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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Wish they'd give REAL information. What percentage of housing was destroyed?
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 11:28 AM
Sep 2017

What percentage was flooded so that it's still standing but needing extensive repair and everything inside ruined?
What percentage is still habitable and thus still inhabited?
We need to understand what our people over there still have and what they need.

I've done some searching and can't find anything free of this sensationalist and politicized coverage. The MSM show film of the worst damage over and over and over again and are asking everyone in sight what they think of Trump's tweets -- but not if their neighborhood has baby food.

This is worse than worthless, it's rabble rousing. Searching for information directly on twitter instead turned up the pathetic reality that people are being distracted into pro- and against Trump political yammering, instead of talking about the people of Puerto Rico and 6 other islands and what they need.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
4. I would say that most of the island needs everything. Even the houses standing have holes
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 11:50 AM
Sep 2017

in the roofs and rain is making those uninhabitable. A goodly bunch have water from the ground up so those even if the water goes down, will be ruined in short time by mold that grows abundantly in the warm moist climate.

Food that they did have, is undoubtedly long spoiled by the lack of electricity and gas for generators. I would say most people don't have generators, they are expensive.

A person can only live for a very few (less than a week) without water. The water from any taps is probably contaminated with sewage in light of the heavy flooding.

I wouldn't call any coverage sensationalist and politicized. It's horrendous no matter how you look at it. I think you need to find a site more in keeping with your baseless concerns.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Yes, but you don't know. I've been to Puerto Rico a couple of times. Most homes
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 12:04 PM
Sep 2017

are above flood levels, just for instance, but Maria apparently tore right over the mountains, including a special one that had always seemed to protect some areas. We can imagine all we want, but, again, how many people are still able to live in acceptably healthy, sheltering homes? How much of San Juan down on the coast is gone or habitable? And how many are homeless?

How many neighborhoods don't have access to baby food and milk? Frightening thought, but note that we're not hearing about starving or dying babies. Yet. But given the tenor of the MSM coverage, shouldn't we be? Babies are scary frail when it comes to emergencies. Adversities that mature bodies can just shrug off, dehydration, hyperthermia, infections, croups and colicks, seizures, can quickly become too much for their fragile little bodies.

The quote about the number of hospitals closed is repeated every program, but no mention whatsoever made of the many emergency medical teams at work. Some arrived and set up before Maria hit. Are people receiving the acute and supportive care they must have? How many not? Deaths -- many or not so many? Nine days after, communications are up but information is not being reported.

TV/cable coverage of this disaster is almost entirely politicized and print not that much better. At this point we can watch them all day and into the night and not only know almost nothing about what is happening on those islands but have our heads filled with badly warped perceptions.

brush

(53,776 posts)
6. Without power for days, extensive flooding, roofs gone, no food, water and fuel, roads blocked...
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 01:17 PM
Sep 2017

it doesn't take much imagination to understand that the island was devastated and is in need of just about everything.

Does it really matter whether buildings are 90% uninhabitable v 60%, whether people are huddled in whatever dry places they can find?

And in those places, because of lack of running water and operable toilets the smell of overflowed bathrooms has to be horrible.

The point is not the percentage of whatever, it's the slow, grudging incompetence of the trump admin's response.

And btw, he's playing golf today again for the second weekend in a row of this unfolding tragedy while the mayor of San Juan is wading in waist deep water searching for victims.

And trump called her leadership poor, and also said Puerto Ricans want everything done for them, as if they are not American citizens deserving of the same aid that Florida and Texas got.

He's the one to criticize.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Does it matter if you're sleeping in your own bed in your own home
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 01:25 PM
Sep 2017

eating cold soup from your own cupboard or if you're homeless? Yes.

Moreover, it matters tremendously whether 50,000 are homeless or 2 million.

Trump insulting the desperate emotings of the female mayor of San Juan from his luxurious golf club is a wonderful little gift to Democrats in general and hopefully will actually end up benefiting the people of Puerto Rico.

But for right now it's just more political crap and has nothing at all to do with the growing possibility of communicable disease outbreaks on that island -- which again we have NO reporting on. Nor do we have even the slightest information about antibiotic supply. (However, if you search the sites of professional medical relief agencies you find mention that some left for PR before Maria hit, and some after, and probably can presume they brought a fair number of the kinds they expected to need with them.)

Btw, notice how few angry, outraged posts here wonder how many people have died? It's almost all Trump, Trump, Trump.

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