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applegrove

(118,652 posts)
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:26 PM Sep 2017

The CBO Just Crushed What Little Hope Republicans Had Left For Repealing Obamacare

By Jason Easley at Politicus USA

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/25/cbo-crushed-hope-republicans-left-repealing-obamacare.html

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Over the 2017–2026 period, CBO and JCT estimate, the legislation would reduce the on-budget deficit by at least $133 billion, the projected savings from the House-passed reconciliation bill. (The effects on the deficit were estimated relative to CBO’s March 2016 baseline, as has been done for all legislation related to the 2017 budget resolution.) Those savings would occur mainly because, under the legislation, outlays from new block grants between 2020 and 2026 would be smaller than the reduction in net federal subsidies for health insurance. Funding would shift away from states that expanded eligibility for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and toward states that did not.

The number of people with comprehensive health insurance that covers high-cost medical events would be reduced by millions compared with the baseline projections for each year during the decade, CBO and JCT estimate. That number could vary widely depending on how states implemented the legislation, although the direction of the effect is clear. The reduction in the number of insured people relative to the number under current law would result from three main causes. First, enrollment in Medicaid would be substantially lower because of large reductions in federal funding for that program. Second, enrollment in nongroup coverage would be lower because of reductions in subsidies for it. Third, enrollment in all types of health insurance would be lower because penalties for not having insurance would be repealed. Those losses in coverage would be partly offset by enrollment in new programs established by states using the block grants and by somewhat higher enrollment in employment-based insurance. Many of the new programs would probably cover people with characteristics similar to those of people made eligible for Medicaid by the ACA.

The decrease in the number of insured people would be particularly large starting in 2020, when the legislation would make major changes to federal funding for Medicaid and the nongroup market. CBO and JCT expect that market disruptions and other implementation problems would accompany the transition to the block grants created by the legislation—despite the availability of funding specifically designated to assist with that transition—given the short time for planning and making changes between now and then.

The bill is terrible, and there are no sweeteners that can convince Republicans like McCain, Murkowski, and Collins to support the bill. The legislation screws states that expanded coverage under the ACA, and delays screwing over people in states that didn’t expand coverage. Graham-Cassidy was already on life support, and this CBO score should give at least three Republican Senators what they needed to pull the plug.


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The CBO Just Crushed What Little Hope Republicans Had Left For Repealing Obamacare (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2017 OP
I love the sweet taste of GOP tears. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #1
Let's hope we're savoring them later tonight, for the next week. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #9
Fingers crossed. n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #2
Piece of crap legislation underpants Sep 2017 #3
Collins just said she will vote NO but I am not resting BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #4
Agree. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #6
OMG, so much this! Keep calling people! Ninsianna Sep 2017 #8
You nuts? They'll keep trying to bribe the holdouts Warpy Sep 2017 #5
It might be unconstitutional to offer special treatment to some states The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #10
It was also unconstitutional for them to deny a hearing and a vote to Merrick Garland Warpy Sep 2017 #11
Good, now we don't have to worry so much about the debate tonight. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #7
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2017 #12

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
9. Let's hope we're savoring them later tonight, for the next week.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:38 PM
Sep 2017

They still have a chance, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
4. Collins just said she will vote NO but I am not resting
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:30 PM
Sep 2017

until Oct 1st since I NEVER trust the GOP. They will be buying votes until Sat so stay vigilant and keep calling. This happened in the House. We thought it was dead and came right back again!

(202) 224-3121 THANKS!

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
5. You nuts? They'll keep trying to bribe the holdouts
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:34 PM
Sep 2017

with everything they can think of. We know Collins means what she says. The other 3 are pretty wobbly.

They have Koch brothers to please so their wallets will open wide, once again.

That's what this is about, money, lots of money. They don't give a fuck about us and never did and it's high time Republicans woke the fuck up about that.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
10. It might be unconstitutional to offer special treatment to some states
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:44 PM
Sep 2017

and not others.

Graham’s bill gives Alaska especially generous treatment. Haley Byrd reports that Republicans are offering an even more magnanimous bargain — a complete exemption from the deep cuts to Medicaid and tax credits that other states will suffer. Juliet Eilperin reports that the exemption from the cuts would apply to Alaska and Montana only — the two states would qualify on the basis of their low population density. Obamacare would be repealed in the other states, but suspiciously live on in a state whose vote Republican need really badly.

Aside from both the political ethics in general and what this reveals about the Republican argument about repealing Obamacare in particular (i.e., it exposes the notion that other states will be unharmed by its cuts), this maneuver may well be unconstitutional.

Georgetown law professor Brian Galle explains that the Constitution has a uniformity clause — Article I, section 8 of the Constitution says “all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.” The purpose of the clause is to prevent coalitions of states from ganging up on others to impose discriminatory treatment.

The clause has not been tested before, but that is only because there are few cases in which the people running the government have passed a law so blatantly discriminatory.


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/09/repealing-obamacare-for-49-states-probably-unconstitutional.html

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
11. It was also unconstitutional for them to deny a hearing and a vote to Merrick Garland
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:32 PM
Sep 2017

and substitute Gorsuch a year later.

Remember, the constitution is just a piece of paper to them. They and their billionaire masters aren't bound by it.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
7. Good, now we don't have to worry so much about the debate tonight.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:37 PM
Sep 2017

Nothing is for certain until there is a vote or they scrub the bill entirely.

Klobuchar is well armed, hopefully someone is teaching Sanders some debate tips too.

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