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Ginsburg Slaps Gorsuch in Gerrymandering CaseBy Jeffrey Toobin
In one cutting remark, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg summed up how Justice Neil Gorsuchs patronizing lecture on the Constitution omitted some of the Courts most important precedents. ...................
The argument had gone on for nearly an hour when Gorsuch began a question as follows: Maybe we can just for a second talk about the arcane matter of the Constitution. There was a rich subtext to this query. Originalists and textualists such as Gorsuch, and his predecessor on the Court, Antonin Scalia, often criticize their colleagues for inventing rights that are not found in the nations founding document. Gorsuchs statement that the Court should spare a second for the arcane subject of the document was thus a slap at his ideological adversaries; of course, they, too, believe that they are interpreting the Constitution, but, in Gorsuchs view, only he cares about the document itself.
Gorsuch went on to give his colleagues a civics lecture about the text of the Constitution. And where exactly do we get authority to revise state legislative lines? When the Constitution authorizes the federal government to step in on state legislative matters, its pretty clearif you look at the Fifteenth Amendment, you look at the Nineteenth Amendment, the Twenty-sixth Amendment, and even the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 2. In other words, Gorsuch was saying, why should the Court involve itself in the subject of redistricting at alldidnt the Constitution fail to give the Court the authority to do so?
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who is bent with age, can sometimes look disengaged or even sleepy during arguments, and she had that droopy look today as well. But, in this moment, she heard Gorsuch very clearly, and she didnt even raise her head before offering a brisk and convincing dismissal. In her still Brooklyn-flecked drawl, she grumbled, Where did one person, one vote come from? ....................
spooky3
(35,914 posts)Raster
(20,999 posts)madaboutharry
(41,191 posts)an intolerable snob.
mcar
(43,348 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)former9thward
(33,388 posts)The SC needs four out of the nine Justices to agree to hear a case. We don't know what the vote was to hear the case, only that at least four of them voted to hear it. They debate and give their opinions on whether to take a case before that vote is taken.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)One reason Gorsuch's useless verbiage needed a good put down. He fails to understand how the case made it to the court in the first place.
mountain grammy
(27,152 posts)SCantiGOP
(14,154 posts)FakeNoose
(35,297 posts)...just like every other guy's "first time on the job."
Maybe he'll learn something from the people who have been doing it for a lot longer.
Just sayin'
mythology
(9,527 posts)and he has learned roughly speaking nothing about his job.
FakeNoose
(35,297 posts)...or maybe not. It would be nice though.
TheBlackAdder
(28,814 posts)Hekate
(94,207 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Now she's hoping RBG can hang on for as many years as needed. As we all are.
MsLeopard
(1,278 posts)May she live long and stay on the court for years to come, we need her desperately. Here's to you RBG!!!
HDSam
(251 posts)Gorsuch is going to miss out on getting the Supreme Courts Entry Level Employee of the Year award.
TheBlackAdder
(28,814 posts).
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turbinetree
(25,195 posts)how many conventions were there in the Constitutional conventions process on making of the constitution and how many Bill of Rights were discussed, or as they are known now as Amendments..............just maybe jerk, you should get a book called, hold on to your right wing seat, just like you did in the trucker drivers freezing seat...............
The Framers' Coup ,The Making of the United States Constitution , by Michael J. Klarman, Oxford University Press 2016
And just maybe you can see the "notes" how the thinking was presented by all of the participates that left "notes" when it came to the individual right of VOTING for the individual person having that "one" vote
Ginsberg ......................I love her, I really like a "woman" who smacks down a punk, and they don't even know it's coming....
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)TeamPooka
(25,162 posts)joshcryer
(62,371 posts)Genius.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)arrogance, and concern. These are my words since I can't even think of who the justice is.
But he or she explained that he and other justices normally had taken up to 2-3 years of learning on the court to find their feet, that the enormity and complexity of the job instilled humility in all of them. Not Gorsuch. Apparently this isn't the first time, or the second, that this newbie has instructed his colleagues on the constitution, his version of course. He immediately started writing assents and dissents on cases to put his own special opinions on them. He doesn't ask questions of other justices and apparently feels no particular need to trade thoughts or consult on legal reasoning and precedents.
This is going to be a bad one.
Pugster
(229 posts)Didn't vote for Hillary, becoming an important factor in the rise of Gorsuth to the Supreme Court.
onit2day
(1,201 posts)mjvpi
(1,548 posts)Every Bernie supporter I know voted whole heartedly for Clinton for exactly this reason. Posts like this make me believe that the Russians are still driving descent. I have not seen any research that backs up what you say.
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mjvpi
(1,548 posts)I have seen no exit polling to support your statement. From the number of first time voters that the Saunders campaign brought in, you probably have a better chance of arguing that Hillary only won the popular vote because of Saunders. I haven't seen research either way. My unscientific statement was based on people I know and all of the news that I read. What are you basing your statement on?
czarjak
(12,323 posts)Gothmog
(153,721 posts)usaf-vet
(6,782 posts)This seat is part of the long term rightwing plan to disassemble our democracy. The country is clearly under attack and it seems at this time in our history that the attack is from a domestic threat.
Whether it is the attack on the Constitution by right wing judges or a home grown terrorist attack in Las Vegas. Killing 58 and injuring 500+. The current threats are from within borders.
bdamomma
(65,782 posts)she slapped him down.
bucolic_frolic
(46,512 posts)that they have spent 30 years planning and scheming for his SCOTUS install.
But be of good cheer. Obviously a slow dogmatic wit, and illegitimate, and one never knows what political winds will play that out.
usaf-vet
(6,782 posts)This seat is part of the long term rightwing plan to disassemble our democracy. The country is clearly under attack and it seems at this time in our history that the attack is from a domestic threat.
Whether it is the attack on the Constitution by right wing judges or a home grown terrorist attack in Las Vegas. Killing 58 and injuring 500+. The current threats are from within borders.
milestogo
(17,297 posts)an actual slap, for the good of the country.
Maraya1969
(22,958 posts)THIS GUY needs to go! He is illegitimate and he should n't be there.
I'm sure someone with a lot more knowledge than me can find a rationalization for removing him because he was put there under illegitimate circumstances.
Nitram
(24,411 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,872 posts)to the point where he can't take it anymore, and he resigns from the Court. Or, does/says something so stupid that he is forced off.
dlk
(12,237 posts)TechNerd
(13 posts)Rhiannon12866
(220,128 posts)Welcome to DU, TechNerd!