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orangecrush

(19,553 posts)
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 11:50 AM Sep 2017

"There are no more opponents of Putin's course"

Last edited Thu Sep 28, 2017, 05:27 PM - Edit history (1)

"There are no more opponents of Putin's course and, if there are, they are mentally ill and need to be sent off for clinical examination. Putin is everywhere, Putin is everything, Putin is absolute, and Putin is indispensable"

-Aleksandr Dugin

When Hillary Clinton was SoS, this is the bastard whose strategy she was up against.


"Dugin is seen as an author of Putin's initiative for the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation. He considered the war between Russia and Ukraine to be inevitable and appealed for Putin to start military intervention in eastern Ukraine. Dugin said, "The Russian Renaissance can only stop by Kiev."

Dugin's weaponized fake news -

"In the 2014 article by Dmitry Bykov "Why TV, Alexander Dugin and Galina Pyshnyak crucified a boy", Channel One Russia's use of the aired story by Dugin and Pyshnyak about the allegedly crucified boy as a pretext for escalating the conflict was compared to the case of Beilis. On 9 July 2014, Dugin on his Facebook account wrote a story that a 6 year old child was allegedly nailed down to an advertisement board and shot to death before his father's eyes. On 16 July 2014, Novaya Gazeta provided a videotape of its correspondent Eugen Feldman walking along the main square in Sloviansk, asking local old women if they had heard of the murder of the child. They said such an event did not take place. The website Change.org hosted a petition of citizens who demanded "a comprehensive investigation with identification for all persons involved in the fabrication of the plot.""

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin




And by "Liberalism", he means our Constitutional frame of government and society, not the way conservatives intentionally misinterpret the word.

We are facing a monster chameleon that is neither left nor right, but will put on the mask of either to further it's aims.

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"There are no more opponents of Putin's course" (Original Post) orangecrush Sep 2017 OP
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There are a lot of figures in and around the Russian government who take Dugin very seriously. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2017 #2
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Uh.. welcome to DU annabanana Sep 2017 #4
Enquiring minds orangecrush Sep 2017 #6
It feels just like good old times at DU again. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2017 #8
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Oh we've "figured you out" alright Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #11
"Crazy Youtube Jockeys", as you put it, don't usually find themselves on US Sanctions lists. nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2017 #7
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I'm afraid orangecrush Sep 2017 #14
Quite so orangecrush Sep 2017 #5
I'm confused. How is ALEKS (at the link you posted) realted to Putin and/or Dugin? Petrushka Sep 2017 #12
Fixed it! orangecrush Sep 2017 #13
Dziękuję---i jeśli napoje są w domu, okrzyki! Petrushka Sep 2017 #18
Got it!!!! orangecrush Sep 2017 #19
Oh, and guess who endorsed the fascist creamsicle? orangecrush Sep 2017 #15
Thank you! I bookmarked the link in Reply #15 and the one in your previous reply to look at later. Petrushka Sep 2017 #21
Thank you! orangecrush Sep 2017 #22
After 10 hours of much-needed sleep, I just opened that weeklystandard link and . . . Petrushka Sep 2017 #24
I'm ready to fall over orangecrush Sep 2017 #25
I looked at that weeklystandard link again and opened the hyperlink for . . . Petrushka Sep 2017 #27
Putin is a Duganist. He's following the blueprints Dugan created to a T. Oneironaut Sep 2017 #16
Exactly orangecrush Sep 2017 #17
Excellent post. BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #26
Snowden was unavailable for comment Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #20
he had orangecrush Sep 2017 #23

Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
2. There are a lot of figures in and around the Russian government who take Dugin very seriously.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 03:05 PM
Sep 2017

He's far from some isolated nutjob. He's a rather influential nutjob.

Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
4. Uh.. welcome to DU
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 04:15 PM
Sep 2017

Your defense of this Russian is intriguing. What, exactly, is the state of the "Russian mainstream"?

Response to annabanana (Reply #4)

Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #7)

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
12. I'm confused. How is ALEKS (at the link you posted) realted to Putin and/or Dugin?
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 05:22 PM
Sep 2017


Edited to add:
What/where/who is the source of the quotations you included in your OP?

orangecrush

(19,553 posts)
13. Fixed it!
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 05:30 PM
Sep 2017

The quotes were from the wiki article on Dugin, I really appreciate you pointing it out!

Not sure what happened there!

And, to our fallen comrade...

За (ваше, твоё здоровье!

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
18. Dziękuję---i jeśli napoje są w domu, okrzyki!
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 05:51 PM
Sep 2017

I did a 2-way through google translate---English to Polish and, then, Polish to English. I'm still laughing at the result.

orangecrush

(19,553 posts)
15. Oh, and guess who endorsed the fascist creamsicle?
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 05:35 PM
Sep 2017

"Aleksandr Dugin, otherwise known as “Putin's Rasputin," has endorsed Donald Trump for president of the United States.

Aleksandr Dugin is a key theorist of the ideological underpinnings of Putinism. His "Eurasianism" seeks to provide a basis for uniting not only Russia, but all the world's anti freedom forces, under Moscow's banner against the West.

What Russia needs, says Dugin, is a "genuine, true, radically revolutionary and consistent, fascist fascism." On the other hand, "Liberalism, is an absolute evil. . . .Only a global crusade against the U.S., the West, globalization, and their political-ideological expression, liberalism, is capable of becoming an adequate response. . . . The American empire should be destroyed."


http://www.weeklystandard.com/putins-rasputin-endorses-trump/article/2001344

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
21. Thank you! I bookmarked the link in Reply #15 and the one in your previous reply to look at later.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 06:01 PM
Sep 2017

I've been in front of the computer screen for too many hours already today. My eyes are screaming for a break and my bottom feels like it's about to give up the ghost! I'll boot 'er up again tomorrow. Hang in there!

'bye!

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
24. After 10 hours of much-needed sleep, I just opened that weeklystandard link and . . .
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 01:20 PM
Sep 2017

. . . holy Moses! I feel like I'm about to tumble down a rabbit-hole . . . more links! . . . and links within links!

And, as if that isn't enough to keep an olde biddy busy and off the streets, I ordered Putin vs Putin: Vladimir Putin Viewed from the Right which caught my attention somewhere or other in the past couple days of being side-tracked from whatever it was I initially came online to do.

Ultimately, after more than four score years, this internet is proving to enable some pretty good exercise for the thought processes . . . if not the bodily functions.



orangecrush

(19,553 posts)
25. I'm ready to fall over
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 01:57 PM
Sep 2017

Not much sleep last night...

Glad you are having fun and learning at the same time, it keeps me going to!


Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
27. I looked at that weeklystandard link again and opened the hyperlink for . . .
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 04:38 PM
Sep 2017

. . . the Katehon think tank wherein Dugin's endorsement of Trump appeared. Anyway . . .

I did a little bit of nosing around that think tank, took a peek at the "About us" page, and found the Supervisory Bord members---but, other than the Board members' photos and names, there's no background information "about" any of them. http://katehon.com/about-us

Having received Dugin's Putin vs Putin book yesterday---thanks to my daughter's Amazon Prime account---I checked the index to see if any of that think tank's Supervisory Board members were listed in the index and found only one: Sergey Glaziev. A footnote on page 53 of Dugin's book says: "Sergei Glaziev (b.1961) was one of the co-founders of the Rodina party. He currently works as an aide to Putin for the development of the Customs Union." So, now . . .

Questions, and more questions: Rodina party? Customs Union? And, for that matter: Katehon?? That word is one letter short of being "katechon" . . . and---of all things!--- "katechon" appears twice in the P vs P index! Curiouser and curiouser. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katechon









Hope you took time to get some rest, orangecrush. Resisting the temptation to boot 'er up late last night, I decided it was more important to my physical and mental health to get another night's sleep.


Oneironaut

(5,494 posts)
16. Putin is a Duganist. He's following the blueprints Dugan created to a T.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 05:35 PM
Sep 2017

Putin wants Civil War in the US. He wants us to violently fight Republicans, races to despise each other, and extremists to rise to power in our country. He's an IRL version of Littlefinger.

Republicans are on our side. We disagree with them, if not loathe some of them, but we can never raise guns st each other again. That's what Dugan and Putin want. They want to divide and conquer us, just like they're doing in the EU.

orangecrush

(19,553 posts)
17. Exactly
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 05:50 PM
Sep 2017

They are trying like hell, but this is still America, and many are starting to feel like something isn't right with all of this.

I observed it in a gathering of different ages, races, political views, vets, etc. watching the NFL games Sunday.

Just about everyone agreed the purpose of Trumps interference in the NFL was to stir up shit, and no one likes it.

It's instinctual, imo.




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