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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 08:19 PM Sep 2017

What's all this bull shit that the Manafort revelation exonerates Trump?

Manafort was under surveillance with a valid warrant (or two) from the FISA court, according to law.

The right wing assholes that say that this now validates Trump's claim that President Obama had his "wires tapped" is absolute bull shit.

An American citizen CAN NOT commit treason or espionage, even if (or especially if) he or she is part of a Presidential campaign.

What fucking planet am I on? Every patriotic American of any political persuasion should be on the side of getting to the truth of the Russian investigation by any Constitutional means possible, and a warrant makes the Manafort surveillance Constitutional. It's too bad if the orange faced traitor gets caught conspiring on that surveillance tape.

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greeny2323

(590 posts)
1. Of course
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 08:23 PM
Sep 2017

Yep, we all know. The right wing has been screaming all day about it. We can't stop them from being insane. That's what they are.

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
2. Wingers are trying to float that, they're not all that stupid though ... just ask for proof Red Don
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 08:24 PM
Sep 2017

... was wire tapped not ManFart

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
3. Completely absurd
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 08:37 PM
Sep 2017

All roads lead to Russia. This Manafort revelation is further proof that the Russkies put Twittler into power.

JHB

(37,156 posts)
4. It's the USUAL bullshit. The kind they spout every day.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 08:42 PM
Sep 2017

More to the point, the kind they swallow every day. At the all-you-can-swallow buffet crawls (like a bar crawl, but imbibing bullshit) they enjoy so much.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. What have we learned about the GOP and
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 08:55 PM
Sep 2017

how they act when the heat is getting them. Gee,maybe the money trail is leading to certain leadership peoples bank accounts.

Yonnie3

(17,421 posts)
8. Just an alternative fact here - move along now, nothing more to see here.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 09:26 PM
Sep 2017

"What's all this bull shit ... ?" err. Bullshit.

PragmaticLiberal

(904 posts)
9. The funny thing is the President CAN'T order a wiretap.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 09:45 PM
Sep 2017

So what Trump supporters should be asking themselves is WHY Manafort was under surveillance....

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. Exactly. That is the whole reason for a Court.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 10:03 PM
Sep 2017

To insure a President can't get involved in the process.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
10. Who the f#@k cares how his wire was tapped?
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 09:50 PM
Sep 2017

He was a slimy bastard who was wire tapped because it was the right thing to do according to the law. Did some federal judge just up and decide to issue a warrant, or was there evidence that he was slimy? I tend to believe the latter. If they don't believe it, they are not Americans.

Like I keep telling everyone, these people are NOT Americans. They are Russians, Russian agents, or Russian enablers. We need to stop this narrative that tRump and his cronies are Americans.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
12. FISA wiretaps are approved by a panel of Judges from the Judicial Branch.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 10:06 PM
Sep 2017

The Executive branch has no approval power and if it wants wiretaps, it has to provide compelling reasons to the Court.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. Huh?
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 08:11 AM
Sep 2017

I didn't say the executive branch had ordered it. My point was that a judge ordered it, and that judge had to be convinced that there was cause to issue the order.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
14. You'll never convince a Trumpbot that Don isn't pure as the driven snow.
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 06:31 AM
Sep 2017

But if you encounter any, tell them if Don didn't hang around with criminals he wouldn't be recorded.

 

haveahart

(905 posts)
16. The media should just go dark on anything related to Trump[-Russia investigation.
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 07:02 AM
Sep 2017

Let Mueller do his job and stop jeopardizing the investigation with leaks and innuendo. Wait for the final verdict and it will be great.

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