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Nadin Brzezinski
Yesterday at 5:48pm ·
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By the way, on a personal note. The admins of neoliberal above ground never answered the email I sent where I apologized to them. Nor did they post that. This surprises me, or shocks me in the least.
However, I will once again apologize to them publicly...and with that expect them to never, ever get it, or aknowledge it.
That said, banning somebody who left months before after they were hacked, and repeteadly asking for info to secure an account was rather hysterical and quite pathetic.
But I am sorry for the PRIVATE EMAIL I SENT where yes, I used colorful language (since nothing else seemed to work), expecting privacy. The fact that they posted it speaks volumes about them, and current Democratic Party apparatchiks. So with that, I shall fully close that disgusting chapter in my life. And it was not about the members, at least a large number of them.
It is about former moderators, (when the site was moderated), owners and a coterie of Center right Dems, neoliberal that have yet to understand how they turned their base off. They drove many to stay home...or vote third party
MuseRider
(35,176 posts)She has done some wonderful work covering different stories, especially the earthquake in Mexico.
obnoxiousdrunk
(3,114 posts)she was a fire fighter.
Brother Buzz
(39,863 posts)Teacher, Artist, EMT (still not sure if you think that is the same as a Paramedic), Combat, Chemist, Author, Journalist, Trauma Surgeon, Ballistics Expert, Telemetry, Nuclear Physicist, Hazmat First Responder, Paramedic Instructor, President and CEO, Paranormal Activity Investigator, Coal Mine Safety Expert, Bridge Engineering, Software Developer, Producer, Space Exploration and Jet Propulsion Scientist, Veterinary Clinic Worker, Protein-Folding Expert, Quantum Mechanics and String Theory Expert, Postal Worker, Dietitian, Farmer, Dairy Products Specialist, Alternative Energy Expert, Theologian, History Analyst?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)have done that could have kept ME from voting for the candidate of my choice. She just badly needs to convince herself that those who didn't vote Democrat all were forced by intolerable circumstances to help the right take over our government in 2016.
Uhuh. Unfortunately for our nation, those leftists who constantly insulted the Democratic Party, Hillary, liberals (including me) in practically every possible way, including flocking to candidates who fanned and gratified their hostility, didn't vote for Democrats because of what they are.
They trashed their country because, in the end, they chose to do that over voting for Democrats, every bit as much as those on the right.
Signed, Not-exactly-a-corrupt-corporatist-third-way-DINO.
Cary
(11,746 posts)Nadin makes my brain hurt.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)responded, and the thought of actually coming on and reading her elsewhere is cringeworthy. She PMed me a couple of times when I was pretty new, and those interchanges showed me that she and I don't think, process information, whatever, alike and certainly don't arrive at the same conclusions. Attempting to find something we both understand in the same way would be a great waste of time. For her as well as me.
And zero excuses for those legally competent to vote who didn't vote Democrat in 2016. They own all they helped bring down on America.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Scoopster
(423 posts)You're saying she's an obvious liar. Took me a moment there. I'm not really clued in to whoever the heck this person is.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)FSogol
(47,608 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)interview with him where she was able to clear up many of the misconceptions and reporting about Mr. Mitty. She made us aware that Mr. Mitty was the object of savage misreporting and rumor mongering ever since he stood up in a crowded Rotary meeting in Cleveland and told everyone that he was a friend of Adlai Stevenson and that if he was elected Mitty was going to leave them all behind and become Postmaster General in the Stevenson administration. She should have gotten a Pulitzer for that interview alone.
Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)"Had an inflated view of her standing in journalism (I lived in San Diego County and never heard of the East County Magazine ) and published wildly inaccurate stories that wouldn't have passed a high school newspaper test for journalistic accuracy. " Grantcart
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028600542#post18
grantcart
(53,061 posts)imagination you can assume that humor was the objective.
Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)Shows you what I know.
Either that or by your description humor was not the objective.
"In as much as Walter Kitty was a fictional product of James Thurber's"
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Corrected
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Brzezinski gave an answer she later characterized as a "non-denial denial."
greatauntoftriplets
(178,941 posts)"kerfunkle".
Phentex
(16,708 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)
pintobean
(18,101 posts)irisblue
(37,427 posts)radical noodle
(10,578 posts)still_one
(98,883 posts)malarkey, that the moderators motivated these "so-called progressives" to not vote for the Democratic nominee, because the Supreme Court, Women's Rights, workers rights, Civil Rights, the environment, healthcare, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and a 100 other issues were not reason enough, perhaps needs to seek professional help
radical noodle
(10,578 posts)that motivated so-called progressives to not vote for the Democratic nominee. This site was pretty squarely behind Hillary after the convention. I remember Nadin from that time.
aikoaiko
(34,214 posts)We can't back away from it. Many people thought they weren't needed because HRC was a sure thing.
You may not like it, but, collectively, DU should own our part.
still_one
(98,883 posts)Or those who called President Obama a "POS used car salesman, and said to him, 'FU"", or those who called Hillary the "c" word, and every other vile name in the book.
Or those that said you we need to have a reason to vote "FOR" someone, because the Supreme Court, Civil Rights, Women's Rights, Workers Rights, environmental rights, healthcare, social security, medicare, medicaid, etc. etc. etc. were NOT REASON ENOUGH.
The DU administrators do NOT "own" what happened, nor do those that voted for the Democratic nominee, but those who willfully REFUSED to vote for the Democratic nominee, and have no remorse or regret, or recognize the stupidity of their actions, and in fact would do the same thing again, DO OWN THIS, and they have blood on their hands
aikoaiko
(34,214 posts)Im not talking about saying mean things about candidates. It is about Democrats/DUers telling non-Democratic VOTERS to eff-off and pretending like we didn't need them out of hubris or anger.
Are you still upset about people calling Obama and HRC names? Really?
I didn't say DU administrators we to blame for sending away marginalized potential Democratic voters -- I said we are, collectively.
still_one
(98,883 posts)and that is baloney
and just who are these "non-Democratic" voters that DUer's are telling to FO?
Me.
(35,454 posts)Why would we need non-democratic voters, people who won't vote for our candidate...aren't they Republicons or Steinites?
aikoaiko
(34,214 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)Instead of wasting both chasing shadows. When people tell you who they are I tend to believe them.
aikoaiko
(34,214 posts)There are plenty of people working with the "leaning Democratic" crowd.
Me.
(35,454 posts)There are more Dems in this country than the others, GOTV, we win. And don't think there aren't Dems in red states, they are basically ignored. There's a wisdom to dancing with the one who brought you and those are minorities/ especially black women, LGBTQ, and women/especially black women. And when we stop chasing dreams and working on ending gerrymandering and putting disenfranchised voters back on the rolls DEms will be more effective. Even dogs know chasing your tail gets one nowhere.
aikoaiko
(34,214 posts)We've been pushing GOTV hard for 40 years and we still can't get demographic Democrats to the polls. We get the low lying fruit, but there's not enough of them.
Swinging the swing voters is hard work too, but look what happened in Michigan. It doesn't take much.
But, truthfully, I don't have confidence in your theory
Response to Me. (Reply #53)
Eliot Rosewater This message was self-deleted by its author.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,284 posts)Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Now I know that hurts to hear it, and it pisses of Sanders supporters, and did indeed hurt Hillary in the General.
Sometimes hearing the truth is the hardest hurt of all.
But it doesn't mean we all hate Bernie or his message.
aikoaiko
(34,214 posts)And I don't hate Hillary or her message.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)And I certainly did not mean that Bernie folk hated Hillary's message.
I wanted to say that Hillary supporters did not hate Bernie nor his message.
Sometimes I don't get across what I mean to get across. I apologize if I was confusing.
All the Best!
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)don't understand that you are voting for the party and their platform and the party with the majority calls the tune ...then you were probably not smart enough for this site...and a big fuck you if you didn't vote for Hillary...Millions will be hurt by Trump...and a handful of check your privilege, care for nobodies, pure assholes such as yourself helped him gain office.
Squinch
(59,411 posts)still_one
(98,883 posts)Eko
(9,974 posts)to the confrontations I had with her. She personally blamed me, personally, for all kinds of crazy stuff that I had nothing to do with. I should search for it but with Dump as president Ive had enough for a while.
"I will blame you EKO personally if Prop does not pass by a narrow margin. It is your fucking attitude that is not helping. Oh and spare me your GOTV and party activism ok".
This was a CA prop, I dont even live on the west coast lol.
Metatron
(1,260 posts)Eko
(9,974 posts)for other stuff too, then she said the same thing to someone else and I complained that "I" was personally responsible and she couldn't take that away from me and give it to someone else. She didn't take kindly to that at all.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Eko
(9,974 posts)I just keep wondering if Im the devil.
Rabble rouser
Eko
(9,974 posts)Waaayyyyy worse.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)I did see her GBCW to the Admins -- so I completely understand why she (and some others) had their access turned off. Back in Ye Old Days she and I had some interesting and informative exchanges -- but as the saying goes, that was then and this is now. Something changed on her part, though -- I was not the only one to let her go her own way.
I am so behind. Don't know what that stands for, didn't see her post, nor did I see what she is referring to in the fb post from the OP.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Used generically to refer to a post or email that announces a departure from a site. The usual connotation is to disparage whatever the author wrote, without troubling to address the merits.
On a completely unrelated side note, I titled my post "GBCW = Good-Bye Cruel World" but the equal sign wouldn't display in the title, so I had to revise it. It displays here in text, though.
salin
(48,958 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)Oh deary, deary me.
See post#58 for elucidation.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)BannonsLiver
(20,541 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)long long ago.
A shame she lost her way.
Blue_Roses
(13,865 posts)and what happened. Name sounds familiar.
GusBob
(8,239 posts)THIS IS A FUCKING JOURNALIST??
Her writing was and is horrific. Always full of grade school grammar and spelling errors.
I wouldn't line a bird cage with her work.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)do you remember her bird cage????
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)How can one alert on post about a banned, PPR poster as bashing democrats? Unless they were talking about the things that PPR poster said in her letter, I guess - but that's a far stretch. You posting this letter is just a reminder that this board is better off without that poster.
Anyone who was driven "to stay home... or vote third party" by what people did on DU are narcissistic assholes who put their own hurt fee-fees over the lives of women, minorities, and whole swathes of the population. Their childish tantrum made them willing to kill, second-hand, people who need health care, LGBTQIA people, Muslims, women in need of abortions, people who are differently abled - in short, they had no problems sacrificing the most vulnerable to their own purity.
Nadin, and everyone who voted third party or deliberately stayed home in protest, are holding bloody towels from mopping up the blood on Republican hands.
concreteblue
(626 posts)I remember seeing the name of the poster in question, but that is all I remember. However, I agree in part with what she apparently said in the quotes in OP. And you are proving the point.
"Nadin, and everyone who voted third party or deliberately stayed home in protest, are holding bloody towels from mopping up the blood on Republican hands."
Are you ready to accept responsibility for the actual blood on the hands of elected Democrats who vote for continuing military action in Yemen, Syria, etc?
Yes, Not electing Democrats harms what should be the agenda of the Democratic Party. But the kind of over the top holier-than-thou proclamations such as I have quoted invite criticisms like I have provided.
radical noodle
(10,578 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)We know that even though it will not be perfect, will never be perfect, the aim of all the policies the Democrats espouse is a better life for as many as possible. And yes, that means taking responsibility for when we fail to make people's lives better. However, that failure is not the goal of our politics.
For the Republicans that is not the case. Not voting Democratic, or deliberately not voting at all, is supporting the destructive agenda of the Republicans. It is wishing people harm. Their policies entail being willing to let people die, or in fact, being willing to deliberately put them in harm's way, or being willing to actively kill them. And I see a marked and significant difference in unintentionally hurting people while working to make their lives better versus refusing to stop Republicans from deliberately hurting people because you are throwing a childish tantrum.
You may see it differently. That's your prerogative. But don't expect me to condone it, and not blaming you if you put your feelings above other people's lives.
concreteblue
(626 posts)Really? REALLY?????!!!
Again, you prove the point. Nothing in my post remotely feeds your response/conclusion. But, you DO prove my point. Thank you.
Squinch
(59,411 posts)No, dear. Both sides are not the same.
concreteblue
(626 posts)I said no such thing. But thank for confirming my position.
Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)And here I was thinking that will be the day a wind turbine blade flies a quarter of a mile
Who knew?
concreteblue
(626 posts)No response, because I said no such thing as the poster implied. So there's that.
kcr
(15,522 posts)Because someone thinks you're on the wrong side of whatever DU "war" is going on, or they've mistaken you for someone who is. If you even give the impression you've taken a side, expect to get alerted on frequently. For years I didn't get a single post removed. 2016 primary season with DU's jury alert system changed that. I'm afraid to admit that all it's done is made me angrier and saltier. It's an antagonistic system.
NBachers
(19,420 posts)Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)One where reality is intertwined with the absurd.
Sounds like it could be amazing or absolute madness. Maybe both.
Zero journalistic integrity. Zero.
BannonsLiver
(20,541 posts)But based on this thread and the other from a few weeks ago it reminds me of Walter Mitty.
Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)I have seen some great articles by Nadine. I have also seen completely made up articles with no basis in reality. It's really strange. There are Walter Mitty like aspects when it comes to her profession from one week to the next.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028600542#post5
This deserves a Pulitzer
Nadine
Subject: Password
I know you probably do not want me back, It is mutual.
Can you send me the password reset so I can do that, basic fucking cyber security, and i can move on and away from your fucking DLC site? I know I am not the only actual liberal who will stay away from your neoliberal site, At least be honest who you want to cater to. But seriously, you say you were hacked, you insist people reset their passwords... basic cyber security. If you were hacked or not it is really not my business, nor do I care.
I really do not care for your type, the Limousine insider DC, so called liberal. but really, basic cyber security.
Oh and I have tried using your fucking system to reset it and move on at least 5 times, one from Mexico incidentally during a shive. (the week of mourning in the Jewish tradition, I do not expect you to know that)
Nadinbrezezinski is my fucking user name.
Incidentally, I told your fucking party it was making a Weimar level mistake when you nominated HRC, enjoy that. I told you guys you were doing that before you did that before the primaries were over, and incidentally, my ROV used white out in San Diego to erase Sanders votes, welcome to the Torta effect. (yes it went to court by the way, and the ROV lost)
It is YOUR FUCKING PARTY. Neither democrats or republicans represent me, a simple working class media person that called Trump a fascist. But I am a working class member, and I get it why he got elected. But your party chose to steal the primaries. You are as guilty as the SDs were for the same fucking mistake at the twilight of the Weimar Republic. Historians are sure to call it exactly that.
But can I get that, so I can fucking move on?
Thank you.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Too funny.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)choie
(6,899 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)She once sent me a bunch of PM's. They started pretty reasonable (if you could decipher what she was saying), but by the end, they were.... unhinged... is all I can think of to call them. It one message after another of how the Democratic establishment was out to silence here. Oh boy....
boston bean
(36,929 posts)riiiiiiight..... She has some serious issues. And is really not a nice person.
ProfessorGAC
(76,602 posts)I could not agree more with your assessment.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)anytime anyone pointed out something contrary to what she knew to be correct we were being mean and bullying her.
I just somehow found this latest hate fest from her while I was looking for something else and got a chuckle out of it.
GoCubsGo
(34,885 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)with former posters? i don't get it.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)That former member had been here 13 years, and has a very colorful history, to say the least.
"That poster" isn't the only one. I find it off-putting, myself.
Orrex
(67,057 posts)At that point, members gain the impressive ability to not read threads that they find off-putting or that don't interest them.
Patience!
Thanks for condescending to egimacate me. Now I have something to aspire to.
Orrex
(67,057 posts)And since you peevishly replied "So what?" to another member, you made it clear that you're fine with condescension.
I guess what I am reacting/over-reacting to is the mismatch between me and DU. It's not gonna work I think.
Fair winds and following seas.
Orrex
(67,057 posts)Lol.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I think you're confusing 'bemusement' with 'obsession.'
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)There is no obsessive behavior illustrated on this thread... unless of course, you wish to point it out for us, and explain how the posts fits within the definition of obsession, and why it does not fit within the definition of bemusement..
Yet, if you are indeed, unable or unwilling to support your premise with actual evidence, I completely understand.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I agree.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)That woman is nuts.
OilemFirchen
(7,288 posts)Ah, journalism. Where shock is milder than surprise.
For Nadine, because it's that time again, here's a pumpkin:
MineralMan
(151,175 posts)A number of former DUers are writing things elsewhere these days. Those who follow them know where to find them.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)How boring she was, and apparently still is.
dembotoz
(16,922 posts)whether she should or should not be here way above my pay grade and i am not arguing her removal
just found her interesting
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)dembotoz
(16,922 posts)and i must admit i lack the take the high road restraint of obama.....
still i have been called fewer names here than i get called on facebook
mvd
(65,908 posts)I was one and know the hard work they did. I also am pretty far to the left.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)like she was letting us in on some big thing. Weird how San Diego was the center of the world, and the big stuff was always happening in the East County.
The Comicon Convention was the best though, what with the CIA agents there and all.
Turin_C3PO
(16,385 posts)But she kind of went off the rails as the years went by.
stranger81
(2,345 posts)If you're reduced to spending your time mocking posters who have no opportunity to respond here, might I suggest a more constructive -- and less mean-spirited -- hobby?
eleny
(46,176 posts)eleny
(46,176 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,602 posts)Because it would have been appropriate.
eleny
(46,176 posts)As someone else replied, she's not here to defend herself. No sense in being uncivil at this point.
I won't belabor this any longer. And I don't want to kick this thread any more than I have. So I'm done.
BainsBane
(57,750 posts)occurring because Trump doesnt give a damn. As far as Im concerned, people like her who put their egos over the well-being of the world are complicit in those deaths, as much as Trump is. When they refused to vote for Clinton, they chose to kill, they chose to cause suffering among the poor and marginalized, and they succeeded. That makes them worse than bankers and corporate CEOs. That she now boasts of putting Trump in office reveals her to be a truly malevolent person who actively seeks to make the world as ugly and destructive as her soul. Her only political ideology is narcissism; there is little wonder she chose Trump.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,284 posts)Wanna know what makes it even more maddening?
Still happening. Gonna see a repeat. Gonna see endless media coverage of a certain group who will back only CERTAIN candidates.
Now oddly enough the one concern that WONT be mentioned is anything to do with guns. Weird that.
My hope is that DU becomes the place where ALL members agree to vote for ANY democrat who statistically has the best chance of winning in her or his state or district. ANY.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)thank you
defacto7
(14,162 posts)Seems like she still creates quite a stir around here.
Tom Rinaldo
(23,187 posts)After the JPR Forum was started, while the primaries were still on, Nadin left DU and went there. I never left DU of course, but I started to re-post the same pro Bernie OPs that I posted at DU over there as well (and yes I got a little flak there for being pro-Bernie without being anti-Hillary also). JPR started veering further into becoming an anti-Hillary forum (and less pro-Bernie) after it became increasingly apparent Hillary would win the nomination and that Bernie would endorse her. I stuck around for awhile to post anti-Trump material there after the Democratic Convention (and finally stopped posting there after I got reprimanded for being soley focused on stopping Trump).
Sorry for that long prologue, but it is dangerous to state that I ever participated at JPR without first providing the above context. So I will admit that Nadin impressed me with her integrity over one point at least. More and more "fake news" started being posted at JPR from highly dubious sources. Stuff about how Hillary was covering up a grave physical illness and the like. Anyway, while I was still there trying to convince folks that Trump was a grave danger, Nadin blasted JPR posters for re-posting and approving of illegitimate hit jobs against Hillary pushing conspiracies that weren't supported by facts. She thought it cheapened the entire forum to traffic in such garbage. Nadin got heavy push back over "free speech" and members not wanting JPR to censor content. Nadin argued about it for about a day and then she told JPR that under the circumstances, given how JPR was being used, she would have nothing further to do with that forum, and she left. A fair number of people asked her to reconsider but she was gone, far as I know for good.
BainsBane
(57,750 posts)presumably because of the DU administrators, which is the worst excuse I've seen.
Tom Rinaldo
(23,187 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)and calling us bullies again
lpbk2713
(43,271 posts)And 4000 of them are her.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)and passing it off as Journalism.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)I never in the age of computers knew why she always referred to her scanner
my spouse's grandparents used to listen to their scanner for fun-they were 90
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Purveyor
(29,876 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)She is just the other side of the coin from Bravenak. Neither of them are actually useful.