2020 Democratic Presidential Ticket. Biden-Harris or Sanders-Harris?

[nkpolitics1212]

Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders become the Democratic nominee for President in 2020. Kamala Harris becomes the Democratic nominee for Vice President in 2020. The 2020 Democratic Ticket wins. President Biden or President Sanders resign from office after the 2022 midterm election to give Vice President Kamala Harris the incumbency advantage in 2024.

[karadax]

1. Wait so you want either Sanders or Biden to give up

A second term ? Why? I think both men are more than deserving. They shouldnt have to give up anything.

[nkpolitics1212]

6. Sanders or Biden will be in 86/87 years old after the complete their 2nd full 4 year term.

The oldest former US Presidents Ronald Reagan was 77 years old when he left office in January 20,1989. Assuming Donald Trump wins re-election in 2020 and somehow manages to serve a 2nd full 4 year term-he will be 78 years old in January 20,2025.
Sanders or Biden will be older than Reagan or Trump after they complete their 1st 4 year term.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. Agreed.

[INdemo]

2. We need the next generation to choose from

[MoonRiver]

3. Harris and someone besides Biden or Sanders as second on the ticket.

[ProudLib72]

29. This

X1000

[frazzled]

4. Because we need 78- and 79-year-old men at the top of the ticket

to offset an energetic, mid-career black woman?

I'm sorry, but somehow I'm offended by the suggestion that this is the only formula we can find. No disrespect to them, but both of these men have run for president before, and haven't made it past the primaries. They're the past: we need the future.

[Jersey Devil]

5. Me too!

I agree completely.

[WhiteTara]

9. Yep. I'm rather tired of old white men

who think they know everything while pushing women to the curb.

[tavernier]

18. I don't think Joe

fits that description.

[WhiteTara]

22. read a bit of Joe's history

with credit card companies. He lost the primaries 3 times. No to Joe.

[tavernier]

23. Couldn't find anything re credit cards.

[delisen]

32. Credit Cards-Delaware's major industry for decades.

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As Senator Biden has advanced their interests and has not always seemed to be om the customer/consumer side on issues such as interest rates, and high fees.

For some reason I have not been able to figure out, many "anti-corporatists" seem unaware or unconcerned about that aspect of the "big banks."

Over many decades credit card debt has driven people to bankruptcy and the banks have been allowed to charge usurious rates.

[nolabear]

14. Seriously. It's OUR TIME.

[smirkymonkey]

36. Thank YOU!

I like them both but they are too old and have too much baggage. Let's move forward with some new blood.

[GoCubsGo]

38. Thank you!

Why should Kamala Harris, should she decide to seek a higher office, be at the bottom of the ticket.

I am totally sick of these damn "What about So-and-So and So-and=So in 2020?" threads. Let's get through this year, and through the 2018 elections before we start worrying about that. Half these people, whose names are being bandied about, haven't even said they want to run.

[haveahart]

7. None of the above!

[WhiteTara]

8. More old white men?

Not for me thanks. I'm tired of their messes.

[NobodyHere]

13. Wow

Ageist, sexist and racist all in one post!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

27. One sentence... new record?

[GeorgeGist]

10. Neither ...

I'm a boomer and I think it's time to let go.

[TexasBushwhacker]

19. Me too!

[Tarheel_Dem]

11. No! Just No! n/t

[brush]

12. Sanders is not a Democrat and we don't want that divisiveness again. Plus he'll be 80

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. 80 is the new 60... not really THAT old. Hell, one could argue Bernie is just reaching his prime!

[brush]

37. You can argue that if you want but no one's buying it. 80 is too old...

especially when we got several ACTUAL DEMOCRATS in their 40s and 50s who don't go around continually bashing the party.

[Thrill]

15. There are young fresh Democrats out there

You want to run people close to 80? Really

Get behind O’Malley, Sherrod Brown, Corey Booker, Howard Schultz, Steve Bullock, Joe Kennedy, Etc

[delisen]

33. Why would you try to keep anyone from running?

Limiting the competition so that a favored candidate might win, would mean the will of the people might be thwarted.

It reminds me of the days when help wanted ads in newspapers were segregated into male and female-it kept women out of the better paid and higher responsibility jobs. By limiting the labor pool in this way, less qualified men found it easier to score good jobs. the best

I am not interested in limiting the labor pool for the presidency.

Germany got itself an energetic, charismatic, relatively young leader back in the twentieth Century. It didn't work out well for the Germans.

They are wiser now and that is apparent in their choice for chancellor. No charisma, no breathless adulation from the electorate, no star power-just wisdom and competence, especially in the area of foreign affairs.

[DavidDvorkin]

16. Neither, but it's academic

Neither Biden nor Sanders will get the nomination. If either one runs, he'll probably drop out early in the primary season, after a devastating loss or two.

[Demsrule86]

17. The Democratic candidate should be the person who wins the primary.

I do not think either Biden or Sanders should run...we need new faces.

[LWolf]

20. Neither.

I'm pleased to see that Bernie is healthier, more energetic, and more politically active than so many much younger than he, but as long as there is a candidate to challenge the neoliberal establishment, it doesn't need to be Bernie.

Personally, I'd like to see a Nina Turner-"Chuy" Garcia ticket. My own Senator Merkley would be a great choice, but I'd rather keep him doing a stellar job in the Senate.

There are others on the radar as well. I have two clear requirements for my support; any candidate I support must be to the left of the neoliberal establishment, and decidedly NOT a neoliberal in both walk and talk.

[4now]

21. I would stay home

[Cal Carpenter]

24. There are some kind of fucked up assumptions (at best)

or paternalistic and possibly racist/sexist bullshit (at worst) built into those scenarios.

So, I guess my answer is no and no.

[monmouth4]

25. Adam Schiff has caught my eye and I'm sticking with him..n/t

[Xolodno]

30. Sanders has pretty much telegraphed he's done.

He would have stayed "D" if he was entertaining the idea of another run. His goal was to stop any right ward tilt of the Democratic Party and bring Single Payer or Medicare For All to the discussion table. He succeeded. You now have hard right Repubs actually taking active positions against Single Payer. What was once a non issue, is now an issue.

I like Harris, but let her have a bit of time in the Senate. Let her build a formidable Resume. There are others out there who could become a force to reckon with, but unlike Clinton, the GOP isn't sure who will receive the baton...and that works to our advantage and their disadvantage.

[Stinky The Clown]

31. How about Harris/Somebody . . . . or Klobuchar/Somebody.

It is LONG PAST time for a woman.

[NotASurfer]

34. Who predicted Obana?

Next up could be on the radar at the same level.

[lunamagica]

35. No