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demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 11:42 PM Oct 2017

THIS is why former poster is not that missed.








Nadin Brzezinski

Yesterday at 5:48pm ·

...

By the way, on a personal note. The admins of neoliberal above ground never answered the email I sent where I apologized to them. Nor did they post that. This surprises me, or shocks me in the least.

However, I will once again apologize to them publicly...and with that expect them to never, ever get it, or aknowledge it.

That said, banning somebody who left months before after they were hacked, and repeteadly asking for info to secure an account was rather hysterical and quite pathetic.

But I am sorry for the PRIVATE EMAIL I SENT where yes, I used colorful language (since nothing else seemed to work), expecting privacy. The fact that they posted it speaks volumes about them, and current Democratic Party apparatchiks. So with that, I shall fully close that disgusting chapter in my life. And it was not about the members, at least a large number of them.
It is about former moderators, (when the site was moderated), owners and a coterie of Center right Dems, neoliberal that have yet to understand how they turned their base off. They drove many to stay home...or vote third party
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THIS is why former poster is not that missed. (Original Post) demtenjeep Oct 2017 OP
I enjoy her on Facebook. MuseRider Oct 2017 #1
I thought obnoxiousdrunk Oct 2017 #10
She was a lot of things..... Brother Buzz Oct 2017 #15
LMAO. I actually liked her posts, even when she bashed me. Hoyt Oct 2017 #16
When didn't she bash us? There's nothing she or any basher could Hortensis Oct 2017 #101
You have the patience of a saint, gleaning that from her nonsense Cary Oct 2017 #111
Lol. Far from saintly. Haven't read her posts for years and definitely not Hortensis Oct 2017 #112
LOL! treestar Oct 2017 #23
Nuclear Physicist/Postal Worker ftw Not Ruth Oct 2017 #27
Ohhh okay. Scoopster Oct 2017 #34
You are lucky lunamagica Oct 2017 #103
ha! bigtree Oct 2017 #35
DU's own Walter Mitty! FSogol Oct 2017 #43
I believe that she in fact had met Mr. Mitty several times and had a very good "on the record" grantcart Oct 2017 #54
This wasn't long ago at all. I take it you are joking here. Or there. lol Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #70
In as much as Walter Mitty was a fictional product of James Thurber's grantcart Oct 2017 #97
I thought Walter Kitty was conjured up by Barbara Hicks. Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #98
on the phone, lol, hard to hit the right jeys. grantcart Oct 2017 #99
When questioned about her relation to Mr. Mitty Codeine Oct 2017 #80
It was, to quote nadin, a greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #105
... Phentex Oct 2017 #114
LOL! NurseJackie Oct 2017 #94
And, leader of the curios. pintobean Oct 2017 #129
where did you find this post? irisblue Oct 2017 #2
I saw it on Facebook radical noodle Oct 2017 #20
"They drove many to stay home...or vote third party", what utter bullshit. Anyone who believes this still_one Oct 2017 #3
Seems to me it was that other site radical noodle Oct 2017 #18
Actually, there were many people we told to eff-off when they tried to express their struggle. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #30
You mean like this still_one Oct 2017 #39
Not like that, obviously. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #45
The OP was referring to a previous DU alumni, who made that accusation against the DU admins, still_one Oct 2017 #49
That Makes No SEnse Me. Oct 2017 #53
Some of them have no affiliation or are leaning Rep or Green. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #77
I'd Rather Time & Effort Was Spent On 'Leaning Dem' Me. Oct 2017 #95
Sticking to the low lying fruit is fine, but that not how elections are won. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #96
That's Exactly How Elections Are Won Me. Oct 2017 #104
I say both. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #115
We'll See Me. Oct 2017 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #82
I cant say anything. Wish I could. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #83
Turns out they were right, Bernie Sanders could not win Saboburns Oct 2017 #51
Its still an unanswerable question on how Bernie would have done in the GE. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #75
that is certainly true regarding the General election Saboburns Oct 2017 #84
If you can see this ...you chose to vote third party...no Democrat is worse than a GOP, and if you Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #67
Seriously. What kind of an infant do you have to be to let someone else decide your vote for you? Squinch Oct 2017 #108
Isn't that the truth still_one Oct 2017 #124
Thats actually tame Eko Oct 2017 #4
Had to look one up. Eko Oct 2017 #8
Eko, she probably holds you responsible for Brexit, too Metatron Oct 2017 #29
She held me responsible later in the thread Eko Oct 2017 #123
How do you ever sleep at night? grantcart Oct 2017 #50
Havent been able to since then. Eko Oct 2017 #122
Shame On You Me. Oct 2017 #55
it got worse later on in the thread. Eko Oct 2017 #121
Looks LIke You Held Your Own Me. Oct 2017 #130
Thanks. Eko Oct 2017 #131
Where was this posted? Hekate Oct 2017 #5
CBGW? salin Oct 2017 #71
GBCW is short for Good-Bye Cruel World Jim Lane Oct 2017 #78
of course... thanks. salin Oct 2017 #85
"Without troubling to address the merits"? -- I guess you had to have been there Hekate Oct 2017 #93
She seemed very unstable to me. nt Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #6
What a delight she must be. BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #7
Yup, that's it lunamagica Oct 2017 #9
That particular former poster is definitely NOT missed by true Democrats. She was one once, BlueCaliDem Oct 2017 #11
Who is this Blue_Roses Oct 2017 #12
*acknowledge* *repeatedly* *neoliberals* GusBob Oct 2017 #13
BWAHAHA demtenjeep Oct 2017 #125
This was alerted on. KitSileya Oct 2017 #14
Wow. Are you prepared to be told what else you just said? concreteblue Oct 2017 #17
Any Democrat is 100x better than any republican radical noodle Oct 2017 #21
Voting for Democratic politicians is trying to improve everyone's life situations. KitSileya Oct 2017 #22
"Put my feelings above other people's lives" concreteblue Oct 2017 #133
I lulzed. So are you saying you don't vote for Democrats? Squinch Oct 2017 #110
Please quote me. concreteblue Oct 2017 #132
You brought it back to life!!!! Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #135
And yet... concreteblue Oct 2017 #136
You can get alerted on for ending a sentence in a preposition kcr Oct 2017 #87
I eventually decided that it just wasn't worth the effort. NBachers Oct 2017 #19
I wonder what it's like to go through life with such an active imagination. Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #24
I don't know her BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #38
Walter Mitty. Very interesting. Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #42
see #54 above. grantcart Oct 2017 #56
"Pulitzer" Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #58
Spelled her own user name wrong. cwydro Oct 2017 #88
she surrounded herself in drama . . . it was tiring DrDan Oct 2017 #25
On the contrary, she is missed n/t choie Oct 2017 #26
For the ridiculous drama she stirred up? Adrahil Oct 2017 #44
She was the biggest bully claiming to be bullied I have ever run into on DU. Oh the victim she was, boston bean Oct 2017 #28
What BB Said! ProfessorGAC Oct 2017 #57
no kidding demtenjeep Oct 2017 #117
How can we not miss her if you won't let her go away? GoCubsGo Oct 2017 #31
what's with the obsession shanny Oct 2017 #32
You've been here 2 months? pintobean Oct 2017 #40
So what? shanny Oct 2017 #46
Once you reach 500 posts, it won't be an issue Orrex Oct 2017 #61
Well gosh shanny Oct 2017 #65
In my defense, you seemed to be unaware of this aspect of DU Orrex Oct 2017 #69
Fair points. shanny Oct 2017 #72
No harm, no foul (nt) Orrex Oct 2017 #73
Well said. cwydro Oct 2017 #100
So what? pintobean Oct 2017 #89
I think you're confusing 'bemusement' with 'obsession.' LanternWaste Oct 2017 #59
Nope. shanny Oct 2017 #60
You'll of course, support your premise with objective evidence LanternWaste Oct 2017 #62
Yes indeed. cwydro Oct 2017 #102
Lol. Thanks for the chuckle. cwydro Oct 2017 #33
I smell a Pullet Surprise. OilemFirchen Oct 2017 #36
Oh, dear... MineralMan Oct 2017 #37
Her again? NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #41
generally found her interesting...miss her dembotoz Oct 2017 #47
I guess she never bashed you lunamagica Oct 2017 #107
or i missed it...i must admit there are a few who have bashed me in the past dembotoz Oct 2017 #113
Why bash the mods? mvd Oct 2017 #48
I was amused at how she considered herself somehow a legit journalist and thus better than us. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2017 #52
and also that she had some big scoop treestar Oct 2017 #109
I liked some of her posts early on. Turin_C3PO Oct 2017 #63
This thread is pathetic. stranger81 Oct 2017 #64
Oops, I meant to reply to the OP eleny Oct 2017 #66
Why not just leave it alone, already eleny Oct 2017 #68
Were You Replying That Way To The Poster Referenced In The OP? ProfessorGAC Oct 2017 #74
I was asking the OP to let it alone eleny Oct 2017 #81
I hope shes happy about all the deaths in Puerto Rico BainsBane Oct 2017 #76
Every word you write here is true. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #86
your last sentence is perfect demtenjeep Oct 2017 #137
And the beat goes on.... defacto7 Oct 2017 #79
Little known fact about that poster Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #90
In the post above she says she didn't vote for Hillary BainsBane Oct 2017 #91
Maybe there's a worse excuse, but off hand I can't think of one. n/t Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #92
Yup. Agschmid Oct 2017 #106
I guarantee she is ranting about this demtenjeep Oct 2017 #118
Over 4800 views of this post. lpbk2713 Oct 2017 #119
Easier than breathlessly repeating what she just heard on Univision Codeine Oct 2017 #120
or her all trusty scanner demtenjeep Oct 2017 #126
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #127
So Long, Farewell... Purveyor Oct 2017 #128
She is just an attention starved fanatic. Fuck her. phleshdef Oct 2017 #134

MuseRider

(35,176 posts)
1. I enjoy her on Facebook.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 11:52 PM
Oct 2017

She has done some wonderful work covering different stories, especially the earthquake in Mexico.

Brother Buzz

(39,863 posts)
15. She was a lot of things.....
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:31 AM
Oct 2017

Teacher, Artist, EMT (still not sure if you think that is the same as a Paramedic), Combat, Chemist, Author, Journalist, Trauma Surgeon, Ballistics Expert, Telemetry, Nuclear Physicist, Hazmat First Responder, Paramedic Instructor, President and CEO, Paranormal Activity Investigator, Coal Mine Safety Expert, Bridge Engineering, Software Developer, Producer, Space Exploration and Jet Propulsion Scientist, Veterinary Clinic Worker, Protein-Folding Expert, Quantum Mechanics and String Theory Expert, Postal Worker, Dietitian, Farmer, Dairy Products Specialist, Alternative Energy Expert, Theologian, History Analyst?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
101. When didn't she bash us? There's nothing she or any basher could
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:59 PM
Oct 2017

have done that could have kept ME from voting for the candidate of my choice. She just badly needs to convince herself that those who didn't vote Democrat all were forced by intolerable circumstances to help the right take over our government in 2016.

Uhuh. Unfortunately for our nation, those leftists who constantly insulted the Democratic Party, Hillary, liberals (including me) in practically every possible way, including flocking to candidates who fanned and gratified their hostility, didn't vote for Democrats because of what they are.

They trashed their country because, in the end, they chose to do that over voting for Democrats, every bit as much as those on the right.

Signed, Not-exactly-a-corrupt-corporatist-third-way-DINO.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
111. You have the patience of a saint, gleaning that from her nonsense
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 06:05 PM
Oct 2017

Nadin makes my brain hurt.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
112. Lol. Far from saintly. Haven't read her posts for years and definitely not
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 06:22 PM
Oct 2017

responded, and the thought of actually coming on and reading her elsewhere is cringeworthy. She PMed me a couple of times when I was pretty new, and those interchanges showed me that she and I don't think, process information, whatever, alike and certainly don't arrive at the same conclusions. Attempting to find something we both understand in the same way would be a great waste of time. For her as well as me.

And zero excuses for those legally competent to vote who didn't vote Democrat in 2016. They own all they helped bring down on America.

Scoopster

(423 posts)
34. Ohhh okay.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 09:15 AM
Oct 2017

You're saying she's an obvious liar. Took me a moment there. I'm not really clued in to whoever the heck this person is.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
54. I believe that she in fact had met Mr. Mitty several times and had a very good "on the record"
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:21 PM
Oct 2017

interview with him where she was able to clear up many of the misconceptions and reporting about Mr. Mitty. She made us aware that Mr. Mitty was the object of savage misreporting and rumor mongering ever since he stood up in a crowded Rotary meeting in Cleveland and told everyone that he was a friend of Adlai Stevenson and that if he was elected Mitty was going to leave them all behind and become Postmaster General in the Stevenson administration. She should have gotten a Pulitzer for that interview alone.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
70. This wasn't long ago at all. I take it you are joking here. Or there. lol
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:53 PM
Oct 2017

"Had an inflated view of her standing in journalism (I lived in San Diego County and never heard of the East County Magazine ) and published wildly inaccurate stories that wouldn't have passed a high school newspaper test for journalistic accuracy. " Grantcart

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028600542#post18

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
97. In as much as Walter Mitty was a fictional product of James Thurber's
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:21 PM
Oct 2017

imagination you can assume that humor was the objective.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
98. I thought Walter Kitty was conjured up by Barbara Hicks.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:23 PM
Oct 2017

Shows you what I know.

Either that or by your description humor was not the objective.

"In as much as Walter Kitty was a fictional product of James Thurber's"

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
80. When questioned about her relation to Mr. Mitty
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:25 PM
Oct 2017

Brzezinski gave an answer she later characterized as a "non-denial denial."

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
3. "They drove many to stay home...or vote third party", what utter bullshit. Anyone who believes this
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 11:55 PM
Oct 2017

malarkey, that the moderators motivated these "so-called progressives" to not vote for the Democratic nominee, because the Supreme Court, Women's Rights, workers rights, Civil Rights, the environment, healthcare, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and a 100 other issues were not reason enough, perhaps needs to seek professional help



radical noodle

(10,578 posts)
18. Seems to me it was that other site
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:03 AM
Oct 2017

that motivated so-called progressives to not vote for the Democratic nominee. This site was pretty squarely behind Hillary after the convention. I remember Nadin from that time.

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
30. Actually, there were many people we told to eff-off when they tried to express their struggle.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 08:33 AM
Oct 2017

We can't back away from it. Many people thought they weren't needed because HRC was a sure thing.

You may not like it, but, collectively, DU should own our part.
 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
39. You mean like this
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 10:12 AM
Oct 2017
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1280104210

Or those who called President Obama a "POS used car salesman, and said to him, 'FU"", or those who called Hillary the "c" word, and every other vile name in the book.

Or those that said you we need to have a reason to vote "FOR" someone, because the Supreme Court, Civil Rights, Women's Rights, Workers Rights, environmental rights, healthcare, social security, medicare, medicaid, etc. etc. etc. were NOT REASON ENOUGH.

The DU administrators do NOT "own" what happened, nor do those that voted for the Democratic nominee, but those who willfully REFUSED to vote for the Democratic nominee, and have no remorse or regret, or recognize the stupidity of their actions, and in fact would do the same thing again, DO OWN THIS, and they have blood on their hands




aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
45. Not like that, obviously.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 11:52 AM
Oct 2017

Im not talking about saying mean things about candidates. It is about Democrats/DUers telling non-Democratic VOTERS to eff-off and pretending like we didn't need them out of hubris or anger.

Are you still upset about people calling Obama and HRC names? Really?

I didn't say DU administrators we to blame for sending away marginalized potential Democratic voters -- I said we are, collectively.
 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
49. The OP was referring to a previous DU alumni, who made that accusation against the DU admins,
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:11 PM
Oct 2017

and that is baloney

and just who are these "non-Democratic" voters that DUer's are telling to FO?






Me.

(35,454 posts)
53. That Makes No SEnse
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:19 PM
Oct 2017

Why would we need non-democratic voters, people who won't vote for our candidate...aren't they Republicons or Steinites?

Me.

(35,454 posts)
95. I'd Rather Time & Effort Was Spent On 'Leaning Dem'
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:07 PM
Oct 2017

Instead of wasting both chasing shadows. When people tell you who they are I tend to believe them.

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
96. Sticking to the low lying fruit is fine, but that not how elections are won.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:16 PM
Oct 2017

There are plenty of people working with the "leaning Democratic" crowd.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
104. That's Exactly How Elections Are Won
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 04:11 PM
Oct 2017

There are more Dems in this country than the others, GOTV, we win. And don't think there aren't Dems in red states, they are basically ignored. There's a wisdom to dancing with the one who brought you and those are minorities/ especially black women, LGBTQ, and women/especially black women. And when we stop chasing dreams and working on ending gerrymandering and putting disenfranchised voters back on the rolls DEms will be more effective. Even dogs know chasing your tail gets one nowhere.

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
115. I say both.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 06:37 PM
Oct 2017

We've been pushing GOTV hard for 40 years and we still can't get demographic Democrats to the polls. We get the low lying fruit, but there's not enough of them.

Swinging the swing voters is hard work too, but look what happened in Michigan. It doesn't take much.

Response to Me. (Reply #53)

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
51. Turns out they were right, Bernie Sanders could not win
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:16 PM
Oct 2017

Now I know that hurts to hear it, and it pisses of Sanders supporters, and did indeed hurt Hillary in the General.

Sometimes hearing the truth is the hardest hurt of all.

But it doesn't mean we all hate Bernie or his message.

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
75. Its still an unanswerable question on how Bernie would have done in the GE.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:17 PM
Oct 2017

And I don't hate Hillary or her message.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
84. that is certainly true regarding the General election
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:39 PM
Oct 2017

And I certainly did not mean that Bernie folk hated Hillary's message.

I wanted to say that Hillary supporters did not hate Bernie nor his message.

Sometimes I don't get across what I mean to get across. I apologize if I was confusing.

All the Best!

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
67. If you can see this ...you chose to vote third party...no Democrat is worse than a GOP, and if you
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:48 PM
Oct 2017

don't understand that you are voting for the party and their platform and the party with the majority calls the tune ...then you were probably not smart enough for this site...and a big fuck you if you didn't vote for Hillary...Millions will be hurt by Trump...and a handful of check your privilege, care for nobodies, pure assholes such as yourself helped him gain office.

Squinch

(59,411 posts)
108. Seriously. What kind of an infant do you have to be to let someone else decide your vote for you?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 05:48 PM
Oct 2017

Eko

(9,974 posts)
4. Thats actually tame
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:00 AM
Oct 2017

to the confrontations I had with her. She personally blamed me, personally, for all kinds of crazy stuff that I had nothing to do with. I should search for it but with Dump as president Ive had enough for a while.

Eko

(9,974 posts)
8. Had to look one up.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:09 AM
Oct 2017

"I will blame you EKO personally if Prop does not pass by a narrow margin. It is your fucking attitude that is not helping. Oh and spare me your GOTV and party activism ok".
This was a CA prop, I dont even live on the west coast lol.

Eko

(9,974 posts)
123. She held me responsible later in the thread
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 08:25 PM
Oct 2017

for other stuff too, then she said the same thing to someone else and I complained that "I" was personally responsible and she couldn't take that away from me and give it to someone else. She didn't take kindly to that at all.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
5. Where was this posted?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:00 AM
Oct 2017

I did see her GBCW to the Admins -- so I completely understand why she (and some others) had their access turned off. Back in Ye Old Days she and I had some interesting and informative exchanges -- but as the saying goes, that was then and this is now. Something changed on her part, though -- I was not the only one to let her go her own way.

salin

(48,958 posts)
71. CBGW?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:56 PM
Oct 2017

I am so behind. Don't know what that stands for, didn't see her post, nor did I see what she is referring to in the fb post from the OP.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
78. GBCW is short for Good-Bye Cruel World
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:20 PM
Oct 2017

Used generically to refer to a post or email that announces a departure from a site. The usual connotation is to disparage whatever the author wrote, without troubling to address the merits.

On a completely unrelated side note, I titled my post "GBCW = Good-Bye Cruel World" but the equal sign wouldn't display in the title, so I had to revise it. It displays here in text, though.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
93. "Without troubling to address the merits"? -- I guess you had to have been there
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:58 PM
Oct 2017

Oh deary, deary me. See post#58 for elucidation.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
11. That particular former poster is definitely NOT missed by true Democrats. She was one once,
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:15 AM
Oct 2017

long long ago.

A shame she lost her way.

GusBob

(8,239 posts)
13. *acknowledge* *repeatedly* *neoliberals*
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:21 AM
Oct 2017

THIS IS A FUCKING JOURNALIST??

Her writing was and is horrific. Always full of grade school grammar and spelling errors.

I wouldn't line a bird cage with her work.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
14. This was alerted on.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:29 AM
Oct 2017

How can one alert on post about a banned, PPR poster as bashing democrats? Unless they were talking about the things that PPR poster said in her letter, I guess - but that's a far stretch. You posting this letter is just a reminder that this board is better off without that poster.

Anyone who was driven "to stay home... or vote third party" by what people did on DU are narcissistic assholes who put their own hurt fee-fees over the lives of women, minorities, and whole swathes of the population. Their childish tantrum made them willing to kill, second-hand, people who need health care, LGBTQIA people, Muslims, women in need of abortions, people who are differently abled - in short, they had no problems sacrificing the most vulnerable to their own purity.

Nadin, and everyone who voted third party or deliberately stayed home in protest, are holding bloody towels from mopping up the blood on Republican hands.

concreteblue

(626 posts)
17. Wow. Are you prepared to be told what else you just said?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:38 AM
Oct 2017

I remember seeing the name of the poster in question, but that is all I remember. However, I agree in part with what she apparently said in the quotes in OP. And you are proving the point.
"Nadin, and everyone who voted third party or deliberately stayed home in protest, are holding bloody towels from mopping up the blood on Republican hands."
Are you ready to accept responsibility for the actual blood on the hands of elected Democrats who vote for continuing military action in Yemen, Syria, etc?
Yes, Not electing Democrats harms what should be the agenda of the Democratic Party. But the kind of over the top holier-than-thou proclamations such as I have quoted invite criticisms like I have provided.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
22. Voting for Democratic politicians is trying to improve everyone's life situations.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 04:10 AM
Oct 2017

We know that even though it will not be perfect, will never be perfect, the aim of all the policies the Democrats espouse is a better life for as many as possible. And yes, that means taking responsibility for when we fail to make people's lives better. However, that failure is not the goal of our politics.

For the Republicans that is not the case. Not voting Democratic, or deliberately not voting at all, is supporting the destructive agenda of the Republicans. It is wishing people harm. Their policies entail being willing to let people die, or in fact, being willing to deliberately put them in harm's way, or being willing to actively kill them. And I see a marked and significant difference in unintentionally hurting people while working to make their lives better versus refusing to stop Republicans from deliberately hurting people because you are throwing a childish tantrum.

You may see it differently. That's your prerogative. But don't expect me to condone it, and not blaming you if you put your feelings above other people's lives.

concreteblue

(626 posts)
133. "Put my feelings above other people's lives"
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:13 PM
Oct 2017

Really? REALLY?????!!!
Again, you prove the point. Nothing in my post remotely feeds your response/conclusion. But, you DO prove my point. Thank you.

Squinch

(59,411 posts)
110. I lulzed. So are you saying you don't vote for Democrats?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 06:00 PM
Oct 2017

No, dear. Both sides are not the same.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
135. You brought it back to life!!!!
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:15 PM
Oct 2017

And here I was thinking “that will be the day a wind turbine blade flies a quarter of a mile”

Who knew?

kcr

(15,522 posts)
87. You can get alerted on for ending a sentence in a preposition
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:52 PM
Oct 2017

Because someone thinks you're on the wrong side of whatever DU "war" is going on, or they've mistaken you for someone who is. If you even give the impression you've taken a side, expect to get alerted on frequently. For years I didn't get a single post removed. 2016 primary season with DU's jury alert system changed that. I'm afraid to admit that all it's done is made me angrier and saltier. It's an antagonistic system.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
24. I wonder what it's like to go through life with such an active imagination.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 07:45 AM
Oct 2017

One where reality is intertwined with the absurd.

Sounds like it could be amazing or absolute madness. Maybe both.

Zero journalistic integrity. Zero.

BannonsLiver

(20,541 posts)
38. I don't know her
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 10:09 AM
Oct 2017

But based on this thread and the other from a few weeks ago it reminds me of Walter Mitty.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
42. Walter Mitty. Very interesting.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 11:41 AM
Oct 2017

I have seen some great articles by Nadine. I have also seen completely made up articles with no basis in reality. It's really strange. There are Walter Mitty like aspects when it comes to her profession from one week to the next.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
58. "Pulitzer"
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:25 PM
Oct 2017



https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028600542#post5

This deserves a Pulitzer

Nadine

Subject: Password

I know you probably do not want me back, It is mutual.

Can you send me the password reset so I can do that, basic fucking cyber security, and i can move on and away from your fucking DLC site? I know I am not the only actual liberal who will stay away from your neoliberal site, At least be honest who you want to cater to. But seriously, you say you were hacked, you insist people reset their passwords... basic cyber security. If you were hacked or not it is really not my business, nor do I care.

I really do not care for your type, the Limousine insider DC, so called liberal. but really, basic cyber security.

Oh and I have tried using your fucking system to reset it and move on at least 5 times, one from Mexico incidentally during a shive. (the week of mourning in the Jewish tradition, I do not expect you to know that)

Nadinbrezezinski is my fucking user name.

Incidentally, I told your fucking party it was making a Weimar level mistake when you nominated HRC, enjoy that. I told you guys you were doing that before you did that before the primaries were over, and incidentally, my ROV used white out in San Diego to erase Sanders votes, welcome to the Torta effect. (yes it went to court by the way, and the ROV lost)

It is YOUR FUCKING PARTY. Neither democrats or republicans represent me, a simple working class media person that called Trump a fascist. But I am a working class member, and I get it why he got elected. But your party chose to steal the primaries. You are as guilty as the SDs were for the same fucking mistake at the twilight of the Weimar Republic. Historians are sure to call it exactly that.

But can I get that, so I can fucking move on?

Thank you.
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
44. For the ridiculous drama she stirred up?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 11:46 AM
Oct 2017

She once sent me a bunch of PM's. They started pretty reasonable (if you could decipher what she was saying), but by the end, they were.... unhinged... is all I can think of to call them. It one message after another of how the Democratic establishment was out to silence here. Oh boy....

boston bean

(36,929 posts)
28. She was the biggest bully claiming to be bullied I have ever run into on DU. Oh the victim she was,
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 08:23 AM
Oct 2017

riiiiiiight..... She has some serious issues. And is really not a nice person.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
117. no kidding
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 08:01 PM
Oct 2017

anytime anyone pointed out something contrary to what she knew to be correct we were being mean and bullying her.

I just somehow found this latest hate fest from her while I was looking for something else and got a chuckle out of it.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
40. You've been here 2 months?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 10:24 AM
Oct 2017

That former member had been here 13 years, and has a very colorful history, to say the least.



Orrex

(67,057 posts)
61. Once you reach 500 posts, it won't be an issue
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:38 PM
Oct 2017

At that point, members gain the impressive ability to not read threads that they find off-putting or that don't interest them.

Patience!

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
65. Well gosh
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:46 PM
Oct 2017

Thanks for condescending to egimacate me. Now I have something to aspire to.

Orrex

(67,057 posts)
69. In my defense, you seemed to be unaware of this aspect of DU
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:49 PM
Oct 2017

And since you peevishly replied "So what?" to another member, you made it clear that you're fine with condescension.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
72. Fair points.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:00 PM
Oct 2017

I guess what I am reacting/over-reacting to is the mismatch between me and DU. It's not gonna work I think.

Fair winds and following seas.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
59. I think you're confusing 'bemusement' with 'obsession.'
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:29 PM
Oct 2017

I think you're confusing 'bemusement' with 'obsession.'

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
62. You'll of course, support your premise with objective evidence
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:41 PM
Oct 2017

There is no obsessive behavior illustrated on this thread... unless of course, you wish to point it out for us, and explain how the posts fits within the definition of obsession, and why it does not fit within the definition of bemusement..

Yet, if you are indeed, unable or unwilling to support your premise with actual evidence, I completely understand.

OilemFirchen

(7,288 posts)
36. I smell a Pullet Surprise.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 09:52 AM
Oct 2017
This surprises me, or shocks me in the least.

Ah, journalism. Where shock is milder than surprise.

For Nadine, because it's that time again, here's a pumpkin:

MineralMan

(151,175 posts)
37. Oh, dear...
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 10:03 AM
Oct 2017

A number of former DUers are writing things elsewhere these days. Those who follow them know where to find them.

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
47. generally found her interesting...miss her
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 11:59 AM
Oct 2017

whether she should or should not be here way above my pay grade and i am not arguing her removal

just found her interesting

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
113. or i missed it...i must admit there are a few who have bashed me in the past
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 06:22 PM
Oct 2017

and i must admit i lack the take the high road restraint of obama.....

still i have been called fewer names here than i get called on facebook

mvd

(65,908 posts)
48. Why bash the mods?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:07 PM
Oct 2017

I was one and know the hard work they did. I also am pretty far to the left.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
52. I was amused at how she considered herself somehow a legit journalist and thus better than us.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:18 PM
Oct 2017

treestar

(82,383 posts)
109. and also that she had some big scoop
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 05:49 PM
Oct 2017

like she was letting us in on some big thing. Weird how San Diego was the center of the world, and the big stuff was always happening in the East County.

The Comicon Convention was the best though, what with the CIA agents there and all.

Turin_C3PO

(16,385 posts)
63. I liked some of her posts early on.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:43 PM
Oct 2017

But she kind of went off the rails as the years went by.

stranger81

(2,345 posts)
64. This thread is pathetic.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:44 PM
Oct 2017

If you're reduced to spending your time mocking posters who have no opportunity to respond here, might I suggest a more constructive -- and less mean-spirited -- hobby?

ProfessorGAC

(76,602 posts)
74. Were You Replying That Way To The Poster Referenced In The OP?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:06 PM
Oct 2017

Because it would have been appropriate.

eleny

(46,176 posts)
81. I was asking the OP to let it alone
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:26 PM
Oct 2017

As someone else replied, she's not here to defend herself. No sense in being uncivil at this point.

I won't belabor this any longer. And I don't want to kick this thread any more than I have. So I'm done.

BainsBane

(57,750 posts)
76. I hope shes happy about all the deaths in Puerto Rico
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:18 PM
Oct 2017

occurring because Trump doesn’t give a damn. As far as I’m concerned, people like her who put their egos over the well-being of the world are complicit in those deaths, as much as Trump is. When they refused to vote for Clinton, they chose to kill, they chose to cause suffering among the poor and marginalized, and they succeeded. That makes them worse than bankers and corporate CEOs. That she now boasts of putting Trump in office reveals her to be a truly malevolent person who actively seeks to make the world as ugly and destructive as her soul. Her only political ideology is narcissism; there is little wonder she chose Trump.




Eliot Rosewater

(34,284 posts)
86. Every word you write here is true.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:46 PM
Oct 2017

Wanna know what makes it even more maddening?

Still happening. Gonna see a repeat. Gonna see endless media coverage of a certain group who will back only CERTAIN candidates.

Now oddly enough the one concern that WONT be mentioned is anything to do with guns. Weird that.

My hope is that DU becomes the place where ALL members agree to vote for ANY democrat who statistically has the best chance of winning in her or his state or district. ANY.

Tom Rinaldo

(23,187 posts)
90. Little known fact about that poster
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:01 PM
Oct 2017

After the JPR Forum was started, while the primaries were still on, Nadin left DU and went there. I never left DU of course, but I started to re-post the same pro Bernie OPs that I posted at DU over there as well (and yes I got a little flak there for being pro-Bernie without being anti-Hillary also). JPR started veering further into becoming an anti-Hillary forum (and less pro-Bernie) after it became increasingly apparent Hillary would win the nomination and that Bernie would endorse her. I stuck around for awhile to post anti-Trump material there after the Democratic Convention (and finally stopped posting there after I got reprimanded for being soley focused on stopping Trump).

Sorry for that long prologue, but it is dangerous to state that I ever participated at JPR without first providing the above context. So I will admit that Nadin impressed me with her integrity over one point at least. More and more "fake news" started being posted at JPR from highly dubious sources. Stuff about how Hillary was covering up a grave physical illness and the like. Anyway, while I was still there trying to convince folks that Trump was a grave danger, Nadin blasted JPR posters for re-posting and approving of illegitimate hit jobs against Hillary pushing conspiracies that weren't supported by facts. She thought it cheapened the entire forum to traffic in such garbage. Nadin got heavy push back over "free speech" and members not wanting JPR to censor content. Nadin argued about it for about a day and then she told JPR that under the circumstances, given how JPR was being used, she would have nothing further to do with that forum, and she left. A fair number of people asked her to reconsider but she was gone, far as I know for good.

BainsBane

(57,750 posts)
91. In the post above she says she didn't vote for Hillary
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:27 PM
Oct 2017

presumably because of the DU administrators, which is the worst excuse I've seen.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
120. Easier than breathlessly repeating what she just heard on Univision
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 08:14 PM
Oct 2017

and passing it off as Journalism.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
126. or her all trusty scanner
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 10:32 PM
Oct 2017

I never in the age of computers knew why she always referred to her scanner

my spouse's grandparents used to listen to their scanner for fun-they were 90

Response to demtenjeep (Original post)

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
134. She is just an attention starved fanatic. Fuck her.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:15 PM
Oct 2017

She is just the other side of the coin from Bravenak. Neither of them are actually useful.

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