A draft dodger questioning other people's patriotism

[workinclasszero]

Really?

Deferments Helped Trump Dodge Vietnam
How the presidential candidate avoided combat


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/trump-draft-deferment

[awesomerwb1]

1. I hope people aren't posting this on Twitter

it may piss Twitler off a little bit.

[workinclasszero]

2. Let's hope not

[raven mad]

17. blush

I done did it....................

[HopeAgain]

3. Draft dodger?

Vietnam was an immoral war and I admire Muhammad Ali for refusing to go. I don't know if people are criticizing Trump for not going to Vietnam or for the fact he found a convenient and questionable way to avoid the draft rather than stand up against it. Maybe it's the hypocrisy.

Just asking, because there were some "draft dodgers" who were moral, correct and admirable during that war.

[workinclasszero]

5. Ali had religious and moral reasons not to go

Do you equate 'patriotic' spoiled rich boy Trump's draft dodging with Ali's reasons not to go?

If so you have a problem.

I was 1A and escaped the draft because the war ended before I was called up. I knew many guys that were not so lucky.

None of them were spoiled rich kids with powerful republican parents. Go figure.

If a person wants to wave the flag in peoples faces he or she at a minimum should be a veteran IMO.

If you love this country so much then PROVE IT dammit!

Then you can talk some shit about other peoples patriotism if you are a big enough ass anyway.

[ExciteBike66]

9. Ali had good reasons, so did everyone else who dodged the draft.

The draft is a form a slavery and it is fine for people who value their own lives to dodge it.

I detest Trump, but it makes no sense to call him out for avoiding a war that was fought so terribly and harmed so many people. We can certainly criticize Trump's patriotism, but I do not think it makes sense to bring up the draft thing.

[tymorial]

6. Yes I find this hypocritical

When conservatives attacked Clinton as a draft Dodger the left was quick and immediate in their condemnation. You are absolutely correct the Vietnam War was immoral and horrible. To now use those same conservative tactics as a political weapon against Trump lacks honor.

[ProfessorGAC]

7. When Did Ali Wrap Himself In The Flag. . .

. . . and then use faux patriotism to denigrate others? He was consistent. The inconsistency is the target of the criticism.

[workinclasszero]

8. Right

[billh58]

13. +100 n/t

[ExciteBike66]

10. All draft dodging is moral, if you consider the draft as a form of slavery. nt

[workinclasszero]

11. Not from a rich prick that decades later

wants to show how fucking patriotic he is compared to other American citizens exercising their right to protest!

Who the fuck got my poor to middle class friends out of the draft?? Nobody that's who! And if the war had not ended when it did I would have went as well.

So you are in agreement that the rich and their children should never have to fight in this nation's wars, let the poor fight and die in place of rich hypocrite bastards like Trump and Rush Limbaugh and pretend to be super patriots later.

Good to know I guess.

The 'volunteer' military is full to the brim with the poor and former middle class caught up in the economic draft so no worries for the well to do now.

[ExciteBike66]

12. You are not understanding my point.

"So you are in agreement that the rich and their children should never have to fight in this nation's wars"

I am in agreement that no one "should have to fight", no matter who their parents are. You seem to be suggesting that I believe poor people "should have to fight", but that is nonsense. Joining the military should be voluntary, of course. Poor people do not have to join the volunteer military.

Trump's current actions are abhorrent, but I cannot criticize his decision to sit out of the Vietnam War, which was a terrible crime based on lies.

[billh58]

14. +100

Well said...

[HopeAgain]

15. I was just asking

because if hypocrisy is the issue, then let's stick to that rather than implying all people who found a way out of going to Vietnam are bad.

That is my only point.

[ExciteBike66]

16. I agree with you. nt

[billh58]

4. The Orange Anus-Mouth

Coward-In- Chief...