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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 01:56 PM Oct 2017

GOPer: "Automatic weapons not lethal when appropriately used."

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/goper-stuns-msnbc-host-with-ar-15-claim-theyre-not-dangerous-theyre-like-trucks-driving-into-crowds/

Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK) insisted on Wednesday that assault-style rifles like the AR-15 should not be banned following the massacre in Las Vegas because he said the weapons are “not dangerous.”

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Cole, however, was against banning AR-15s.

“There’s millions of them in circulation,” he said reflexively. “When they’re used appropriately, they’re not dangerous.”

“They have to be dangerous!” Geist interrupted.

“So, again, so are some trucks driving into crowds,” Cole shot back, earning a quizzical look from Geist. “So again, I don’t see that as the obvious answer.”



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How do you appropriately use a weapon designed to kill people and not kill people???


And btw
When appropriately used, radioactive material is not dangerous.
When appropriately used, cyanide, asbestos, lead and arsenic are not dangerous.
When appropriately used, cocaine and heroin are not dangerous.
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GOPer: "Automatic weapons not lethal when appropriately used." (Original Post) DetlefK Oct 2017 OP
The whole point of the damn things is to be dangerous. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #1
"LETZ BAN ALL TRUX! LETZ BAN ALL NIVES!!!1!" HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #2
The purpose of a firearm is to kill. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #3
Does what he mean is the appropriate use of automatic weopons is for shooting on the range only? haele Oct 2017 #4
This sounds like a good proposal gratuitous Oct 2017 #13
Also, cigarettes only kill you if you smoke 'em. VOX Oct 2017 #5
He seems to think they shoot cotton balls or something. Jamastiene Oct 2017 #6
Actually, they are the most dangerous when used appropriately Renew Deal Oct 2017 #7
Mr. Cole, could you please demonstrate this for us? rurallib Oct 2017 #8
Which completely misses every conceivable point. nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2017 #9
Neither is cyanide ... GeorgeGist Oct 2017 #10
A little stupid goes a long way in delivering hurt. nt NCjack Oct 2017 #11
Intended? Johnny2X2X Oct 2017 #12
Heroin doesn't kill people. OldHippieChick Oct 2017 #14

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,830 posts)
1. The whole point of the damn things is to be dangerous.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 01:58 PM
Oct 2017

When "used appropriately" they kill people because that's exactly what they are intended to do.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
2. "LETZ BAN ALL TRUX! LETZ BAN ALL NIVES!!!1!"
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 01:59 PM
Oct 2017

Concrete barriers can stop or take away the path of a runaway van/truck.

One guy cannot kill/maim hundreds of people with a single knife. He'd likely get pounced on after one or two casualties (Portland notwithstanding).

We cannot outrun or stop hollow points.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. The purpose of a firearm is to kill.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 02:06 PM
Oct 2017

The purpose of an idiot like Tom Cotton is to take money from his sponsors/owners and say exactly what they want him to say.

haele

(12,674 posts)
4. Does what he mean is the appropriate use of automatic weopons is for shooting on the range only?
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 02:07 PM
Oct 2017

I mean, practice and target shooting is about the only way you can actually use automatic firearms without killing people. And to use an automatic weapon while hunting is just ridiculous - you damage the meat, you damage the trophy.

So I guess that means there's no problem with legislating that for the general public, all automatic weapons should be kept at only ranges and target sites?

Haele

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. This sounds like a good proposal
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 03:33 PM
Oct 2017

We just want to be sure these war weapons are used appropriately. As such, they are locked away at all times and brought out strictly for range shooting. After the shooter has shot enough stuff, the weapon is locked away again.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
5. Also, cigarettes only kill you if you smoke 'em.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 02:21 PM
Oct 2017

Just leave 'em in the pack, and you're fine.

BUT LIKE GUNS, THEIR VERY PRESENCE PRACTICALLY DEMANDS THEIR USE.

Insanity.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
6. He seems to think they shoot cotton balls or something.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 02:23 PM
Oct 2017

Guns are for killing. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Anything made specifically for killing is dangerous.

rurallib

(62,445 posts)
8. Mr. Cole, could you please demonstrate this for us?
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 02:30 PM
Oct 2017

ETA
Maybe you and John Thune could decide who will get small and avoid injury and who will shoot the "not dangerous" 800 bullet a minute gun.

Johnny2X2X

(19,109 posts)
12. Intended?
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 03:07 PM
Oct 2017

Las Vegas the other night was exactly what those weapons are intended for. They weren'tt made for yokels to play war games with, they weren't made for target practice nor hunting, and they weren't made for home defense against burglars. They were made for exactly what this guy used them for, to kill and injure as many human beings as possible in the shortest amount of time.

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