I wonder if this will lead to the NFL not playing the anthem at games anymore.

[Ken Burch]

I could live with that...there's really no reason the anthem HAS to be played...I'd personally favor replacing it with a medley of the "SpongeBob Squarepants" theme and "The Happy Happy Joy Joy Song" from Ren and Stimpy.

That medley could be used for Olympic medal ceremonies as well.

[LeftInTX]

1. No...it is ingrained everywhere..peewee leagues included

[question everything]

2. I thought that it started in 2009 when the DoD, or the Homeland

was looking to recruit among the players. Or something like that..

[LeftInTX]

4. No...

We used to sing it and then shout, "Play ball!!" because that is what happened after the Star Spangled Banner was sung. This was in the 1960s.

[question everything]

25. I recently read an oped saying that many think that this is how the national anthem ends

Play ball

[Girard442]

7. It's been a tradition at baseball games forever.

Singing the anthem at baseball games was innocuous fun until we got all Klingon about it.

[GusBob]

9. The players were not on the field for the NA prior to 2009

Is what I have heard.

[Wellstone ruled]

10. So true.

believe it was a deal between the NFL and the Department of Defense as a recruiting tool to have the Players on the field for the Anthem.

[EffieBlack]

17. For which the NFL received millions of dollars

I wonder how much of that was split with the players ...

Just joking. I don't wonder at all

[Wellstone ruled]

18. Heard 9 mil.

Most likely went into general operations fund. Goddell makes how many million?

[Angleae]

23. Not entirely true. They weren't required to be but were allowed to be on the field.

Apparently it was up to the team's discretion.

http://www.snopes.com/nfl-sideline-anthem/

[JoeStuckInOH]

32. I played NCAA football (prior to 2009), and we were always on the field for the NA.

I can't imagine why most pro teams weren't doing that given the NCAA was doing it.
Best pump-up song I can think of right before kickoff.

[lunasun]

3. That would be great but I heard they get paid to play it. Is that true?

[WinkyDink]

6. Paid by whom?

[lunasun]

11. OH I guess it's they pay the NFL to have the players come out and stand for the anthem. My bad

I guess they have always played the anthem but before 2009 players remained in the locker room til it was over. sorry I got confused but why not go back to that pre 2009'and ditch the whole team coming out ? Must get paid well by the military
https://lawnewz.com/high-profile/heres-what-should-really-outrage-you-about-the-nfl-the-national-anthem/

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

20. Who is the they in this case?

[lunasun]

24. Read the link in my reply DOD,Ntl guard

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https://lawnewz.com/high-profile/heres-what-should-really-outrage-you-about-the-nfl-the-national-anthem/
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029636463

[question everything]

28. fascinating. Thanks (nt)

[prayin4rain]

42. That really adds another dimension of f*cked up to this debacle. nt

[yortsed snacilbuper]

5. As long as they don't start praying,

I don't care what they do.

[mountain grammy]

34. NASCAR

Praise JEEEEZUS and start your engines.

[LiberalFighter]

8. I do hope so. The flag and National Anthem has no place in sporting events.

IMO

The Olympics IS about country.

[MontanaMama]

33. I am with you on this.

I find it flat out annoying to have the flag and anthem at sporting events...never understood it. Further, since 9/11 the majority of pro baseball teams have replaced the 7th inning stretch with God Bless America. Silly with so many pro baseball players being from other countries. The 7th inning is for putting your arm around your fellow fans and belting out Take Me Out To The Ball Game. Glad I'm a Cubs fan and the tradition of singing the stretch is written in stone. Yes, the Olympics is about country.

[bettyellen]

40. It makes leisurely dudes feel like they are "doing something" besides getting drunk, gambling and

Pigging out.

[Grassy Knoll]

12. Military Recruiting Should Stick To NASCAR...

...To Recruit The Gung Ho, Kill Kill Bang Bang Idiots.

[Ken Burch]

14. They could have a Demolition Derby Brigade.

The tough part would be training them to smash the ENEMY'S cars, in stead of just each other's.

[Grassy Knoll]

15. Yes, You Can Bring A Horse To Water....

...

[ProudLib72]

13. I'm all for "Pop Goes the Weasel"

And animation on the big screen of Mueller bashing Dotard with indictment after indictment.

[Ken Burch]

41. Or maybe "The Hokey Pokey".

imagine 60,000 people doing that while trying to keep one hand on their chests.

[sarisataka]

16. Not to be a wet blanket

but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[tblue37]

19. One can only hope. nt

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

21. Let's review the 14 defining characteristics of fascism.

The first one is constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere.

I will say that the Anthem before ball games is right up there with the Pledge of Allegiance at every assembly of any kind.

It seems that we are being required to prove over and over that we are patriotic Americans.

[burrowowl]

22. In other countries anthems are only played

when the other team is not of the same nation, why on our on silent do we play it?

[question everything]

30. I think that the British anthem is played in theaters before the performance starts

at least, they used to.

We were subscribers to the local orchestra and it was the very first performance. And here jumped the conductor and... yes, they played the national anthem. Completely surprise. At least, this was in 1978, don't know if they still do. Probably.'

[Ken Burch]

43. Reminds me of a scene from the movie "An Everlasting Piece"

It's a comedy set in Belfast during The Troubles that involves a partnership in a toupee business between two barbers, one Catholic, one Protestant-or one pro-Irish and one pro-British, depending on how you look at it.

The Catholic barber and his girlfriend are at a movie. At the end of the movie, "God Save The Queen" starts playing. The barber is not in a mood to hear it, so he and his girlfriend get up to leave. Two huge pro-British dudes block his way-the barber is a scrawny little guy-and, in a threatening manner, say "face the music, Paddy!". After they repeat that two or three times, and it becomes clear that the barber is going to get the absolute crap kicked out of him unless he complies, the barber turns around, terrified and humiliated, his face twitching with rage.

[cwydro]

26. Or they can keep playing it.

Simply keep the players in the locker room until it's over.

[ProfessorGAC]

27. Third Option

If it's that important to have everyone show respect, close the concession stands during the anthem.

Yeah, that'll go over just great!

[ExciteBike66]

29. And the bathrooms! Kick everyone out who is already in there too! ;) nt

[ProfessorGAC]

37. Works For Me!

Just like North Korea, right?

[guillaumeb]

31. All about advertising the military and promoting war.

My view. And team sports are warlike by nature.

[stopbush]

35. I wish the Yankees would get rid of Gawd Bless aMURK-ah during the 7th-inning stretch

and go back to Take Me Out To The Ball Game, the way nature intended. Hate that fucking song.

[Not Ruth]

36. I nominate Creep by Radiohead as the new NFL song, a beautiful song when done acoustically

When you were here before
Couldn't look you in the eye
You're just like an angel
Your skin makes me cry
You float like a feather
In a beautiful world
And I wish I was special
You're so fuckin' special
But I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo.
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here.
I don't care if it hurts
I want to have control
I want a perfect body
I want a perfect soul
I want you to notice
When I'm not around
You're so fuckin' special
I wish I was special
But I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo.
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here.
She's running out again,
She's running out
She's run run run run
Whatever makes you happy
Whatever you want
You're so fuckin' special
I wish I was special
But I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo,
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here.
I don't belong here.

[pangaia]

38. I'm all for that.

But I would replace it with THIS!!!.

Shostakovich- 7 Gergiev and Mariinsky

Oh yeah, THIS will get those drunk Nazis riled up...

&t=4s

[stopbush]

39. As Aaron Rogers noted, fans at last nights game showed their respect

for the national anthem by yelling at the players to put their hands over the hearts as the anthem was sung.

Some respect, right? Yelling.

And, of course, they did the mid-anthem cheering thingee when a few fireworks were set off at “the rockets red glare.” Another GREAT way to show respect for the anthem. Followed by the obligatory cheering at the end before the final words of the anthem have been sung.

All very respectful.

BTW - we have one of the crappiest national anthems. I’d prefer “America, the Beautiful” if we could get rid of its mention of the imaginary supernatural being.