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lindysalsagal

(22,997 posts)
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 12:06 PM Oct 2017

Constitutions are not sent from the heavens in stone. The

Founders planned on growth and evolution, and created the amendment system, requiring debate and a 2/3 vote. I don't care what it says because what matters is how we collectively agree to enforce it.

The founders were wrong about women and slavery. Hello! Even bible enthusiasts no longer kill their wives, several concurrently, or keep slaves. For the most part the world no longer allows child labor.

As we change, so do our laws. No one has a right to kill others with machine guns. It. Is. Not. A. Right.

It is an indulgence we are no longer willing to accept, and it's got to change.

Throughout our experiment in representatIive government we have always balanced our freedoms against what is good for the general public.

A government that allows carnage of its own people doesn't deserve our support.

It's simple: we need election reform, to take the huge money interests out of it. The NRA keeps owning the politicians because they need the money. It's the biggest lobbying machine, and it's killing us.

ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Constitutions are not sent from the heavens in stone. The (Original Post) lindysalsagal Oct 2017 OP
Does this apply to BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #1
By and large, justices tend to grow more liberal in the role, Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #2
"Constitutions are not sent from the heavens in stone" Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #3

BigmanPigman

(55,527 posts)
1. Does this apply to
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 12:12 PM
Oct 2017

1. limiting the time/length of service as a justice on the Supreme Court?
2. changing the electoral college role vs popular vote during elections?

We need to "up date" quite a few.

Ms. Toad

(38,824 posts)
2. By and large, justices tend to grow more liberal in the role,
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 12:21 PM
Oct 2017

once removed from the need to tailor decisions to maintain employment.

It is extremely unpopular, for example, to deny states the right to execute their citizens - decisions limiting the use of the death penalty might never be written. If decisions have to be popular to whoever is authorized to remove you from office (voters, or a specific person), they tend to be written to please that person. Liberal decisions, by and large, tend to be less popular to those with the loudest voices.

If there is a term limit, then the court loses its institutional memory - and becomes extremely unpredictable. Even when decisions are bad, not swinging wildly from one side to the other (e.g. like the congress swings from implementing the ACA to trying to trash it - with no middle ground) is good.

As to the electoral college - I completely agree.

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