Has Bernie Sanders said anything about Trump's attacks on black athletes?

[EffieBlack]

Serious question. I assume he's commented but can't find anything.

[Agschmid]

1. Serious question

Uh huh, sure.

[EffieBlack]

2. If he's commented, please point me to it.

Thank you.

[Agschmid]

8. Use Google.

[EffieBlack]

11. I did. I didn't see anything.

[Agschmid]

46. Well there you go. Problem solved.

[jrthin]

3. Sanders said during the primary

that he does not do identity politics.

[SunSeeker]

100. Objecting to Trump's attack on free speech is not "doing identity politics." nt

[boston bean]

111. That sucks. Glad most members of the party I belong to do take a stand.

[SunSeeker]

116. +1

[Eliot Rosewater]

124. +2,369,369,256,258,247

[heaven05]

153. of this

I'm sure.

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. Check in tomorrow. She will at the daily press briefing.

Guaranteed Sarah will stand up for her boss.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Don't know. Has Hillary?

Serious question. I assume she's commented but I can't find anything.

[marylandblue]

6. Only thing she said today was that the Navy needs to help Puerto Rico

And if she were president, that's exactly what we would be talking about.

[Nevernose]

20. Which is extra weird because the Navy's disaster relief left Puerto Rico today

To go deal with harder hit areas, while the Army deals with Puerto Rico. I guess it's been a while since she got daily briefings.

[George II]

27. I don't think the Navy has been involved with disaster relief in Puerto Rico.

[leftofcool]

60. They weren't. They left PR to go elsewhere

Hillary is right, they should send out another crew.

[George II]

62. Yes they should and yes she was. I can't believe that after all this time (a week or so) that....

....there has been so little military aid sent to Puerto Rico. We certainly have the resources, and we have naval bases very close by.

[Ninsianna]

93. Or perhaps not so weird, considering the news today that the Hospitals are full and they're

requesting aid, like oh, say a hospital ship, like say the USNS Comfort, a hospital ship currently moored in Norfolk, VA to take care of American citizens in need of a hospital.

I guess she's not the one that's failing to grasp the situation, even without daily briefings.

It's extra weird that she literally tweeted about it and people refer to her tweet, but don't seem to know what she actually said or what it means. It's like people are having trouble reading or something with all the snarking they're doing demeaning people for asking a simple question they can't answer for some reason.

[Nevernose]

145. All I know is what the news reports

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article175066201.html

[Ninsianna]

149. Did you read these news reports?

That was the group that was dealing with foreign aid, Puerto Rico is not a foreign territory.

You might want to expand your news consumption, look up the USS Comfort, which is also in the news, mostly because it's a hospital ship and the Governor of Puerto Rico is specifically talking about hospitals and the need for immediate help, which HRC picked up on but everyone else seems to be ignoring for some reason.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-storm-maria-puertorico-hospitals/battered-puerto-rico-hospitals-on-life-support-after-hurricane-maria-idUSKCN1BZ13S

[sharedvalues]

7. How about the GOP who benefits from dividing Democrats?

TVO - I'm on your side. Why are we asking these questions at all? Asking if Bernie did anything like this achieves only one purpose -- helping the GOP divide Democrats.

Did Ted Cruz say anything?
John Cornyn?
Mitch McConnell?
Frank Luntz?
Charles Koch?
Robert Mercer?
Steve Bannon?
Neil Gorsuch?
Samuel Alito?
Clarence Thomas?
Wilbur Ross?
Steve Wynn?
Grover Norquist?

All of the above benefit from the GOP inciting racism. Those are the people we need to hear from.

Stop it with the attacks on Democrats and their allies.

[EffieBlack]

12. Asking a question is an attack on Democrats?

Okaaay.

[sharedvalues]

16. "Just asking questions"

Not saying that you're doing this intentionally, but
- "Just asking questions"
- Whataboutism
And
- bothsidesism

Are all frequently used propanganda methods.
Again, not saying you're pushing divisive propaganda, but others that do push divisive propaganda sometimes use the same methods. It's worth thinking about who else lines up with you when you take a side.

[heaven05]

156. we do see

where many stand, don't we....you are awesome my to you

[heaven05]

155. we already know

where these people stand, have known will know always where they stand. A question about BS is NOT an attack. Serious question, no answers about that specific question yet. A lot of diversion, distraction, prevarication and obfuscation but no direct answer. Why?

[pangaia]

40. LOLOL HALIBUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[snort]

92. snort

[Ninsianna]

94. Well, he's a sitting senator, she's not.

They both tweeted today about Puerto Rico, he with a generic, "we should do something", she with a specific course of action "The adults in the Exec office should send in the USNS Comfort to PR".

So no, the NFL comments from both were nonexistent, not sure why it was so difficult for people to simply answer the question, or why the pile on and personal attacks and deflections were the choice of some folks.

The hostility needs to go away. The bias and the toxicity are clearly evident, and this is why this place is so toxic, and it ain't "many sides".

[Demsrule86]

106. Hillary Clinton is not in the Senate.

[Fullduplexxx]

133. She isn't President she isn't even running or in congress are you

As concerned with every non-governmental person or just hillary

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

135. Hillary is an important, high profile person

who said she is going to stay active in politics even though she doesn't plan to run for office again. She comments on a lot of things. Many Democrats think of her as a leader. She isn't obligated to comment - nobody is -
but given her strong positions on civil rights, why wouldn't she?

[Ninsianna]

137. She's busy suggesting specfic things that can be done to address Puerto Rico's needs.

So, why is bringing up Hillary the go to, when it comes to asking a question about what Bernie, an elected, serving office holder said, if anything?

The simple answer, that he didn't choose to weigh in, is perfectly acceptable response, so why all the animosity, the personal attacks and the deflection?

Also, if that's what you feel, that's valid too, Senator Sanders per all of his fans is so very popuar, and apparently single handedly led the Civil Rights movement, per his fans, there is that one photograph that proved this to them, so since so many have claimed for him this uber popular claim, and have coronated him a Civil Rights hero, why is it odd to ask what he said, and why the remarkably hostile response to someone asking that question?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

138. Exactly my point. Nobody is obligated to comment.

[Ninsianna]

143. My point was the aggrressive, hostile and abusive response to a simple question.

What's that about?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

144. If you find a post to be hostile and abusive you could alert on it.

Mine wasn't.

[Ninsianna]

147. I was pointing out that overt and explicit hostility, agressive personal attacks are

the norm on this thread. The fact that they're still present speaks volumes, and are testimony to the faultiness of the "many sides" arguments that are made here. See where the toxicity is coming from and how it persists, to simple questions.

[pandr32]

162. I agree with you

It is way passed time to change this, too. We had one nominee in the general--Hillary Clinton. We had several primary challengers: Bernie Sanders, Lincoln Chafee, Jim Webb, Martin O'Malley, and Lawrence Lessig. Hillary Clinton beat out the lot of them, including the last man standing--Bernie Sanders. It is a fact. Bernie Sanders replaced the "D" with an "I" and is still there.
They are not equal.
Hillary Clinton was the most qualified candidate running on either side of the aisle as even some Republicans pointed out. The Republican field had many more candidates in the Primary, but we do not try and equate Cruz or Kasich to Trump because they made it to the last stretch of the primary battle. They lost--Trump won.
By pretending that the Democrat Party is split equally we keep it divided.
Hillary Clinton won the primary soundly and she and the DNC tried to welcome Bernie Sanders--gave him input on the platform (a done deal) and had to fend off protests by many of his supporters while trying to fight the general election which was unfortunate.
If not for voter suppression, broken machines, hacking, etc. Hillary Clinton would have finished the GE with way more than 3,000,000 votes ahead of Donald Trump, and would be POTUS right now. Of course Russia helped keep her from victory, and make no mistake about it--Russia's fake news and nasty memes against Hillary Clinton helped Bernie Sanders, too.
Russian interference should be what all of us stand against. We need to stop playing favorites (one Dem won the Primary) and stand united against Russia and the Republicans.

[Ninsianna]

164. You're not allowed to say these things here. As you can see by this thread

one must not tell truths. I'd suggest you delete because the only side of the "many sides" will be seeking to punish you.

[melman]

167. Oh I see where the toxicity comes from

I certainly do see that.

[Ninsianna]

169. I daresay you see the source daily.

Admitting it, on the other hand, that's a whole other thing.

[R B Garr]

140. Hilary was on AMJoy yesterday for about an hour -- LOTS of comments about white supremacy

and all the racism Trump has dredged up, so it was a topic of discussion at length for her, at least the racial inequality aspect was.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

141. Great. Glad to hear it.

[R B Garr]

142. Nancy Pelosi on Meet the Press yesterday was asked about it

It's not unusual for politicians to be asked about current events, so it's not a huge leap to wonder if Bernie had been asked or commented.

?t=16

[heaven05]

154. the question in OP

has nothing to do with HRC. Just another person. period.

[sharedvalues]

9. Hey EffieBlack, can you tell us what you stand for?

Beyond these kind of questions -- about dems and their allies -- which are fairly lightweight on ideas,
We'd be interested to know what you believe in. What do you care about? What kind of ideas do you stand for?

[EffieBlack]

15. I've been on DU for years. Feel free to go back and read my posts

If you're really interested in knowing what I stand for, try starting there.

[sharedvalues]

22. Yes I am. Constructive positive views are important t

We're all interested in constructive, positive views.

What do we believe in ? What do we stand for?

A bit of negativity is called for every once in a while (e.g. about the RW media), but rarely or never is negativity useful when directed against Dems or their allies.

So yes I am interested in a summary of the things you stand for. It's better to talk about that than what we're both posting about now.

[EffieBlack]

32. That's fair. I can't respond right now

but later will take time to give you a thoughtful answer.

[sharedvalues]

33. Thanks

I fall into the trap of focusing on the negative sometimes and I also try to catch that and think about being positive and my values

[Eliot Rosewater]

125. Some of us, speaking only for myself, dont view all alleged allies the same.

I found your question of effie condescending, by the way.

[sharedvalues]

175. Constructive discussion. Talk about what we stand FOR. Not what we stand AGAINST.

that's the best way to have a constructive discussion.

I'm not always able to do that, but I try.

[George II]

28. From what I can see, you've been here for more than 10 years, not quite a charter member but....

.....longer than many members here (I gotcha by two years BTW!)

[Demsrule86]

107. That is rather an insulting question to ask another Democrat on this site.

[sharedvalues]

174. Just asking for constructive comments rather than negative ones

that's pretty par for the course in normal discussion, right?

[heaven05]

157. I'm sure by asking THE question

her position is stated. Answer her question, that's all that needs to be done here and anyone knows why it is not being done....go EFFIE!!!!! Excellent question on a major topic concerning our racist ameriKKKan culture.......

[berni_mccoy]

10. FFS

[Old Vet]

150. I feel your pain friend, This Bernie/Hilliary bullshit is out of control......

[xor]

163. Exactly what I did.

I don't understand the constant infighting.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

176. It's like "The Song That Never Ends"!!!

[Me.]

13. No He Did Not

[Autumn]

14. Have you said something about Trump's attacks on black athletes today?

Serious question. I assume you have commented on it today but can't find anything. Well other than this post.

[EffieBlack]

17. Yes, I've said plenty about it.

[Autumn]

19. Today? Before this OP asking what Bernie has said? What did Hillary have to say about it today?

[EffieBlack]

21. Yes. My circle is not limited to DU

Not posting on this particular message board does not mean one is silent.

[Autumn]

23. Well I'll for sure take your word for that.

[Eliot Rosewater]

126. Are you calling Effie a liar?

[Me.]

31. Is HRC A Currently Elected Official?

[Autumn]

34. Nice of you to answer for her. She already admitted she has discussed this elswhere.

[Me.]

36. It's Allowed To Reply To Any Post One Pleases

And I chose to respond to that one

[Autumn]

37. Of course, and I'm allowed to tell you how nice you are to answer for her.

[Me.]

39. THank You

[EffieBlack]

38. Not sure why the snark in response to someone's comment

But they're right. While it would be nice if she said something, Hillary is not a government official and she is not presenting herself as a party leader or the voice of the progressive wing of our party.

I believe that race, racism, the plethora of murders of black men and boys at the hands of police officers are just as critical as - if not more crtitical than - the issues that Bernie thinks are deal breakers and I wish he would demonstrate as much interest in and passion about them as he does about the issues he's focusing on. That's not an attack on him (I can't believe I even need to say that, but it is what it is), but he does seem to have a real blind spot about this.

I am surprised he hasn't said anything about this and really thought I just couldn't find it, since it's such a big deal - Twitter's been blowing up all day, it's led all the news shows and just look at the DU board, which is full of comments - and it would be no skin off of his nose, even if he's busy with debate prep, to condemn Trump's comments and/or to support the African-American athletes who are under attack.

[Autumn]

43. So you couldn't find out anything in your "other circles" and come here to ask.

And of course had he said anything people here would be complaining about him taking the focus off the protest. Know what I mean? I'm sure you do. Either one will do.

[EffieBlack]

48. No, I didn't see anything, but I know people on DU are well-versed

on all things Bernie, so I asked the question here, figuring that if he did comment, someone would be able to point me to it quickly. But the over-the-top, defensive and downright hostile responses from you and others to a very simple question was unexpected and unwarranted, but very telling.

[Autumn]

49. Hostility doesn't run rampant on one side. Google works great.

[NastyRiffraff]

134. Why the hostility?

Be careful, your hatred is showing. Clearly.

[Me.]

71. So Now You're Responding For Me. Effie

Love it

[George II]

29. Besides, you're not one of top officials from our Government.

[Me.]

72. Nor Is She Senator Sanders

[EffieBlack]

75. Do you know that for sure?

[Me.]

78. What I Do Know Is

He's not blond

[heaven05]

114. who's "a top official of our government"

being discussed here? I can't see any top official being discussed, except a top and very respected 'advisor', HRC and a wing/faction leader of our Party.

[pangaia]

42. As I replied to velveteen-- LOL Hallibut !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Autumn]

44. Yeah

[Ninsianna]

95. What's with the personal attacks?

[NurseJackie]

103. Indeed. Yes, plural. I saw also. #Sad

In general, people behave in all sorts of ways (sometimes predictable, sometimes not) whenever their belief system is challenged and they're unable to defend things, or explain things, or justify things. When people demonstrate that type of hostile behavior, it suggests their extreme discomfort, and that discomfort generally means that a nerve has been struck. It's an aggressive form avoidance behavior.


----------
NOTE: These are just my personal observations about human beings and human nature in general. They are my opinions and may be different from other people's opinions. I'm not a psychologist, but after all these years and raising two boys, one picks up on some things that remain generally true and consistent.

[heaven05]

113. true, this

[Eliot Rosewater]

127. I am so fucking SICK of dancing around this issue. While we dance around

the fucking world turns into complete shit, not just USA, the whole human family.

Either we vote for ANY and ALL democrats DEMOCRATS in 2018 or we are all done and done!

[NurseJackie]

131. I hear ya! I'm right there with ya!

I'm sick of it as well.

[ehrnst]

132. Yep. (nt)

[Ninsianna]

139. It's just so irrational. It's not like it's simple enough to say he didn't choose to

weigh in. The abuse is not necessary, but it seems to be the preferred way some choose to act. Not "many" sides at all.

[Jamaal510]

146. +1

[Autumn]

105. A question is a personal attack?

[EffieBlack]

109. LOL!

[Ninsianna]

136. The people attacking the person who asked a simple question are engaging

in personal attacks. She asked a question about what an elected official said, and the response is a pile on and interrogation of what a poster here has said, coupled with mockery, harassment and a great deal of hostility.

When this is the response to a simple question, yes it's a personal attack.

[melman]

148. No

None of that happened at all.

[Ninsianna]

151. I don't understand the purpose of denying what the thread makes blatantly clear

it's exactly what happened. Just read the thread.

[NurseJackie]

160. Clearly, a nerve has been struck.

[melman]

166. Nope

No nerves struck. So sorry.

[NurseJackie]

168. Yep.

Nerves struck all over the place. So funny!

[EffieBlack]

170. Clearly

[melman]

171. No

Clearly not.

[ehrnst]

119. I don't think Effie's a sitting Senator who considers himself to be the

most progressive Senator ever.

[Autumn]

123. We know she isn't a sitting Senator who considers himself to be the most progressive Senator ever.

That we know as an absolute fact.

[EarthFirst]

18. So this is where we're at?

Fucking pathetic!

[George II]

24. Fair question - I've seem similar asked of many other Democrats and prominent Americans.

[ornotna]

25. One more time!

Yay!

[jalan48]

26. I think he's really focused on healthcare right now.

[EffieBlack]

30. Thanks for a straight, non-accusatory answer. That makes sense

Although I do wish he'd say something. I'm really surprised he hasn't yet since it's very important to a lot of people and it wouldn't be a heavy lift for him or a staffer to put out a tweet, even if he's immersed in debate prep.

[melman]

41. It's an accusatory thread

Did you expect people not to notice that?

[EffieBlack]

45. We've reached a point where asking if Sanders has made a comment is "accusatory?"

A little sensitive, aren't we?

A simple answer - either "yes, he did. Here's a link" or one like yours "no, but I think this is why" - was all I was looking for.

[melman]

47. Right

Just asking a question.

[SMC22307]

63. Yes.

Not sensitive in the least, just fully aware of the games played on this site. And "coy" doesn't work on us...

[ehrnst]

121. Yes, asking questions seems to have become "Bashing" when applied

anything that he writes or says, or doesn't.

[George II]

74. How can anyone consider the OP and responses to it "an accusatory thread"?

[SMC22307]

76. This *ain't* our first rodeo, George. (n/t)

[George II]

86. Yes, SMC22307.

[melman]

77. Here's a better question

Why do you expect me to play along with this game?

[George II]

80. You made a judgement about the OP, only fair that you clarify it, don't you think?

And it's not a "game", the future of our country is dead serious.

[melman]

83. No I don't think I need to answer a question

that doesn't need answering. Seriously, why would I play along when I know the question doesn't need answering?

There isn't a single person here that doesn't know the intent of this thread. Not one.

[EffieBlack]

89. You're expending a lot of time and energy responding to a question you insist doesn't need answering

And given that you think you're so certain about what the intent of this thread is, it's pretty funny watching you chase your tail and jump through the hoops you believe I tried to throw up for you. It's particularly amusing to watch since that was not my intention at all - but if it were, I couldn't have achieved a more entertaining result ...

You remind me of a scene in Leave it to Beaver when Wally and the Beav went through a Byzantine series of machinations to make it appear they had taken a bath, when just taking the bath would have been much easier. You've gone through an awful lot of trouble avoiding answering a simple question and casting aspersions on me for asking it and on anyone else who didn't join you in the mudslinging when it would have been so much easier to just answer my question or ignore me altogether. Methinks thou doth protest too much. But unlike you, I don't presume to know your motives. I just know you've given me a good, unexpected laugh this evening. I suspect you don't want my thanks for that, but thanks anyway.

[melman]

90. Wow

I'm devastated. That Wally and the Beav stuff really cuts deep.

[George II]

110. And yet you expect me to do so?

[melman]

117. Rhetorical questions

How do they work?

[heaven05]

158. the intent was to ask

a pretty easy question to answer with a yes or no. No nefarious intent inferred....that I can see. But still no answer from many who like to skirt real issues with non issues.

[melman]

159. Nope

[heaven05]

161. yep nt

[EffieBlack]

82. Here's an even better question

If you don't want to "play along with this game," why did you jump into the thread? If you didn't want to play along, you wouldn't have played along. Or maybe you just can't help being baited - even when no one is trying to bait you ...

[melman]

84. Nope

That's not a better question.

[Ninsianna]

97. Yes, the accusatory folks piling on with the unecessary rudeness are indeed noticeable.

One wonders why the need for the hostility and the personal attacks.

[melman]

98. One wonders indeed

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

50. Yes, and rightfully so... Bernie has his hands full protecting our right to healthcare...

it's okay to cut him a lil slack.

[George II]

85. Objectively and materially, just what has he done to protect our right to healthcare?

We have the ACA, Medicaid, and Medicare. Under the circumstances, that's pretty comprehensive. Not perfect, but along with employer insurance roughly 90% of Americans now have access to healthcare coverage.

There is a bill proposed that may be voted on this week that could eliminate coverage for an estimated 20-30 million Americans. That's almost 10%. Until that bill is defeated ALL efforts should be expended to protect what we have and defeat that bill.

There's plenty of time to propose alternatives to what we have, but many of us don't understand the "urgency" of mucking up the waters by proposing yet another proposal in the face of a serious threat to the ACA.

With the real risk of millions of Americans losing their healthcare coverage, no one should be cut any slack until that risk is eliminated.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

177. Yes... and saving lives should take priority!

[leftstreet]

35. He probably won't make official statements until he's POTUS

[NurseJackie]

51. Probably not.

[Nanjeanne]

52. So sorry today's tweets have been about Puerto Rico, Healthcare and thanking McCain.

But I'm sure that's not good enough. I know you must think highly of Sen Murohy so I checked him. Nope. Just healthcare. Franken? Nope sorry. Just healthcare. Kamala Harris - sorry no. Not even anything about PR.

Anyone else you want to know about? I mean serious question and all. Cause it surely can't be all about Sanders.

[Autumn]

53. The outrage would be epic had Bernie said something about it today.

We all know the pattern.

[Nanjeanne]

55. Oh yeah. He surely would be doing it to

gain attention for himself. Such a showboater.

[EffieBlack]

57. Good Lord! Could you be any more defensive?

Do you have any idea what you sound like?

[Nanjeanne]

59. I think you don't understand the meaning of defensive

But consider your question asked and answered.

[ChubbyStar]

61. But you sound fabulous!

Please continue....

[SMC22307]

65. "Do you have any idea what you sound like?"

Might want to ask that of yourself...

[mythology]

87. They probably sound to you, like you sound to them.

This was clearly an attempt at a gotcha moment. It's sad that neither side seems to be able to let go of the primary.

[EffieBlack]

88. It fascinating that so many of you are so certain of what my motives were in asking a question

And you continue to take veiled but still obvious swipes at my honesty and integrity, suggesting that I am lying or, as you just said, trying to play "gotcha."

Perhaps what I read as defensiveness is really just arrogance combined with cluelessness. But whatever it is, it speaks volumes.

[JI7]

54. Hopefully he is busy preparing for the cnn debate tomorrow

[EffieBlack]

58. I hope he is

But I also hope he can focus on more than one issue at a time - and that an issue that is so important to me and millions of other people doesn't get back-burnered because he has more important things to think about.

[ChubbyStar]

64. Hoping is a very positive thing

[GaryCnf]

70. Yeah

I've noticed all of the pro-Kaepernick posts BEFORE THIS WEEKEND from the folks joining in on this one.

[EffieBlack]

79. Before this weekend, it wasn't considered a political issue and rank and file

Democrats didn't evidence much interest in it. Black folks have been all over this for the last year - but it took Donald Trump injecting himself into it to bring it into the political conversations. And politicians still aren't sure what to say or do about it.

[GaryCnf]

81. Yep

[riderinthestorm]

56. Has Schumer, Pelosi, Harris, Booker, Clinton, Biden, Obama, or Carter?

Personally, I'm pissed Michelle hasn't spoken up yet



Just asking.

[sheshe2]

120. Eric Holder did...

Link to tweet

[sheshe2]

165. Oh!!! Here is Hillary!!!!

In a new interview with Zerlina Maxwell for the "SiriusXM Town Hall," set to stream Monday night, Hillary Clinton responded to both President Donald Trump's attacks on NFL players who choose to kneel during the national anthem and the recent revelations that Jared Kushner used a private email account to conduct White House business. "I think it’s deeply troubling that the president would be attacking black athletes for expressing their opinions peacefully," Clinton said, adding, "I just couldn’t help thinking that he has attacked these black athletes for peacefully protesting, but he doesn’t really attack white supremacists, neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klanners, or Vladimir Putin, who interfered in our election." She said she found the comments particularly disturbing because Trump made his comments during a "desperate" time for the people of Puerto Rico. "I’m not sure he knows that Puerto Ricans are American citizens," Clinton remarked. The former secretary of state also blasted "the hypocrisy of this administration, who knew there was no real scandal," with her private email server, but made it the number one issue of Trump's campaign against her. "It’s just the height of hypocrisy," Clinton said.


**Sirius Live Stream

[Tarheel_Dem]

178. Half the people you listed aren't even elected officials anymore, so what was the point?

[JNelson6563]

66. Oooh. Little transparency heavy.

Clearly this is intentionally divisive. How disappointing. So much unity. There's always someone I guess.

[shanny]

67. Asking for a friend?

[EffieBlack]

68. No. Asking for me. I got my answer

And much more. Thank you.

[ChubbyStar]

69. So happy you are satisfied

I was worried.

[shanny]

73. Me too.

[a la izquierda]

91. Thanks for your post.

Emjnds me exactly why I stay away from here most days.

[Jamaal510]

96. I doubt that very seriously. nt

[SunSeeker]

99. I haven't heard or read anything from him on that. nt

[ProfessorGAC]

101. Willfully Snarky

And it brought out the usual suspects right on cue.

[left-of-center2012]

102. More stirring the pot

[TheCowsCameHome]

104. For some, it never ends.

[left-of-center2012]

112. Internet trolls?

They have no life.

[oberliner]

108. He recently said that Trump has "strong racist tendencies"

For what that is worth.

[Eliot Rosewater]

130. Tendencies?

[LexVegas]

115. White people not gonna like this....

[ehrnst]

122. Yep. (nt)

[MineralMan]

118. I don't think so.

It's not really one of his issues, most likely.

[lame54]

128. I hope not...

Because if he has
That will be the topic of this debate tonight instead of exposing how bad this HC bill really is

[Raster]

129. serious question...

...

[heaven05]

152. no

and no one can answer yes, which has their discomfort levels at an all time high. POC mean very little to a lot of people these days and protests by people of conscience over injustice to POC, even less. Thank you for your revealing question...

[EffieBlack]

172. The discomfort and defensiveness are very interesting, arent they?

[heaven05]

173. why yes, yes it is

and they are stumbling badly.................

[stevenleser]

179. Thats been clear for quite some time

Give some a choice between the rights and indeed the lives of POC vs protecting the reputation of their sacred cow and they will choose the reputation of their sacred cow every time.

Then they will attempt to defend their choice to do the indefensible with personal attacks, deflections and a host of other logical fallacies.

The flailing around in response to this OP is one of the funniest things I have ever seen on DU, or rather it would be if the lives of one of our most vulnerable groups wasn’t being treated this way.

[DLevine]

187. Sacred cow? Seriously?

You think Sanders doesn't care about POC? I know he's been an outspoken supporter of BLM, as are most of his supporters, including myself.

It's one thing to say he should weigh in on this issue, and I agree that he should. I don't agree with any politician 100% of the time. But to say he doesn't care about POC, and to insinuate that those of us who admire Sanders do not care about POC, is divisive bullshit.

[stevenleser]

188. Yes, seriously. All the comments under this OP show how accurate my post was. nt

[riderinthestorm]

180. Dont know don't care. What a shitty divisive thread

You really think Bernie doesnt care!!??

SMDH

[stevenleser]

181. How horrible that we ask if someone has said anything in support of a vulnerable constituency group

You would think this is a Democratic discussion forum or something.

[EffieBlack]

184. Of course we can ask the question

We just can't ask the question about one person in particular.

[stevenleser]

186. Yup, sacred cows and all... nt

[left-of-center2012]

182. Has Bernie said if he prefers strawberry jam to grape jelly?

I'm serious.
I plan to shop tomorrow,
and I wonder where he comes down on this issue.

[dae]

183. It better be Strawberry Jam on biscuits and Grape Jelly on toast or I'll be p o'd.

[melman]

185. I don't know

But if it doesn't it will be very telling. Very telling indeed.

[EffieBlack]

189. He still hasn't said anything about it

So much for the "he's focusing on the debate so he can save Obamacare" justfication.

[melman]

190. I don't recall saying anything like that

Maybe you can point out where I did.

[EffieBlack]

191. I didn't say you said it n/t