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Bombshells dropping now on Rachel Maddow ... (Original Post) milestogo Sep 2017 OP
Watching and it is delicious! MLAA Sep 2017 #1
Yes! shenmue Sep 2017 #10
No bombshell for DUers! I read about all of this 2 hours ago BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #2
This place can be a lovely "head's up". annabanana Sep 2017 #5
Yes, DU and twitter too DesertRat Sep 2017 #6
Your dog!! flamingdem Sep 2017 #11
No, she is into me since she stresses out when I do. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #13
Aw, sounds like a real sweet dog flamingdem Sep 2017 #16
i dont get TRMS for 90 min yet.. samnsara Sep 2017 #43
That was posted yesterday...just wait for today's latest... BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #47
I hope dump is on those wiretaps speaking to Manafort onecaliberal Sep 2017 #3
I hope so too! DesertRat Sep 2017 #8
He is...and so is Pence.!! dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #24
That is so good. onecaliberal Sep 2017 #31
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2017 #4
so true! samnsara Sep 2017 #44
Louise Mensch knew about Manafort being recorded a month ago. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #7
Yup. The_jackalope Sep 2017 #9
Exactly! No wonder. Here one of my OPs on Mensch & Taylor a few months ago: Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #12
Why are so many at DU so eager to discredit her?? triron Sep 2017 #15
Hmmm. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #18
Fitzmas. elias7 Sep 2017 #21
I found her before I came here SonofDonald Sep 2017 #25
So well put! I also read them & are able to make up my own mind. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #38
Disagree. Xolodno Sep 2017 #22
It's more than just skepticism. The_jackalope Sep 2017 #26
I'll give you that... Xolodno Sep 2017 #29
I seriously doubt that is why your previous account was "flagged for review" m-lekktor Sep 2017 #32
It was the only reason I could detect. The_jackalope Sep 2017 #33
Hey Bro' madokie Sep 2017 #35
Because she's peddled a lot of BS over the years NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #40
If you communicate with Russians or their allies, you will be monitored. alfredo Sep 2017 #17
Or she guessed correctly. Orsino Sep 2017 #36
Nah, she wrote specifically about him. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #37
yes she did!!!! samnsara Sep 2017 #45
A broken clock is right twice a day. nt kstewart33 Sep 2017 #48
K&R and Tweeted yuiyoshida Sep 2017 #14
Missed it Lazy Daisy Sep 2017 #19
knr triron Sep 2017 #20
...so soon we will all find out if that slimy fucker is willing to fall on his sword... Still In Wisconsin Sep 2017 #23
just so he drags trump down with him and his inbred kids... samnsara Sep 2017 #46
for gaiadiversity Sep 2017 #27
Here ya go... milestogo Sep 2017 #30
There is no honor among republican theives & treasonweasels Achilleaze Sep 2017 #34
k for visibility riversedge Sep 2017 #28
If Manafort was under surveillance before he was involved with Trump whopis01 Sep 2017 #39
There's probably some overlap between milestogo Sep 2017 #41
Certainly if there are good conversations on tape, that would be good. whopis01 Sep 2017 #49
Trump reviewed and vetted Manafort before TRUMP chose him for campaign manager. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #42

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
2. No bombshell for DUers! I read about all of this 2 hours ago
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 09:18 PM
Sep 2017

thanks to DU posts! Since 6:00 I have said out loud to my dog, "I already knew this, I already knew that..."

Thanks DU! We are ON TOP OF IT!!!!!

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
13. No, she is into me since she stresses out when I do.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 10:48 PM
Sep 2017

She gives me kisses when I start to go off (which is all the time since Nov 8th). Poor thing is 14 and doesn't need the stress any more than I do.

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
47. That was posted yesterday...just wait for today's latest...
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:23 PM
Sep 2017

just as bad if not worse! What else is new. This CRAZY shit is non stop since Nov 8th. He is exhausting everyone, especially the already ill (I am one of them and he is helping to kill me sooner via ACA repeal, the mental stress, etc.).

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
24. He is...and so is Pence.!!
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:30 PM
Sep 2017

and flynn and and anyone else who talked to Manafort over the past couple years.

And...looks like NYState DA will be pushing the case at state level, where Trump has no pardon power.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
9. Yup.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 10:40 PM
Sep 2017

LM has been ahead of the curve every step of the way, along with a couple of guys too. No wonder the bots went after her, Claude Taylor and John Schindler so mercilessly.

She was right. About pretty much everything.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
12. Exactly! No wonder. Here one of my OPs on Mensch & Taylor a few months ago:
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 10:46 PM
Sep 2017
If I or anyone else wants to read Mensch and Taylor, it's really NOYDB. Sure I'm not alone on this
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029058445

elias7

(3,976 posts)
21. Fitzmas.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:14 PM
Sep 2017

Many don't want to get their hopes up with uncertain expectations only to see those hopes become dashed again. That's some of it. There's also a big streak of anti-conspiracy theory folks, who are not willing to believe without corroboration. Other reasons, too. Valid.

She had me at the shall we play chess, mr Putin? way back at the beginning. She's been miles ahead. I think she's meant to be a lifeline for us, being fed by some intelligence agency or other.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
25. I found her before I came here
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:31 PM
Sep 2017

I read twitter from her and Claude, I always take things as unproven but I learned a hell of a lot by reading these two along with Tea Pain, 20 Committee, Spicers Mic and others.

And they led me here.

They get put down because of incorrect procedures and other things said in their offerings, like who can or can't do this or that, but I think there are kernels of truth in what they produce, and some has turned out to be correct from what I've seen.

There are those here who spend a lot of effort to put them down, that's ok because I don't read those posts, I don't need to argue about my choice of what I read.

We may find that they were correct about some things in the future, I'll wait to decide what's real till then.

Xolodno

(6,341 posts)
22. Disagree.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:20 PM
Sep 2017

A number on DU have voiced skepticism, not discredit. And I can't blame them, people have been burned before on "news" here. Furthermore, skepticism is a tool used to combat fake news. Following blindly of what you think is a trusted source is a Republican trait.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
26. It's more than just skepticism.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:45 PM
Sep 2017

My previous account (GliderGuider) was suspended for too many mentions of LM. A number of users were very active in alerting on threads about Mensch, and getting them hidden. A suspended account to me indicates more than just skepticism.

Xolodno

(6,341 posts)
29. I'll give you that...
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 12:13 AM
Sep 2017

...but I got hell and high water here, for refusing to accept that Ukraine's overthrow of a Moscow backed politician was not a popular revolt and likely a CIA sponsored coup. I agreed that Putin was behind the Crimea seizure and revolt, but when I pointed out that Crimea technically doesn't belong to either country..I was met with crickets. Fully expected to get banned, but unlike others, I DID NOT post sources like sputnik news or RT. That may have saved me vs. some others. Just because someone publishes it, doesn't make it true. DU is pretty specific on what it considers a reliable source, if its not on the list, then you have to caveat your source. End of story. Its a private site and you have to play by their rules. Which I'm perfectly okay with.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
32. I seriously doubt that is why your previous account was "flagged for review"
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 12:45 AM
Sep 2017

You must have broken other forum rules. I see many people who use her for a source still posting here. I also suspect it is against the rules to start another account if your prior one was flagged for review unless admin gave you permission to so it probably wasn't a good idea to post that publically.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
33. It was the only reason I could detect.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:07 AM
Sep 2017

I had 20,000 posts over 13 years, and had never had any trouble before. All the post removals were Mensch posts, and the TOS violation each time was "No kooky, extremist, or hate content" I think Mensch qualified for them under "kooky", though no one ever told me what precisely I had done wrong.

alfredo

(60,065 posts)
17. If you communicate with Russians or their allies, you will be monitored.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:08 PM
Sep 2017

We don't know how many Trump-drones, and other top Republicans are going to have to answer for selling us out to Putin.

samnsara

(17,570 posts)
46. just so he drags trump down with him and his inbred kids...
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:20 PM
Sep 2017

...and his illegal wife and her anchor baby ( Ok Baron can stay but hes got to be raised OUTSIDE of trump influence). Maybe the Obamas can keep him as a foster child

whopis01

(3,467 posts)
39. If Manafort was under surveillance before he was involved with Trump
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 02:10 PM
Sep 2017

couldn't that be a good thing for Trump?

I didn't see Maddow and have not read much about this yet - so forgive me if I am missing something here.

But if the investigation was underway before Trump was involved, couldn't Trump use that to his advantage? Throw others under the bus and claim if anything was going on it was with them before they were a part of his campaign?

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
41. There's probably some overlap between
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 05:39 PM
Sep 2017

what Manafort did on his own and what he did when he worked for the Trump campaign. If they wiretapped Manafort while he was working for Trump there are probably some very interesting conversations on tape, and Trump loses deniability.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,789 posts)
42. Trump reviewed and vetted Manafort before TRUMP chose him for campaign manager.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 05:55 PM
Sep 2017

Probably chosen because of his Russian connection, not in spite of and not in absence of knowledge of.

Not to Trump's advantage to have this all come out.

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