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still_one

(92,061 posts)
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:53 PM Sep 2017

CNN to host town hall debate Monday with Graham, Cassidy, Sanders and Klobuchar

CNN will host a town hall with Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham and Bill Cassidy, who will be debating health care with Sens. Bernie Sanders and Amy Klobuchar on Monday, September 25 at 9 p.m. ET.
CNN anchor Jake Tapper and chief political correspondent Dana Bash will moderate the 90-minute live event from Washington.

Graham and Cassidy are the namesake sponsors of a last-ditch effort to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act ahead of an end-of-the-month deadline, while Sanders introduced a new "Medicare for all" health care bill with a third of the Senate Democratic caucus by his side.

According to the chamber's parliamentarian, senators only have until the end of the month to pass a bill with just 51 votes under the procedure known as reconciliation, and the Senate's latest push isn't all that different than the one that ultimately resulted in a health care bill being passed in the House.

As of Thursday, it's not clear whether there are enough Republican votes to advance the Graham-Cassidy proposal, a health care bill that was released a week ago and would repeal the individual and employer mandates and turn the federal funding for Medicaid expansion and the subsidies into a block grant program.

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The town hall debate will air on CNN, CNN en Español and CNN International as well as stream live for subscribers on CNNgo and the CNN mobile apps for iOS and Android. The town hall debate will also air on CNN's SiriusXM Channel 116. The town hall debate will also be available September 26 on demand via cable or satellite systems, CNNgo platforms and CNN mobile apps.



http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/21/politics/graham-cassidy-town-hall-sanders-kobuchar/index.html


 

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CNN to host town hall debate Monday with Graham, Cassidy, Sanders and Klobuchar (Original Post) still_one Sep 2017 OP
Go for the jugular! Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #1
Go get em Bernie! SHRED Sep 2017 #2
:-) MuseRider Sep 2017 #5
not going to be productive drray23 Sep 2017 #3
"Hello, Senators... LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #4
unfortunately , most of them are wealthy enough that they could go on without insurance and be fine drray23 Sep 2017 #6
Cassidy is worth a hair over $2 million, with the average member of congress LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #8
No. Most of them aren't that wealthy to withstand something unexpected JI7 Sep 2017 #25
Good question. SHRED Sep 2017 #7
Thanks, SHRED. n/t LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #9
Since a lie would be easy, why bother asking? It's not like they'd be held to it. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #13
the Rs will simply obfuscate, lie, and double speak ollie10 Sep 2017 #18
I can't watch for health reasons... BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #10
A last minute debate is no substitute for considered deliberation on public policy bucolic_frolic Sep 2017 #11
Maybe some people will grasp the truth? And we're not getting anything else, so.... WinkyDink Sep 2017 #15
If the focus ISN'T on how the Cassidy/Graham bill will hurt a lot of people, and instead chooses to still_one Sep 2017 #16
Bernie will be there. What do YOU think will be the focus? WinkyDink Sep 2017 #17
it better not be single payer that is what Graham is hoping for...it needs to be against the GOP Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #21
I'm dead certain Schumer, Pelosi etc are deeply involved in planning this, and selecting who'd debat riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #31
I hope you're right. Remember when Sanders wanted to debate Trump? That was weird AF bettyellen Sep 2017 #33
Gotta use VERBATIM language! And pin them down on "assurances" and "guarantees" without penalty for WinkyDink Sep 2017 #12
I am pretty sure cassidy and graham are going to push the argument to states rights, that states still_one Sep 2017 #19
Will Jimmy Kimmel be in the audience? ButSeeYa Sep 2017 #14
This will be worth some debate watch parties! LongTomH Sep 2017 #20
I could see a schedule conflict excuse in the future tom_kelly Sep 2017 #22
Why is it hard to believe ? JI7 Sep 2017 #24
There is little political gain in it for him. Nt Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #28
He is from south Carolina JI7 Sep 2017 #30
You are correct. He is. Nt Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #32
You know what? I have spent a lot of time on here Naderizing Bernie - NBachers Sep 2017 #23
Depends where the focus is NB still_one Sep 2017 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #26
I like this but there is a difficult aspect to overcome when debating people who easily lie. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #27

drray23

(7,616 posts)
3. not going to be productive
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:59 PM
Sep 2017

To have a good debate, you need people to agree on facts and debate on policies that they propose to reach desired outcomes.
One can disagree on the desired outcomes or how to get there but one should at least agree on the facts.
Over the past decades, the GOP has fallen into that fact free way of thinking because they found out they can get elected that way.
Cassidy was interviewed on MSNBC recently and all he did was shouting at the host without answering the questions. Basically, spouting bald faced lies.

LuckyCharms

(17,413 posts)
4. "Hello, Senators...
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:02 PM
Sep 2017

My question is as follows:

Would you be willing to commit, right now in front of a national audience, that you would be willing to convert to private insurance should this bill pass? I'm talking about private insurance that would set premiums based on any pre-existing conditions that you may have, and would also cap lifetime payouts? I am assuming that your answer will be an unequivocal yes, considering that this is what you are proposing for the people you represent"

drray23

(7,616 posts)
6. unfortunately , most of them are wealthy enough that they could go on without insurance and be fine
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:04 PM
Sep 2017

unlike the vast majority of americans.

LuckyCharms

(17,413 posts)
8. Cassidy is worth a hair over $2 million, with the average member of congress
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:09 PM
Sep 2017

being worth slightly under $2 million.

Considering that they have families that need to be covered also, this is no where near enough to cover many illnesses over the course of a lifetime.

Also, I'm sure that much of their worth is tied up in non-liquid assets.

JI7

(89,240 posts)
25. No. Most of them aren't that wealthy to withstand something unexpected
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:39 PM
Sep 2017

Especially if they are the main earners with family to support.

Yes. They would be in a better place than most Americans who make far less.

Butt it would mean giving things up with their lifestyle.

 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
18. the Rs will simply obfuscate, lie, and double speak
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:05 PM
Sep 2017

it will be their word against the Ds.

The Ds won't be able to really say much since this monstrosity has not been scored. Convenient....

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
10. I can't watch for health reasons...
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:40 PM
Sep 2017

I am on the edge as is. This would harm my fragile state of mind more than help it.

bucolic_frolic

(43,058 posts)
11. A last minute debate is no substitute for considered deliberation on public policy
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:44 PM
Sep 2017

I don't see the usefulness of this, except to publicize Trumpcare extremists

still_one

(92,061 posts)
16. If the focus ISN'T on how the Cassidy/Graham bill will hurt a lot of people, and instead chooses to
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:56 PM
Sep 2017

talk about a bill that doesn't have the votes to pass in the next four years, it could unintentionally cause the Cassidy/Graham bill to pass, and end up putting healthcare progress behind for decades


Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
21. it better not be single payer that is what Graham is hoping for...it needs to be against the GOP
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:56 PM
Sep 2017

and include fixes for the ACA

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
31. I'm dead certain Schumer, Pelosi etc are deeply involved in planning this, and selecting who'd debat
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:54 PM
Sep 2017

This isn't happening without the leadership on both sides deciding to do it and, certainly for the Democrats, Sanders and Klobuchar were hand selected for this.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
12. Gotta use VERBATIM language! And pin them down on "assurances" and "guarantees" without penalty for
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:53 PM
Sep 2017

having none.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
19. I am pretty sure cassidy and graham are going to push the argument to states rights, that states
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:06 PM
Sep 2017

will determine how their healthcare dollars should be allocated.

Our response of course should be that there is no "assurance" or "guarantees" that the states will insure adequate cover. They should also bring up that the bill will also allow states to allow insurance companies higher premiums for those with pre-existing conditions, which would effectively make it unaffordable for many. Less people will be uninsured, and rather than help people, it hurts them.

Essentially what you are saying




tom_kelly

(957 posts)
22. I could see a schedule conflict excuse in the future
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:56 PM
Sep 2017

future. It's hard for me to believe Graham will go through with this.

NBachers

(17,081 posts)
23. You know what? I have spent a lot of time on here Naderizing Bernie -
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:00 PM
Sep 2017

But I think he'll be the exact right person to have on our side in this debate.

Response to still_one (Original post)

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
27. I like this but there is a difficult aspect to overcome when debating people who easily lie.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:42 PM
Sep 2017

Correct them and you aren't getting your point across. Let it stand and it's consumed as the truth.

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