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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI've been told that if the ACA is not overturned by Sept 30
it will be permanent, or rather they can overturn it. Is this correct? Thank you duers.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,326 posts)After that, they need 60 votes.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Ninsianna
(1,349 posts)tblue37
(65,340 posts)wealthy donors. They only get to do one reconciliation procedure per fiscal year.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)the filthy and disgusting pricks installed that motherfucker gorsuch?
Can they do that with a simple majority?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)administratively hurt the ACA.
W_HAMILTON
(7,864 posts)I believe the fiscal year ends on September 30th, therefore, if they don't pass an Obamacare repeal through reconciliation by then, they have to "start over" <-- whatever that means. I think it just means they have to restart the procedural efforts again to initiate repeal through reconciliation in the new fiscal year. I'm not sure how long that takes, but I'm guessing it could be within a couple of months......
tblue37
(65,340 posts)unblock
(52,212 posts)Then they can try to repeal aca under reconciliation rules for the new year.
Nothing's permanent, they can try every year. But we get a breather because they have to pass a new budget before they can bring up reconciliation bills.
That gives us at least a few months anyway....
Hopefully, the politics shift and they won't feel compelled to try this crap every year....
alfredo
(60,071 posts)unblock
(52,212 posts)So in practice, no.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)unblock
(52,212 posts)then they would only need 50 votes (+ pence as tie-breaker) for any law and they wouldn't need to go through the whole reconciliation process.
i'd say they'd be willing to do this if they knew they had the votes, but seeing as they can't even muster 50, what use is that.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)unblock
(52,212 posts)If they go nuclear, it's because they don't plan on losing the senate for a long, long time.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)alfredo
(60,071 posts)It was someone like Newt.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)Work done for the American People that they'll be in power long enough to ungerrymander the National map, and then the GOP will be well and truly fucked.
With Trump about to be indicted or unelected in 2020, there's no fucking way theyll risk it.
unblock
(52,212 posts)They've still got the media and voter suppression and other dirty tricks.
I don't think they're planning on making sure they have a tiny amount of power when the hqv lost the White House and the house and have only 41-50 votes in the senate.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)and they lose only 3 seats in 2018 their majority is over (whew). I'd prefer Dems win more seats but at this rate I'll take a 3-seat win.
unblock
(52,212 posts)The senate "map" is terrible for us in 2018
Rollo
(2,559 posts)The Wealthcare bill will be dead for the rest of this year. The GOP can go through the same motions next year, and they probably will. Hopefully the Dems will win enough seats in Congress in the '18 elections to prevent further repeats.
Time will tell.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)With his recent brain cancer diagnosis it may not be too long before Arizona will have a new senator and this one would be unlikely to vote to keep Obamacare.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)Yes, his is an aggressive form of brain cancer. However biotech has made great strides in using advanced techniques (like DNA directed targeting etc. and stuff I no longer am current with) to combat various forms of cancer. No doubt he'll get the best treatment available.
R B Garr
(16,953 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)They hold congress, the presidency and a majority of states.
Autumn
(45,078 posts)better for the Dems in the long run. Letting it collapse over a period of time allows the GOP skate on the anger of their constituents past 2018.
Warpy
(111,255 posts)and that means they'll need 60 votes to overturn it, something they know they won't have. This is the last attempt for a while, unless they can come up with something that farts flowers at all of us.
The Koch boys have closed their wallets for the duration. That's why this damned thing won't curl up and die and why they're attempting overt bribes to Alaska and Maine.
winetourdriver01
(1,154 posts)After sep. 30 it will take two thirds of the Senate to repeal the ACA. Not gonna happen.