Top Senate Democrat Sends Paul Ryan Reeling After Calling Out His Tax Plan Lies

[applegrove]

By Jason Easley at Politicus USA

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/01/top-senate-democrat-sends-paul-ryan-reeling-calling-tax-plan-lies.html

"SNIP............

CHUCK SCHUMER: Well, look. We Democrats sent a letter to the Republican leadership and the president, said that here were three things that we thought tax reform ought to have. 1) Tax breaks ought not to go to the top 1% but ought to be focused on the middle class. 2) It ought not blow a hole in the deficit. And 3) it ought to be done in a bipartisan way, not through reconciliation.

Unfortunately the Republican plan doesn’t agree with any of those. First, it’s completely focused on the wealthy and the powerful. Not on the middle class. Second, it blows a huge hole in the deficit. And third, they said they’re going to do it through reconciliation. That’s a partisan process. It excludes Democrats. It’s the same process that led to the demise on health care. And let me just address one thing, John. Speaker Ryan keeps saying it helps the middle class. That’s not true. What he’s saying and what the plan is are totally different.

Let me go over three quick points. 1) They get rid of the estate tax. The only people who benefit are the very wealthy, estates over $11 million. 5,000 estates will get over $3 million each. Second, they lower the top rate from 39 to 35. That affects the wealthy. They raise the lowest rate from 10 to 12. That affects working people.

What Republicans are proposing is based on the ideological myth that tax cuts create growth, but as was recently seen in Kansas, massive tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations don’t create growth. They explode deficits and trash the economy.


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[democratisphere]

1. redumbliCONs only deal in myths.

Reality is too much to handle.

[BigmanPigman]

2. The "deplorables" will buy it hook, line and sinker.

Then when it hits them they will go along with the GOP BS...the Dems or Obama did it! Idiotic morons (his base) will screw the people who think and vote rationally/realistically every time. The US against THEM is wider than ever.

[groundloop]

3. We had virtually the same conversation with W's tax cut plan - look at where that got us

'Trickle down' didn't work under Saint Ronnie, didn't work under W, and sure the hell won't work under 45*. It's nothing more than a giveaway to the ultra rich at the expense of everyone else, while at the same time trashing the economy. If this idiocy passes we'll be in the same ultra-recession as what W got us into.

[not fooled]

5. What shocks me now

if the deplorables buy this latest iteration, is how the eff can they after we now have a track record of several decades of repeated failures of this garbage, plus even pukes criticizing or pointing out how it doesn't work (some guy who was in a puke admin when they passed one of these commented recently that these tax cuts don't work).

You have to be truly dimwitted, willfully ignorant, or a selfish beneficiary to support tax cuts this time.

[stuffmatters]

4. Bush tax cuts? Cheney got $225000 back, we got $300. And it's caused 40% of the deficit

So we get to have social sec, medicaid and medicare threatened by Republicans Austerity BullShitters in perpetuity.. Double Bingo.

Gotta start looking at this as a major feature of the Republican agenda to destroy our social safety nets and in fact our democracy.

[mdbl]

9. This has been obvious since 30 years ago when Reagan was in office.

It's some weird cosmic mystery as to why average voters keep screwing themselves or you could just say it's the power of propaganda.

[LittleGirl]

6. GOP Trump University Math. eom

[diva77]

7. seems like the headline of the article is more wishful thinking than what actually took place

I haven't seen any evidence that Paul Ryan has been thrown off balance with his lies...I wish it were so...

[mdbl]

10. Paul Ryan is still defending trump with his "he's learning" routine

Instead of impeaching the SOB for all his lies and conflicts of interests, he supports him. Typical repuglican hypocrisy.

[sharedvalues]

8. Dear Chuck. Say "Lie". Lie Lie Lie. Ryan lied. Ryan lied because his donors want tax cuts.

Until democrats start engaging on the real, underlying causes we will make little progress -- the real cause is that GOP billionaire donors control the party, and they want tax cuts, so Paul Ryan will say WHATEVER LIE HE CAN THINK OF to make that happen. Democrats need to stop engaging on the surface words and start engaging on underlying causes.

[OnDoutside]

13. Yes, and "lying to the American people, many of his own voters"

[alicenuffer]

11. TOP DEMOCRAT

Ryan is hopeing he gets to be president after The badly guy gets indicted...the mommy guy goes next...then Ryan gets to wear the big long red tie...

[smirkymonkey]

17. God help us.

He's going down too. At least I hope he does. No way can this guy be the leader of this country. It just can't happen.

[BSdetect]

12. Its Trickle Up Economics

[MontanaMama]

14. Guess that means we

are being invited to go piss up a rope.

[FairWinds]

15. I see no evidence that Paul Ryan is "Reeling" . .

the title of the post is a lie.

I expect better from Dems.

[JHan]

18. ....

[Honeycombe8]

21. Yeah, I said the same thing. The title was just a come-on to attract readers. nt

[UCmeNdc]

16. K&R

[LiberalLovinLug]

19. Who writes these headlines?

More like he is rolling. ie...

[Honeycombe8]

20. I don't see anything in the article indicating Paul Ryan was sent reeling. ???? nt

[CrispyQ]

22. This is how you do it - one, two three!

Let me go over three quick points. 1) They get rid of the estate tax. The only people who benefit are the very wealthy, estates over $11 million. 5,000 estates will get over $3 million each. Second, they lower the top rate from 39 to 35. That affects the wealthy. They raise the lowest rate from 10 to 12. That affects working people.

Thank you Senator!

[Fritz Walter]

23. TED Talks: pitchforks for the plutocrats

https://ted.com/talks/nick_hanauer_beware_fellow_plutocrats_the_pitchforks_are_coming?utm_source=tedcomshare&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tedspread--b

[Plucketeer]

24. Ryan's a veritable LIAR

He's pretty good at it too. That wide-eyed "Who, ME?" look he puts on when he spews untruths - makes me wanna punch him thru my TV.

[red dog 1]

25. K&R!

Chuck Schumer is right!

On "Face the Nation" yesterday, John Dickerson let House Speaker Eddie Munster lie about the GOP-Trump tax plan with virtually no rebuttal or follow-up questions.

"John, this tax plan will benefit the middle class, not the wealthy"
(The same bullshit that President Assface spouts)

However, the politicususa headline is ridiculous!
The only thing that will "send Ryan reeling" is an indictment in the Russian 2016 Election Interference investigation.


Mr Mueller, PLEASE hurry up, will you?
We are running out of time!

[riversedge]

26. This tax bill is set up like the repeal bill. NO Dem input and it is a rush job.

[Iggo]

27. Oh my god! Was it jaw-dropping? Was there a bombshell?

[Old Terp]

28. Based on what we know about the Plan

this old granny will have her taxes go up by $1,200 or more. Talk about double taxation. Trump, Ryan, McConnel and all of them are liars. The rich get the breaks, the poor and middle get shafted. Boo hiss!!!