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Reaction to Spicers Emmys appearance: Please dont normalize him
Former White House press secretary Sean Spicer joins Stephen Colbert on stage to help clarify the crowd size during the 2017 Emmys. (CBS)
Sean Spicer made a surprise appearance at the Emmy Awards on Sunday night, and not everyone was laughing. Spicer, however, seemed pleased with his appearance. Speaking with Entertainment Weekly afterward, he said that at the awards show, everyone has been very gracious, even though its not exactly a Republican crowd.
For many, it was an attempt to normalize a former White House press secretary who repeatedly and blatantly lied to the American people on behalf of President Trump. Spicers joke, mocking his own claims about Trumps inaugural crowd size, stirred many angry reactions on Twitter within moments of him leaving the stage.
NO to Sean Spicer, journalist Mark Harris tweeted. Its so great that we can embrace someone who used a powerful position to abuse the press and lie to America.
Do NOT cheer for Sean Spicer, tweeted Kelly Dittmar, an assistant professor at Rutgers University. This is how we normalize & excuse unethical, racist, sexist, etc. behavior.
Others, including author and commentator Roxane Gay, argued that Spicers appearance reflected white privilege.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/17/reaction-to-spicers-emmys-appearance-please-dont-normalize-him/?utm_term=.3909fa1c2e79
annabanana
(52,791 posts)PSPS
(13,580 posts)get the red out
(13,460 posts)I thought I was in the twilight zone when I saw that GW Bush skit, I feel similar with Spicer. We are making all kinds of governmental misdeeds see ok if the guilty parties can crack a joke about it later.
THIS IS NOT OK!
niyad
(113,074 posts)Orrex
(63,172 posts)Funny is funny, after all.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)how the FUCK can anyone be amused?
niyad
(113,074 posts)Skittles
(153,113 posts)funny is funny? THE MAN WHORED FOR A WHITE SUPPREMIST PUSSY GRABBING RUSSIA-ENABLED ASSHOLE. There is NOTHING amusing about him, NOTHING.
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,924 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Press Secretary' responsibility is not to give his/her opinion on matters, but to tell the President's position. I'm OK with that, but I have to ask -- How can someone stand up there and tell blatant, vile lies over and over, knowing that everyone knows they are lies?
get the red out
(13,460 posts)If your job is to lie to people for the government, you have zero ethics as long as you remain in that job, period.
niyad
(113,074 posts)tblue37
(65,227 posts)skypilot
(8,851 posts)...when he told Kimmel that California Democrats were approaching him and telling him that even though they didn't vote for Trump they still wanted to thank Spicer for his service to the country. Riiiight. This never happened. Maybe--MAYBE-- one especially laid-back, chill, magnanimous and stoned Californian said this to him (though I doubt it) but this was definitely not a THING that was happening while he was in Cali.
Bleacher Creature
(11,252 posts)Before Trump came along and made anyone who wasn't wearing a Klan hood look "moderate," Spicer was a spokesman for the RNC who identified more with the Cruz wing of the party in contrast to Republicans who at least tried to give the appearance of being sane. Just because he's not crazy enough for the Trump people doesn't make him any less of a wingnut.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I didn't see it but had I been in the audience I doubt I would have found it funny.
niyad
(113,074 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)niyad
(113,074 posts)jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)Ken Burns was on, and the Packers.
niyad
(113,074 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)LOL
Xolodno
(6,384 posts)Sure the Nuremberg defesne doesn't work, but...
When he did his briefings...
The press knew he was lying.
Everyone who is not a Trump humper knew he was lying.
Even some Trump humpers probably knew he was lying, but kept it to themselves.
He knew that everyone else knew he was lying and looked like a total buffoon.
He probably signed on with the thought that things will normalize and his press secretary position was temporary and he would get a position that he really wanted. He definitely hated his job and hated working for Trump. He put in his no camera's rule just so Trump couldn't see his "performance" and berate him. Trump told him on his last day he looked 20 years younger...that says something.
In Washington, you can't leave and talk endless trash about your old boss if you plan to get another job.
But last night on the Emmy's, his performance was definitely a FUCK YOU TRUMP as we all know how fragile Trump's ego is.
I'll save my outrage for a couple of other liars that manipulated the press, Congress and the goodwill of the populace, which resulted in scores dead and still has lasting implications today. Bush and Cheney.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)you can be outraged by a "couple of other liars" and STILL BE DISGUSTED BY SEAN FUCKING SPICER. THE MAN IS ABSOLUTE SCUM.
Xolodno
(6,384 posts)...but I'm not required to agree with you.
I leave "absolute scum" for more..."deserving" individuals in my book. His humiliation for working as press secretary for Trump I think is more than enough punishment.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)there is NO AMOUNT OF HUMILIATION that will be enough for SEAN FUCKING SPICER
Xolodno
(6,384 posts)He was paid to pimp for a pussy grabbing, Nazi loving piece shit. And has to live with that fact. He obviously didn't like it and took the first exit out when it was feasible.
And the fact he was willing to make fun of the shit he had to do...speaks volumes to me. Versus someone one like Cheney who has no regrets and still advocates what he did despite the thousands and still counting lives lost. Now that's scum and evil. But applying this label to Cheney and then applying it to Spicer, dilutes the word "scum" and cheapens the evil Cheney did in my view. Spicer may be a word pimp, but he's no Cheney.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)how is showing up at awards ceremonies YUKKING IT UP OVER HIS LIES and helping make America a fucking JOKE "living with it"??? FUCK this, if you love you some fucking treasonous Spicer, go right ahead, I am fucking DONE here.
Xolodno
(6,384 posts)...Spicer isn't part of Mueller's probe, far as we know. So "treason" is a bit too far, at least at this stage. And I love my wife, not Spicer. I'm just acknowledging I was entertained by Spicer and his skit at the Emmy's had to be some butt hurt to Trump. So don't put words in my mouth I never said. And nor am I dismissing his lies, however, most were not fooled by them and he isn't responsible for thousands of lives lost, seriously, lying about a crowd size killed who? Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld and no doubt Trump once everything is revealed, have. If there is a proper outlet for rage....
As for making the USA a fucking joke (I don't like using the term America...its insulting to all the other nations on these two continents, as if they don't matter), too late. The election of Trump was the last nail in that coffin. Anything afterwards, are just consequences. Nor is Spicer responsible for that, it was the voters who voted for Trump and believing the bogus ABC News adds on Facebook that said Obama was forbidding the pledge of allegiance, a pedophile sex ring under a pizza shop, Democrats were going to confiscate their guns, etc.
Done? Ok. Just note, it was you who was trying to convince me to get "outraged" on something I considered trivial in the grand scheme of things. 50 years from now, this won't even be a footnote in a history book, however, Trump on the other hand.... I'm simply stating, I don't believe his chaotic and humorous tenure (and yes, it was humorous, everyone in that room, anyone with significant brain matter, etc. knew he was lying his ass off and knew that he knew, wasn't fooling anyone except Trump) as press secretary is worthy of it, with all things considered. Even Democratic Presidents have lied to us in the past, much less their staff. Should I be outraged as you because Bill Clinton got a blow job that wasn't his spouse and lied about it? Hey, it was embarrassing to the country as well. But was it impeachment worthy? Hell no.
Suggestion, switch to de-caf.
Side note, do you know anything about living in a Yurt full time? Wife and I are kind of entertaining the idea.
Softail1
(56 posts)..honestly, sometimes I wonder how the hell some people in DU get thru life...I mean, it's ok to laugh once in a while, and still be upset at how things are..Jeebus-Cripes, this guy doesn't even work there anymore...."lighten up Francis!", comes to mind..
Xolodno
(6,384 posts)But getting all worked up over someone being a doofus and him making fun of the fact he was doofus... All the while we have an illegitimate President with certain staff who most likely were in the know of about illegal practices... C'mon Really? Being angry all the time makes you resemble the "Angry Old White Guy" stereo type...which is often, a GOP voter.
uponit7771
(90,302 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Spicer pushed unamerican bullshit as the truth.
The first step in treason under the color of authority.
He did hold an official position making him liable for telling us bullshit to push their propaganda.
Huckabee Sanders is worse!
drmeow
(5,012 posts)She is a full scale Nazi - Spicer was just a paid shill for the Nazis. A fine line, I will admit but on a scale of 1 to 10, Spicer's a 7 while Hucanazi Panders is a 15.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,308 posts)Vinca
(50,237 posts)Dear Leader is probably thinking about the ceremony 24/7 and as soon as he can ditch the United Nations he'll be making a jerk of himself with his crazy, 5th grader tweets.
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)validating his lies and his undermining of the press. He makes me sick.
HarmonyRockets
(397 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)See, not funny
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)drmeow
(5,012 posts)I couldn't believe he was really willing to do it. The message I got from it was a public acknowledgment that he lied. To me it was like he was getting up there and saying "I'm a liar - never believe anything I say." I didn't see it as normalizing - I saw it as ridiculing (which is why I couldn't believe he'd be willing to do it).
niyad
(113,074 posts)of endless lying and bs after that. so he can go cheney himself.
Orrex
(63,172 posts)Fuck him.
And shame on Colbert for giving him a platform.
niyad
(113,074 posts)drmeow
(5,012 posts)It calls into question everything he said. Its like when Nixon said "I'm not a crook" - it actually puts the idea in people's head of him being a crook. Now, the Emmys may be preaching to the choir and their audience may already see Spicer as a liar but for any viewer who didn't, that seed is now planted in their head and they will be more inclined to question anything he says. It's not going to get through the Faux news bubble but it might get through to someone who is less woke than the DU crowd.
Orrex
(63,172 posts)Unless he spills the beans on Trump and that information is ironclad and utterly damning, then Spicer should shut his stupid lying mouth and disappear from the public eye forever.
Fuck him.