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Prince Harry goes public with his bi-racial GF..First public event.. (Original Post) HipChick Sep 2017 OP
They've been public for months LittleBlue Sep 2017 #1
...First official event... HipChick Sep 2017 #4
Yeah I know LittleBlue Sep 2017 #8
Since his Dad had a side gal during his entire marriage they really can't judge anymore bettyellen Sep 2017 #7
That's what any logical person would think LittleBlue Sep 2017 #9
Kate's in her third baby, they gotta love that. And that puts Harry at no chance in hell for the bettyellen Sep 2017 #10
I'm certain they do. Harry and Meghan are lucky that William and Kate have 3 kids LittleBlue Sep 2017 #18
Lol why do think the Queen hasn't let herself die yet??? Volaris Sep 2017 #20
First, Meghan Markle is beautiful.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #2
You got THAT right!!!! MyOwnPeace Sep 2017 #5
I think character and ethics often have something to do with it as well. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #6
Not to mention that they seem to love each other. Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #14
There seems to be a real connection between them Sanity Claws Sep 2017 #3
They look happy together. hamsterjill Sep 2017 #11
i dont keep up with the royals..shes american? cool! samnsara Sep 2017 #12
She's an American actor. Orangepeel Sep 2017 #22
who'da thunk it that Harry would grow up to be the handsome one?? samnsara Sep 2017 #13
I know. He really has killer good looks. Ilsa Sep 2017 #16
he's the exact image of his grandfather CatWoman Sep 2017 #17
Story about that Match cover photo: highplainsdem Sep 2017 #19
Wow, he really does! I have never seen a photo of a young Prince Phillip. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #27
My only thoughts... Ilsa Sep 2017 #15
I had similar thought - definitely some beautiful babies they could make. Turn CO Blue Sep 2017 #21
Not true...I have many gingers in my lineage HipChick Sep 2017 #23
Agree harry is very handsome. Wish Diana has been able to see them JI7 Sep 2017 #26
The kids could end up looking like 2 different races JI7 Sep 2017 #28
Very sweet couple! They'll make beautiful babies. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #24
I have seen her on the Craig Ferguson show (haven't seen "Suits") and she was charming. Boomerproud Sep 2017 #25
Why anyone in 2017 cares one bit about Royals is beyond me, but Yupster Sep 2017 #29
Prince Harry sent $100M to help with Harvery relief efforts.. HipChick Sep 2017 #31
Well, I assume she can never be queen anyway, right? Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #30
It's unlikely but not impossible. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #32
I was referring more to her citizenship status... Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #33
Does that mean that Kate Middleton can never be Queen, either? Jim Lane Sep 2017 #34
I think that is true... Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #36
No, I don't think there's anything about 'commoner' status muriel_volestrangler Sep 2017 #37
Not sure of that treestar Sep 2017 #35
 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
1. They've been public for months
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:27 PM
Sep 2017

The tabloids act like this is some new thing. It's just the first time they've appeared at an official event. But there have been photos of them walking around London for months, even ones where she's staying at one of his royal residences.

It will be interesting to see how the public and media reacts to another American divorcee in the royal family. It was pretty dramatic the first time.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
8. Yeah I know
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:34 PM
Sep 2017

It's the first step in introducing her to the British public so that they don't skewer her when the wedding is announced. But they will, they always do.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
9. That's what any logical person would think
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:37 PM
Sep 2017

The royal family is not logical. And the British public can be worse concerning anything royal. Everyone who tries to marry into this family gets questioned and criticized as "not good enough." Even Kate "she's too boring" Middleton.

Hence the gradual revealing of them to the public. To build good PR and soften the criticism. Her being American, biracial and divorced will be made into a big deal, but at least she's not marrying the crown prince so it won't be as bad.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. Kate's in her third baby, they gotta love that. And that puts Harry at no chance in hell for the
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:44 PM
Sep 2017

Crown. I've seen him and Will doing a lot of interviews about some big mental health initiative, of say their mom would be proud. Their dad should just take himself out of the line of succession though.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
18. I'm certain they do. Harry and Meghan are lucky that William and Kate have 3 kids
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:28 PM
Sep 2017

As Harry said, nobody in the family really wants the throne. It still amazes me that the public cares so deeply about Harry's choice. He has near zero chance of ever becoming king, yet some in the public act like an American duchess is the end of the world.

And yeah, Charles should go away. His mother is popular, he's not. Few want him to be king.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. I think character and ethics often have something to do with it as well.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:32 PM
Sep 2017

"Second, that is all that matters..."

I think character and ethics often have something to do with it as well.

Sanity Claws

(21,841 posts)
3. There seems to be a real connection between them
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:29 PM
Sep 2017

When you see some celebrities together, they look as they are posing, that nothing real is going on.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
15. My only thoughts...
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:00 PM
Sep 2017

I hope at least one of their kids is a redhead like daddy. I love the red hair and freckles. But with genetic dominance being what it is, it doesn't seem likely.

Just the same, their kids will be beautiful. I think Harry is the handsomer of the two brothers.

Turn CO Blue

(4,221 posts)
21. I had similar thought - definitely some beautiful babies they could make.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 05:06 PM
Sep 2017

Well, she has freckles herself, and I saw in one photo that Meghan's uncle (on her dad's side) certainly appears to be a redhead with a LOT of freckles so I think she may have a 25% chance of throwing up a recessive. I really don't remember my Biology 101 that well LOL.

Boomerproud

(7,943 posts)
25. I have seen her on the Craig Ferguson show (haven't seen "Suits") and she was charming.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:49 PM
Sep 2017

He father was the lighting director on "Married...With Children" and she said she grew up on the set. I think she has what it takes to navigate the murky waters of both royal family and the pathetic British tabloids. I wish them all the luck in the world.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
29. Why anyone in 2017 cares one bit about Royals is beyond me, but
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:15 PM
Sep 2017

it's the UK's deal so they can have as many Dukes, Duchesses, Ladies, princes and queens all they want without me caring.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
31. Prince Harry sent $100M to help with Harvery relief efforts..
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 09:44 PM
Sep 2017

why he should have cared enough to help out and care about an US issue is beyond me..

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
32. It's unlikely but not impossible.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:57 PM
Sep 2017

Currently, in the line of succession, Harry is fifth, behind his father, his older brother, and his older brother's two children. He would have to outlive all those people plus any of his older brother's additional children (well, actually, only the legitimate children, nudge nudge wink wink), and even any legitimate descendants any of those people have.

Wounded Bear

(58,603 posts)
33. I was referring more to her citizenship status...
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 08:33 AM
Sep 2017

IIRC, only members of the English peerage can ascend to the throne. A commoner who marries into the family is ineligible. So, even if Harry becomes King, his current wife could not technically be queen.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
34. Does that mean that Kate Middleton can never be Queen, either?
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 09:57 AM
Sep 2017

She doesn't bear the horrid taint of being an American. Her marriage made her the Duchess of Cambridge, but she is a commoner by birth.

Wounded Bear

(58,603 posts)
36. I think that is true...
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 10:01 AM
Sep 2017

Much like the current Queen, whose husband is Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh.

https://www.google.com/search?q=queen+elizabeth&oq=queen&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j69i61l2j0l3.5869j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

But we'd have to hear from one of our British compatriots to make a definitive statement.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
37. No, I don't think there's anything about 'commoner' status
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 10:38 AM
Sep 2017

It's certainly not about 'the English peerage', since there was a distinct tendency to marry foreign royalty (that includes Prince Philip, who got that title from his membership of the 'Greek' royal family (Danish by descent, imposed on the Greeks) at birth). I'm not sure there's a precise definition of "the peerage" you could apply for women (who are mostly not allowed to inherit the family titles) anyway. The one rule there was about spouses was they couldn't be Catholic - though that was got rid of in 2013, at the same time as the "sons inherit in preference to daughters" rule. As pointed out here, there is no theoretical reason a monarch's spouse can't be the same sex as them now, too. The reigning monarch does have to approve the marriages of the next 6 in line to the throne.

I expect that if they do get married, Meghan will get British citizenship beforehand, fast-tracked; I don't know if she'd be asked to given up her American citizenship. Peter Philips, the Queen's eldest grandchild (Anne's son) married a Canadian who retained her Canadian citizenship. As far as I know, she didn't add British citizenship, but since Liz is Queen of Canada too, that didn't really matter. She did convert from Catholicism, since their marriage was before the law was changed.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
35. Not sure of that
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 10:01 AM
Sep 2017

maybe her being divorced disqualifies her, but not her being a commoner. This would be a Queen consort, not a Queen regnant.

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