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Coventina

(27,101 posts)
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:25 PM Sep 2017

Hoop Earrings and Hate

Pitzer College maintains a free wall where students are invited to paint whatever they would like. A recent critique of white women who wear hoop earrings has attracted far more attention than most writing on the wall -- and the debate has escalated well beyond jewelry.

College officials have seen and are investigating written threats -- including some that could be read as death threats -- against the Latina students who wrote the critique on the wall. And Pitzer's president, Melvin L. Oliver, has issued an open letter condemning "a cycle of violent hate speech that threatens the safety and well-being of every member of our community."

The students, whose identities Pitzer declined to confirm, citing their privacy rights, are fearful for their safety, the college says. But others say Pitzer is unfairly blaming a conservative student newspaper for the students' problems.

Here is how the controversy has played out.

The line that was written on the wall was simple: "White girl, take off your hoops."

After that went up on the wall, students on an all-campus email asked for clarification about what it meant.

Two of the three Latina students who were involved wrote back in other all-campus email messages, in which they explained that they viewed white women wearing hoop earrings as engaging in cultural appropriation, which is when a privileged group adopts part of the culture of an oppressed group and in so doing erases the role of the oppressed group.

read more:

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/03/15/pitzer-students-debate-free-speech-student-safety-and-cultural-appropriation

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Hoop Earrings and Hate (Original Post) Coventina Sep 2017 OP
Oh FFS. nt B2G Sep 2017 #1
Hadn't read enough of article Sugar Smack Sep 2017 #2
There Are Paintings of Pirates From The 17th Century. . . ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #3
How about using words from another language? guillaumeb Sep 2017 #4
Sacre bleu!! Sugar Smack Sep 2017 #20
Clearly guilty. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #26
We've got way worse things to worry about mcar Sep 2017 #5
Now earrings. Okay. bluepen Sep 2017 #6
Somebody's not taking sufficiently marybourg Sep 2017 #7
someone is spending their college years... DBoon Sep 2017 #8
This zipplewrath Sep 2017 #9
I'm a mix burnbaby Sep 2017 #10
I have no idea. I never knew this was a thing until I saw this article. Coventina Sep 2017 #11
You need to determine the mean hoop size of the group you're attempting to appropriate's earing, JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #27
lol burnbaby Sep 2017 #28
This is ridiculous. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #12
Too much attention on the earrings, not enough on the death threats Latina students received ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #13
Agree. The earring issue is silly, but the poor women don't deserve death threats for it. Coventina Sep 2017 #14
Its all good! ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #15
I'd thought the threats the central premise to the article. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #17
it is certainly not a matter of either/or. they can both be wrong. nt TheFrenchRazor Sep 2017 #24
Racism is complicated Not Ruth Sep 2017 #16
mmm - no. You can find plain hoop earrings in renaissance paintings. Even big dangly ones. haele Sep 2017 #18
doesn't matter anyway; there is no such thing as "cultural appropriation." of course death threats TheFrenchRazor Sep 2017 #23
from British Vogue, September 1968. Fashion comes & goes. irisblue Sep 2017 #19
While the earring thing is silly, death threats for it is ridiculous. tammywammy Sep 2017 #21
This happened back in March and I can't find any followup, so petronius Sep 2017 #30
"cultural appropriation" is BS; nobody owns earrings, hairstyles, music, clothing styles, etc. TheFrenchRazor Sep 2017 #22
I guess they appropriated them from 2000BCE Minoans, 1600 BCE Greece or from the Ancient Egyptians. TheBlackAdder Sep 2017 #25
kick for the night shift... Coventina Sep 2017 #29
I'm seriously considering a hoop through my septum ProudLib72 Sep 2017 #31

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
3. There Are Paintings of Pirates From The 17th Century. . .
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:33 PM
Sep 2017

. . .wearing hoop earrings. Since the word is EAR-RING it seems like that has been part an parcel of that jewelry for a very long time.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. How about using words from another language?
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:33 PM
Sep 2017

As in:
rodeo
chow mein
kung fu
savoir faire
gesundheit
quid pro quo,

and on and on.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
9. This
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:46 PM
Sep 2017

I have the same thought. Where I went, we didn't have time to get upset about trivial things. The biggest protest was when they closed the library earlier.

 

JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
27. You need to determine the mean hoop size of the group you're attempting to appropriate's earing,
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:39 PM
Sep 2017

and then select a hoop size of approximate ratio for yourself which accurately reflects your mixed heritage percentage to the aggrieved group claiming cultural appropriation.

Next say 10 Hail Marys, 2 Our Fathers, and fast from ethnic food for 1 week.

Then you should be good.

For example: I'm 1/4 Scottish, so I'm permitted to wear a 1/4-length kilt. (wait, that can't be right... )

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
13. Too much attention on the earrings, not enough on the death threats Latina students received
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:57 PM
Sep 2017

For voicing an opinion. In my opinion, of course

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
14. Agree. The earring issue is silly, but the poor women don't deserve death threats for it.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:01 PM
Sep 2017

I am surprised you are the first to point this out.

Clarification: I'm not surprised YOU pointed it out, just surprised it took this long....


edited for sexist language, my bad.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. I'd thought the threats the central premise to the article.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:09 PM
Sep 2017

I'd thought the threats the central premise to the article, but it seems to be consciously ignored so posters can voice a petulant frustration with what was written by a minority, rather than actual threats of violence.

I'm not however, surprised at all by the priority given to the message, but denied or ignored the actual threats themselves.

FFS, indeed.

haele

(12,647 posts)
18. mmm - no. You can find plain hoop earrings in renaissance paintings. Even big dangly ones.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:20 PM
Sep 2017

Hoop earrings were typically used as far back as the Roman and Celtic tribal times to indicate the dower worth of a marriageable/married woman as well as being a handy way to "carry spare cash" that would be a bit more difficult to pick-pocket or drop when out travelling - or to use when out gambling. Most of the larger hoops had drilled gems or pearls added to them, or little gold ornamentation.
Wanted to carry more gold with you or show off more of your wealth when walking out with your buddies out for a night of carouse? You'd wear your bigger hoop(s) along with your chunky rings, heavy necklaces, and armbands/wrist bands, whether you were a guy or gal.

I appreciate the assumption that since hoop earrings apparently went out of fashion in Europe during the late 19th/ early 20th century and only returned during the 60's as part of young civil rights protest groups, big hoops, or multiple large hoops in the ear might be specific to Africa. But ask a history major or an arts major, and you'll be gently corrected.

It's not an appropriation of culture unless your grasp of what culture is only goes back 70 years.

Haele

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
23. doesn't matter anyway; there is no such thing as "cultural appropriation." of course death threats
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:15 PM
Sep 2017

are completely insane and uncalled for, though.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
21. While the earring thing is silly, death threats for it is ridiculous.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:40 PM
Sep 2017

I hope they catch whomever is sending the threats.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
30. This happened back in March and I can't find any followup, so
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 11:48 PM
Sep 2017

it seems that the threateners got away with it. No indication of how thoroughly they were searched for, although I suspect it's difficult to track this sort of thing down...

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
22. "cultural appropriation" is BS; nobody owns earrings, hairstyles, music, clothing styles, etc.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:13 PM
Sep 2017

these individuals need to get over themselves.

TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
25. I guess they appropriated them from 2000BCE Minoans, 1600 BCE Greece or from the Ancient Egyptians.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:42 PM
Sep 2017

.

1600BCE Greece




.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
31. I'm seriously considering a hoop through my septum
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 12:14 AM
Sep 2017

Is it cultural appropriation if I mix New Guinea tribesman with Latina style? If so, whose culture would I actually be appropriating?

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