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This woman says people are bagging their dead in garbage bags (Original Post) LuckyCharms Sep 2017 OP
she is right bdamomma Sep 2017 #1
This is attempted genocide. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #3
She said something about the US needing Doreen Sep 2017 #2
Might be referring to the Jones act, which prohibits non-US flagged LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #7
That's it exactly. Foreign ships have to go to a US port and unload cargo to a US ship... brush Sep 2017 #18
Jones Act waived . . . Petrushka Sep 2017 #28
OK, it looks like if foreign ships want to go to Puerto Rico LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #9
The tariff might be cost prohibitive, LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #10
This is insane. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #20
In other words they are knowingly killing people because of greed....again. Doreen Sep 2017 #11
Yes. It seems like the Jones Act is too much of a hoop to jump through LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #12
No, you are wrong. Satan is nicer. Doreen Sep 2017 #13
You are right. I'm told Satan can at least appear to be kind. n/t LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #14
Yup Doreen Sep 2017 #17
I truly can't comprehend how/why Docreed2003 Sep 2017 #27
Jones Act waived . . . Petrushka Sep 2017 #29
Saw that...thanks! Docreed2003 Sep 2017 #32
They've been doing that for centuries malaise Sep 2017 #30
Like I said, "again." Doreen Sep 2017 #34
Christ that's like the Spanish Empire... a la izquierda Sep 2017 #26
Drumpf is guilty of manslaughter Takket Sep 2017 #4
He and his admin have blood on their hands.. HipChick Sep 2017 #6
This is worse than Katrina BainsBane Sep 2017 #5
Yes it is worse. LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #15
I just gave a donation bdamomma Sep 2017 #8
Why isn't the media talking about this like they did Katrina? In so many ways it is worse because onecaliberal Sep 2017 #16
The media has dropped the ball bigtime. BadgerMom Sep 2017 #19
CNN has seven reporters there. cwydro Sep 2017 #21
Good. I'm glad I've just missed coverage. BadgerMom Sep 2017 #22
PBS and NPR have a reporter there. PBS Newshour did a 10 minute segment on Puerto Rico yesterday: mucifer Sep 2017 #23
Thanks for the clip. BadgerMom Sep 2017 #25
It's so ridiculous. onecaliberal Sep 2017 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author xor Sep 2017 #24
There are no words malaise Sep 2017 #31

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. This is attempted genocide.
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:06 PM
Sep 2017

If we had a working Congress, there would be instant investigations about who is not doing their job.
gonna go and send a tweet to my Congress guys, but, this being Ala.....

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
2. She said something about the US needing
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:04 PM
Sep 2017

to allow foreign countries to help. What does that mean? Is our country not allowing other countries to help?

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
7. Might be referring to the Jones act, which prohibits non-US flagged
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:10 PM
Sep 2017

ships to move goods between US ports, but I am unclear if this act prevents foreign ships from going directly to Puerto Rico.

brush

(53,764 posts)
18. That's it exactly. Foreign ships have to go to a US port and unload cargo to a US ship...
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:44 AM
Sep 2017

which then has to head to PR.

trump is still deciding whether he will suspend the Jones Act.

Meanwhile in PR they are bagging their dead in garbage bags.

Hope the fools who vote for the incompetent orange clown regret it for the rest of their dumb fucking lives.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
9. OK, it looks like if foreign ships want to go to Puerto Rico
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:14 PM
Sep 2017

they have 2 options.

1) Go directly to San Juan and pay a large tarrif, or

2) Go to the US mainland, offload onto a US flagged ship, which then goes to Puerto Rico.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
10. The tariff might be cost prohibitive,
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:21 PM
Sep 2017

and going to the US mainland and offloading would take too long.

This is why the Jones Act needs to be suspended...so they can get the help they need from foreign countries.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
12. Yes. It seems like the Jones Act is too much of a hoop to jump through
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:29 PM
Sep 2017

to get goods to PR in time. This is why it needs to be suspended. Trump said today that there are shippers who don't want the act suspended for PR, even though he suspended it for Houston and Florida.

He's Satan.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
27. I truly can't comprehend how/why
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:03 AM
Sep 2017

Trump would not suspend the Jones Act for PR! His whole BS spiel regarding PR was that we couldn't "drive trucks" there like in TX and FL. That's leaves the water and the air so why deliberately hinder relief efforts by refusing to lift a finger, when you had no problem doing so for states that trucks could get to? It reeks of deliberate obstinance on the part of Trump.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
15. Yes it is worse.
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:35 PM
Sep 2017

And the next stage will be desperate people killing each other in the streets in order to obtain resources.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
8. I just gave a donation
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:11 PM
Sep 2017

on the gofundme site.

these people are Americans period, give whatever you can. Fuck Ryan and the GOP.

onecaliberal

(32,816 posts)
16. Why isn't the media talking about this like they did Katrina? In so many ways it is worse because
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:43 PM
Sep 2017

So many have been without food and water for a much longer period and the people in hospitals that were critical have died. Dump and republicans do not seem to care if thousands are dying with no real hope in sight.

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
19. The media has dropped the ball bigtime.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 01:32 AM
Sep 2017

I want Anderson Cooper in waders in the streets of San Juan. I want the evening news anchors reporting from Puerto Rico. I want someone from Today, GMA and the CBS morning show on island.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
21. CNN has seven reporters there.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 03:36 AM
Sep 2017

I've seen Lester Holt there.

I've seen tons of coverage on this story so I'm not sure how you're missing it.

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
22. Good. I'm glad I've just missed coverage.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 04:24 AM
Sep 2017

I tuned in to CNN today in the early afternoon. I don't ordinarily watch news in the middle of the day unless there's an emergency story. I usually tune in to MSNBC rather than CNN. There was no coverage when I checked in the afternoon. I forget what anchor had the first show, but it was followed by Wolf Blitzer who was in-studio. As he began, he introduced a panel to discuss the new tax plan.

On MSNBC, there has been coverage but it's been done by local and/or lesser known reporters. I haven't seen reporting by Lester Holt but, again, I'm glad he's there.

My memories after Katrina were of almost non-stop coverage. Anderson Cooper was there in waders. I believe Brian Williams was as well. I don't think Puerto Rico has been ignored completely, but I think the reporting has been less intense and generally left to reporters with less star power. More recognizable faces draw more attention.

mucifer

(23,524 posts)
23. PBS and NPR have a reporter there. PBS Newshour did a 10 minute segment on Puerto Rico yesterday:
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 04:24 AM
Sep 2017


The reporter is 3 minutes into the video about post hurricane Puerto Rico. She has gotten out of San Juan to interview people. She looks very upset about the lack of supplies. She is trying her best to look professional. My question is how can the reporter get around to interview people in areas where they aren't sending water and people are drinking non potable water? WTF???? If she can get out there why the hell can't military vehicles?? We all know why.

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