 2017 #47
...are you sure that isn't Wilfred Brimley? Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #45
Trump's lawyers don't fall far from the treethey're perfectly incompetent L. Coyote Sep 2017 #48

Eugene

(61,894 posts)
1. I was expecting this to be Borowitz.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 09:54 AM
Sep 2017

This may be a stretch but are the Trumpians organized well enough to mount a disinformation op? Even they can't be this incompetent, can they?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
11. Well, look at their boss.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:19 AM
Sep 2017

Incompetence is his middle name along with several others. Donald J. (Jackass) tRump. Donnie Two Scoops.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
5. LOL. They may still be living in the 50s.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 10:01 AM
Sep 2017

Last edited Mon Sep 18, 2017, 01:46 PM - Edit history (1)

The certainly are living in a bubble.

Brother Buzz

(36,431 posts)
31. Professor Parker was still working out the bugs
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 12:50 PM
Sep 2017

And speaking of bugs, Professor Parker invented the electronic-fly listening device, and a bunch of other cool gadgets.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
34. They need Super Secret Phone Conversation Muzzles and smartphone head sets.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 01:44 PM
Sep 2017


Of course, the muzzles make eating lunch a bit more challenging.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
3. Can they really be that stupid?
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 09:59 AM
Sep 2017

Maybe they're planting false/misleading info?

Maybe they're Laurel and Hardy clones. (German name for the two is 'Dick und Doof'--thick/fat and stupid/dumb.)

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
6. Yes. Trump only hires people willing to work for him, and this is it!
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 10:03 AM
Sep 2017

The best of the best of the very, very few willing idiots.

trof

(54,256 posts)
39. Cjeck out Jimmy Breslin's "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight"
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 05:42 PM
Sep 2017

Lots of similarities to the Donny Two-Scoops gang.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. White House personnel are worried about each other wearing wires?
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 10:07 AM
Sep 2017

No need for that. What do you want to know? Just listen, these dopes will tell you.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
8. I'd proceed with caution if I were the journalists. This sounds like misdirection
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 10:27 AM
Sep 2017

If I wanted to disseminate bad info I'd do it outside of a restaurant next door to the Times and loudly at that.

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
10. Worth noting, but remember, they are the bottom of the barrel.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 10:41 AM
Sep 2017

Doubtful there's much deep thought going on here.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. I think they wanted to be "overheard" & reported on to misdirect evidence Mueller will -never- see.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:22 AM
Sep 2017

not the "two docs locked in a safe" they loudly spoke about. That's a bunch of bullshit they wanted heard.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
13. How would a misdirection to two docs make any difference in a massive investigation?
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:29 AM
Sep 2017

And how does an antic that puts a media spotlight on #TrumpRussia fit into distracting from #TrumpRussia?

It makes no sense to think this is a misdirection because it simply won't work. These guys did not know who was at the next table is far more reasonable. Keep in mind who these people are:


flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
15. I'ma have to agree with Coyote on this one. These folks are not known for their strategery
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:41 AM
Sep 2017

and the only thing I can think of that this would accomplish would be to waste some time looking for something that doesn't exist. Mueller has a lot of resources, so that accomplishes nothing. My guess is these people are as stupid and arrogant as their client.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
18. IMO, stupidity, not "misdirection." For the latter, the doofuses would need to recognize the
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:58 AM
Sep 2017

reporter AND discuss him before sitting down; and in that convo, they'd need to agree on where to sit and what to say (topics, limitations, out-of-bounds, etc.).

Trump people just aren't that clever.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
20. Doubt very much this is misdirection. Why draw attention to
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 12:01 PM
Sep 2017

something most people already suspect? The opposite would be logical.

DinahMoeHum

(21,787 posts)
30. As Aaron Blake of the WaPo has said before. . .
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 12:48 PM
Sep 2017

. . .being Trump's lawyer may be the second-worst job in Washington — behind being his spokesman.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
33. Trump's attorney has to be the worst job in Washington.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 01:31 PM
Sep 2017

A spokesperson can lie without legal consequences. Try doing that to a judge and watch what happens.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
32. Heh...guess Mueller is going to ask for some documents...
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 01:30 PM
Sep 2017

...locked in a safe. Whoops.

And wow...the paranoia that must be in the White House. They must all think at minimum something very illegal happened and don't want to be a bystander who gets pulled down with the ship.

They are probably measuring their words constantly...which means they aren't effectively communicating either. No wonder this administration is constantly bumbling. Not only does the left and right hands not know what each other is doing...they don't want each other to know.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
42. Too bad for their next lunch date
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:32 PM
Sep 2017

No more nice sidewalk cafés--next time, they'll have to meet for lunch in Deep Throat's garage.

If one orders tea, "follow the honey!&quot

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
37. Tweedledee and Tweedledum
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 04:54 PM
Sep 2017

It may be misinformation but I'm betting on gross stupidity. In any case, no doubt Vogel will fact check it.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
41. Nine years ago, Biden's staffers did this at a Virginia indoor pool at 7 in the morning
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:30 PM
Sep 2017

At the time, I caught hell on DU for about 8 hours until Obama announced that what I posted here had been right all along.

The day that soon-to-be-nominee Obama was to announce his VP pick, Biden had been notified already. He told his family and highest staff, but no one else. Two women from his office were getting in an early morning swim before going in to their office for the big announcement in the afternoon. The only other one at the pool at that hour happened to be my nephew. 18 at the time, small for his age and with his mother's strong Oriental features (my brother's wife is from Japan), he was alone there, and they assumed he was an immigrant kid who understood no English. Instead, he is a highly intelligent American who understood English perfectly (he speaks no Japanese). They were excitedly, and openly, discussing the pick of their boss, then-Senator Joe Biden, as Obama's VP.

I posted it on DU and got soundly trashed because I posted no link, and refused to say where I got my information from. After all, DU is no state secret, and why was I going to risk getting some of Biden's staffers in trouble, or even fired, for being so happy for their boss, they made a small (if somewhat insulting to my nephew) slip-up?

Of course, I got no apologies when the confirming announcement was made 8 hours later, but I did get one post encouraging me to say Nyahh Nyahh to me detractors (I didn't bother--Obama's announcement was satisfaction enough, heh heh).

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
43. Excellente. Thanks.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:37 PM
Sep 2017

Great story, one for the history book. Be sure to preserve that page from DU. Do you have the link still?

DFW

(54,378 posts)
44. No, I almost never save links to my DU pages from ancient history
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:43 PM
Sep 2017

At the time, it didn't seem so important to me, and I knew I could never reveal the details until, at the very earliest, after Obama/Biden had been inaugurated for the second time. I don't know who the women were, and for all I knew, they might still have been working for him.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
47. Unfortunately, I still don't know
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:56 PM
Sep 2017

I tried the link and got a message saying some links could not be accessed from the country I'm in, which at the moment happens to be Austria (no Wienerschnitzel comments allowed).

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
48. Trump's lawyers don't fall far from the treethey're perfectly incompetent
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 07:07 PM
Sep 2017
Trump's lawyers don't fall far from the tree—they're perfectly incompetent
By Kerry Eleveld --- Sep 18, 2017

If you marveled over Donald Trump's attorneys Ty Cobb and John Dowd—two supposed Washington veterans—discussing internal legal rifts in the West Wing within ear shot of a New York Times reporter, it's a good time to recap just how incompetent Trump's bunch of misfits have repeatedly proven to be. ..........

...... Apparently, Cobb's learned nothing from The Americans. Likewise, the guy Cobb was complaining about, White House counsel Don McGahn, hasn't figured out he's working among colleagues who leak like pricked helium balloons. ................

Wow, couldn't have seen that coming. But then again, as the Washington Post's Aaron Blake notes, Trump's attorneys haven’t proven to be the sharpest knives in the drawer. Here's excerpts of a list Blake assembled detailing the indiscretions of Trump's legal lackeys. ..........

Cohen, by the way, is scheduled to testify to the Senate Intelligence Committee Tuesday.


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