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By Jen Hayden at the Daily Kos
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/21/1700431/-Why-is-GOP-so-desperate-to-pass-this-terrible-health-care-bill-The-Koch-brothers-threatened-them
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So why are Republicans so laser-focused on gutting health care and tackling tax reform, which is nothing more than cutting taxes for the wealthy? Because The Swamp ordered them to do it and Republicans are beholden to their swamp masters above all others. The Koch brothers went to a Republican retreat in June and ordered them to gut health care and cut taxesor else:
At a weekend donor retreat attended by at least 18 elected officials, the Koch brothers warned that time is running out to push their agenda, most notably healthcare and tax reform, through Congress.
One Texas-based donor warned Republican lawmakers that his Dallas piggy bank was now closed, until he saw legislative progress.
Get Obamacare repealed and replaced, get tax reform passed, said Doug Deason. Get it done and well open it back up.
Republicans are terrified the Dallas piggy bank wont be ponying up to prop them up and buy elections like theyve so reliably done in the past. The Koch brothers and their allies want these things, and they want them right now.
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applegrove
(118,636 posts)dogman
(6,073 posts)He'll go with the Dems if they don't.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)jalan48
(13,862 posts)Leith
(7,809 posts)The corrupt money boys don't want to stop. Are they going to throw money at Democrats? Are they going to quit giving money and risk not owning government?
This sounds like a golden opportunity to really clean up government and get rid of the literally billions thrown at elections.
AllaN01Bear
(18,187 posts)applegrove
(118,636 posts)climate change?
not fooled
(5,801 posts)They succeeded in taking over the U.S., without firing a shot. Not that lots of people haven't and won't continue to die because of their agenda. They plotted and schemed for decades and have done it. Their agenda is being enacted by dump.
e.g. [link:http://ifg.org/kochtopus/|]
They handed dump the names of cabinet members and judicial nominees.
Just look at where dump's focus has been: deregulating the fossil fuel industry.
They are literally running the country.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)It's about tax cuts for the rich. They want to gut/destroy medicaid, and with the money thus saved give a big fat tax cut to the super rich and to corporations. Sticking it to Obama is a very small, but to them, a very satisfying side benefit. The greedy grubby ones want their tax cut more than anything. They will tell any and every lie to get it.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in this absolutely dreadful expression of dark-money donors' viciously callous extremism now.
Looking at the inevitable effect on average life expectancy if they succeeded in rolling back the safety net we created in the last century, denying to benefits of the medical revolution to many millions, it's impossible not to realize that an intended effect is not just lower/no taxes for them now but a sort of socioeconomic genocide, or "cleansing" as some like to call it, of people they consider unworthy. Libertarians especially are lacking in altruism and truly believe our society is sick, that a healthy one is based on a self selection of the strongest and elimination of the weak.
A genocide also seems even more starkly obvious as a deliberate goal when you realize that we are nearing the end of working full time as a way of life and will need to allocate guaranteed incomes to people they think they won't need, and who don't and won't need them.
Indeed, there was a sense of frustration and urgency inside the private receptions and closed-door briefings at the Koch brothers donor retreat this weekend in Colorado Springs, where the billionaire conservatives and their chief lieutenants warned of a rapidly shrinking window to push their agenda through Congress and get legislation to President Donald Trump to sign into law.
No agenda items mattered more to the conservative Koch network than the GOPs promise to overhaul the nations tax code and repeal and replace President Barack Obamas health care law. At the moment, however, both are bogged down by GOP infighting that jeopardizes their fate.
At least one Koch official warned that the Republican Partys House majority could be in jeopardy if the GOP-led Congress doesnt follow through. ... If they dont make good on these promises there are going to be consequences, and quite frankly there should be, said Sean Lansing, chief operating officer for the Koch networks political arm, Americans For Prosperity.
There is urgency, said AFP president Tim Phillips. We believe we have a window of about 12 months to get as much of it accomplished as possible before the 2018 elections grind policy to a halt. The window for action may be even smaller, some Koch allies warned at the three-day donor retreat that drew roughly 400 participants to the base of the Rocky Mountains. The price for admission for most was a pledge to give at least $100,000 this year to the Kochs broad policy and political network. There were also at least 18 elected officials on hand.
In between meetings, Rep. Dave Brat, R-Va., predicted dire consequences in next years midterm elections should his party fail to deliver on its repeated promises. If we dont get health care, none of us are coming back, he said in a brief interview. We said for seven years youre gonna repeal Obamacare. Its nowhere near repealed. Its the same for an overhaul of the tax code, Brat said: We dont get taxes through, were all going home. Pack the bags.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Read this some time back and it is right on. And yes,the Koch Family has been trying to over throw our Government since the 1930's. Smedly Butler saved the day the last time.
58Sunliner
(4,386 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Always obvious.
They were going to pass whatever health care bill happened to be on the table at deadline. Very appropriately a form of Russian Roulette.
The Republicans won't pay a political price. Anyone who believes that is remarkably shortsighted and blunderous towards situational variables.
Trump will continue to call it a great bill, an amazing improvement. He'll have plenty of surrogate liars doing the same. That will be the plastered theme on everything Fox.
By the time the changes happen there will be so many other political developments on the table or in the more recent past that all the same gullible people who fall for lies and vote Republican will still be falling for lies and voting Republican, whether or not they even notice that their health care coverage is far more expensive and much worse.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)so that the changes are phased in gradually. They know Americans have bad memories and short attention spans, and that most voters won't put 2 and 2 together as to why their healthcare is negatively impacted.
Hell, the quality of life and aspirational expectations of the average American have been going down the crapper starting with raygun and morans keep electing pukes. Coupled, of course, with election theft through vote stealing, gerrymandering, voting process manipulation, and propagandizing.
The America we are taught to believe in no longer exists. It's been turned into a cash cow for the oligarchy. The rest of us are peasants that should be grateful they allow us to live.
elleng
(130,881 posts)Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)The Democrats manage to survive on mostly small donations. Why is that so hard for the Republicans? Their constituents won't pony up?