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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 06:54 PM Sep 2017

Tesla Sends Hundreds of Batteries to Puerto Rico

Tesla is sending its Powerwall system to Puerto Rico as the island deals with widespread power loss in the wake of Hurricane Maria.

According to Electrek, the company has been quietly shipping hundreds of battery packs to be paired with solar panels to Puerto Rico ever since the storm cleared.

Fortune reported that Tesla employees are currently on the U.S. territory installing the batteries and repairing solar systems, as well as coordinating efforts with local organizations.


Much of the island's 3.4 million American citizens are currently without power and disconnected from modes of communication. Officials estimate that some areas will not see their power restored for months. As Climate Nexus pointed out, "the future of the island's bankrupt and corrupt utility and its fossil-fuel-heavy colonial legacy are now top of mind as experts and officials begin to tackle the best way to restore power and rebuild the island's power grid."

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Tesla Sends Hundreds of Batteries to Puerto Rico (Original Post) n2doc Sep 2017 OP
Solar would be perfect for Puerto Rico to have all over with much less fossil fuel generation. Dustlawyer Sep 2017 #1
Now here's an idea......complete solar on the Island, and they sell energy to the mainland!!!!! a kennedy Sep 2017 #4
Elon Musk has a team over there now so I am sure they will do it. Dustlawyer Sep 2017 #21
How would they hurricane-proof that? bluepen Sep 2017 #17
Europe buries power lines Nevernose Sep 2017 #18
Theres also the issue of digging on an island. bluepen Sep 2017 #20
They can disconnect and take them down if there is enough time. Dustlawyer Sep 2017 #22
Off to the greatest page malaise Sep 2017 #2
Of course they are, they are patriots and humanitarians. Elon personally is probably Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #3
Puerto Rico eliminates climate change- 2019 headline Not Ruth Sep 2017 #5
I'm so used to the unending crook and grifter news out of Trumpville that... bagelsforbreakfast Sep 2017 #6
Elon is South African not American Not Ruth Sep 2017 #7
Wrong. You got it one-third right. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #9
Now that is a creative and positive way to address the current crisis and develop a system better suffragette Sep 2017 #8
MSNBC Chris Hayes just spoke with former D-FL senator BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #10
I thought what he promised was to increase coal production arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #12
I thought that was current D-FL Senator Bill Nelson Chris Hayes was speaking to? csziggy Sep 2017 #14
Oh, I missed the beginning and read the bottom caption BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #15
I hope remains our senator - the RNC is bankrolling Rick Scott big time to run against Nelson csziggy Sep 2017 #16
I am in the same position for the same reason. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #19
I'm getting a new aortic valve csziggy Sep 2017 #23
I have a silver plan with ACA and my costs for BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #24
Yeah - with the Republicans in charge nothing will get better csziggy Sep 2017 #25
Plenty of sunshine in PR they should go totally solar. YOHABLO Sep 2017 #11
What a marketing coup. rickford66 Sep 2017 #13

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
1. Solar would be perfect for Puerto Rico to have all over with much less fossil fuel generation.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 07:06 PM
Sep 2017

An island close to the equator is a no brainer and a great test of what solar can do for all of us!

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
4. Now here's an idea......complete solar on the Island, and they sell energy to the mainland!!!!!
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 07:16 PM
Sep 2017

A W E S O M E......they'd repay the debt they owe AND become self sufficient AND MAKE MONEY AS WELL. I see a win, win or them. Now, how do we get this baby off and running??

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
21. Elon Musk has a team over there now so I am sure they will do it.
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 09:09 AM
Sep 2017

Elon has the can do American spirit for sure!

bluepen

(620 posts)
17. How would they hurricane-proof that?
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 10:05 PM
Sep 2017

And do you mean solar panels on every structure or solar plants that distribute power? (80% of their power lines are down.)

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
18. Europe buries power lines
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 10:22 PM
Sep 2017

Or tries to, whenever feasible. But that's the catch, isn't it? That costs a lot of money upfront, arguably the thing Puerto Rico has the least of. Naturally, hiring a bunch of people to spend years burying the lines would do wonders for the island's economy, but 90% of our D.C. politicians don't give a shit about a colony that's not generating money for the empire or is strategically vital in intimidating someone else's empire.

Power line issues aside, I wonder if there's not some way of replacing centralized fossil fuel plants with centralize solar, like Ivanpah, which could be made much less vulnerable to hurricanes. Offshore wind farms, too. Again the issue is upfront money. Long term it saves an island nation from having to import fuel and saves far more money than it costs, but they're already so far in the hole (and poor besides) that most companies aren't going to invest under any circumstances.

bluepen

(620 posts)
20. Theres also the issue of digging on an island.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 11:11 PM
Sep 2017

Specifically where it can and can’t be done. I live on a barrier island. There’s almost nothing underground here because you don’t have to dig far to hit water.

Also have to take into consideration how expensive it is to maintain underground lines. That’s what’s keeping a lot of Florida from doing it.

Complicated issue. They’ll just put the lines back up.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
22. They can disconnect and take them down if there is enough time.
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 09:11 AM
Sep 2017

They unbolt and disconnect pretty easy and the frames would be ok. The panels are rated to 125 mph if installed correctly.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
3. Of course they are, they are patriots and humanitarians. Elon personally is probably
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 07:12 PM
Sep 2017

sending millions to all hurricane victims everywhere and insists that it be anonymous.

 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
6. I'm so used to the unending crook and grifter news out of Trumpville that...
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 07:30 PM
Sep 2017

this is a PLEASANT REMINDER of what American and Americans can be.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
9. Wrong. You got it one-third right.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 08:19 PM
Sep 2017

Elon Musk is a South African born Canadian and American citizen.

Early childhood

Musk was born on June 28, 1971, in Pretoria, Transvaal, South Africa,[29] the son of Maye Musk (née Haldeman), a model and dietician from Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada;[30] and Errol Musk, a South African electromechanical engineer, pilot and sailor. He has a younger brother, Kimbal (born 1972), and a younger sister, Tosca (born 1974).[34] His paternal grandmother was British, and he also has Pennsylvania Dutch ancestry.[35][36] His maternal grandfather was American, from Minnesota.[37] After his parents divorced in 1980, Musk lived mostly with his father in the suburbs of Pretoria.[35]

During his childhood he was an avid reader.[38] At age 10, he developed an interest in computing with the Commodore VIC-20.[39] He taught himself computer programming at the age of 12, sold the code for a BASIC-based video game he created called Blastar, to a magazine called PC and Office Technology, for approximately $500.[40][41] A web version of the game is available online.[40][42]

Musk was severely bullied throughout his childhood, and was once hospitalized when a group of boys threw him down a flight of stairs and then beat him until he lost consciousness.[38]

Musk was initially educated at private schools, attending the English-speaking Waterkloof House Preparatory School. Musk later graduated from Pretoria Boys High School and moved to Canada in June 1989, just before his 18th birthday,[43] after obtaining Canadian citizenship through his Canadian-born mother.[44][45]

Education

At the age of 17, Musk was accepted into Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, for undergraduate study. In 1992, after spending two years at Queen's University, Musk transferred to the University of Pennsylvania, where in May 1997 he received a Bachelor of Science degree in physics from its College of Arts and Sciences, and a Bachelor of Science degree in economics from its Wharton School of Business. Musk extended his studies for one year to finish the second bachelor's degree.[38][46] While at the University of Pennsylvania, Musk and fellow Penn student Adeo Ressi rented a 10-bedroom fraternity house, using it as an unofficial nightclub.[38]

In 1995, at age 24, Musk moved to California to begin a PhD in applied physics and materials science at Stanford University, but left the program after two days to pursue his entrepreneurial aspirations in the areas of the Internet, renewable energy and outer space.[41][47] In 2002, he became a U.S. citizen.[48][49]

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
8. Now that is a creative and positive way to address the current crisis and develop a system better
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 07:57 PM
Sep 2017

For future needs.

K&R

BigmanPigman

(51,589 posts)
10. MSNBC Chris Hayes just spoke with former D-FL senator
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 08:42 PM
Sep 2017

who said that what needs to happen is go solar when Puerto Rico is rebuilt. This needs to be combined with infrastructure throughout the US too! Of course the Donald "promised" to do this during the campaign but I guess he will get to it AFTER the 1% get richer.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
14. I thought that was current D-FL Senator Bill Nelson Chris Hayes was speaking to?
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 09:46 PM
Sep 2017

But I was not paying full attention.

BigmanPigman

(51,589 posts)
15. Oh, I missed the beginning and read the bottom caption
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 09:53 PM
Sep 2017

and assumed he was a former senator. Thanks. That means his opinion has some influence I would think.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
16. I hope remains our senator - the RNC is bankrolling Rick Scott big time to run against Nelson
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 09:58 PM
Sep 2017

I've been trying to send Nelson money but for now that is on hold - medical issues.

BigmanPigman

(51,589 posts)
19. I am in the same position for the same reason.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 10:44 PM
Sep 2017

It sucks. If I were healthy and didn't have such huge medical costs I would be able to do so much more. I used to volunteer, etc. It is very frustrating.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
23. I'm getting a new aortic valve
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 10:39 AM
Sep 2017

Right now I simply have no energy, run out of breath sitting still, and just can't do much. Hopefully once my valve is replaced I will have a LOT more energy - so maybe by the time the 2018 campaigns get going I can volunteer and do more.

BUT when I started Medicare in July I signed up for a "gold" supplemental knowing that this was coming. That means money coming out of my account every month that could have gone to campaigns - but I will have effectively nothing out of pocket for the operation. I still don't know what medications I might be on afterwards - but I can change my pharmacy plan, I hope to one that is not terribly expensive.

BigmanPigman

(51,589 posts)
24. I have a silver plan with ACA and my costs for
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 10:52 AM
Sep 2017

premiums, out of pocket expenses, and very, very expensive drugs is currently is 35% of my income. Now that plans are increasing due to 45s sabotage of the ACA my current medical expenses will increase to 50%.

They need to fix this problem!!!


csziggy

(34,136 posts)
25. Yeah - with the Republicans in charge nothing will get better
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 11:13 AM
Sep 2017

They will not allow negotiations with drug companies to reduce costs and they will continue to disrupt the ACA if they can't repeal it.

Republicans don't fix problems - they ARE the problem.

Two of the drugs I was prescribed but had stopped using because of side effects I am no longer using - with them on my list it was going to cost over $1000 a month. I have a reasonable income but I could not afford that. Without those on my drug list my cost for a Medicare drug plan is $22 a month. The system is insane.

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
13. What a marketing coup.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 08:57 PM
Sep 2017

I fully endorse his action and definitely applaud the fight against global warming in connection with preventing future outages.

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