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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid you notice how pitch-perfect and appropriate Trump was in Las Vegas?
None of the gaffes or glaring narcissism. What he said was respectful in word and tone. His behavior was what one would expect.
It stood in utterly drastic contrast to the way he behaved in Puerto Rico the previous day. It also makes things all the more appalling.
Why? Because it shows a capability to control his behavior. It means the logorrhea, the outbursts of ugliness and bigotry and selfishness aren't due to a lack of impulse control. This means he can indeed discern the difference himself.
We saw it on Monday when he tweeted his condolences for the Las Vegas victims in the early morning then abstained from the medium for the rest of the day. There were no easy shots at his political opponents, no attempts to goad or outrage. Just nothing.
Why the difference? Why now? Why with this?
Because Trump sees Las Vegas as "his kind of town." This violence strikes at his essence.
Most importantly, the shooter took aim at legions of country music fans, the exact demographic perceived as Trump's base. "His people" were emotionally raw. Were he to exploit their tragedy for political points, for jibes and jabs at enemies and easy targets, then they would take note and he would lose traction with them.
Instead, we get a Trump that sounds like we expect a President to sound, using words that sounded compassionate, saddened and sympathetic. It shows he indeed has the capacity but he only saves it for certain citizens.
It also reveals him to be more duplicitous and malevolent than we ever dreamed. It unveils the monster at the helm.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)What is the point?
pansypoo53219
(23,034 posts)the MONEY.
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)He thinks they are republicans.
Also a good photo op.
He is evil.
bdamomma
(69,532 posts)it was a quick turnaround from his horrible display in Puerto Rico, throwing out paper towels. He is a fucking racist, period. He is still a jerk and very disconnected from everything.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)the Sheriff was looking pretty disgusted at having to be a prop in the whole shitshow.. his looks at the back of shitgibon's head are truly telling.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)No stinking stupid, insulting paper towel fun-time festival.
No public demeaning of any of the women, or the values embodied in local culture.
LV is not PR. LV is the kind of town that suits a casino hustler with a long track record of bankruptcies, and a horde of accusations by small businesses that he cheated them.
In addition to everything thing else, the ignoble, republican "family values" role model Comrade Casino* is a calculating cuss.
* republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)Odd number of recommendations , I know, but our "president" is about as odd as they come.
YOUR take on Trump's behavior, however, is spot on.
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vlyons
(10,252 posts)One would think that some decent person would step up and tell Trump to his face that his performance in PR did not look so hot. Because performance is all it is. You may have thought that Trump was pitch perfect in Vegas, but it reeked of insincerity to my ears.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Then I turned to my son and said "I wonder what medications they have him on?" His speech was slow, deliberate as though he had to think carefully before reading the speech someone wrote for him. Is THIS why Maleria has go go with him on every trip now, to regulate his meds? Also, I read that Kelly wanted to go along, but he was left behind.
Grammy23
(6,122 posts)They just tell him its his special sugar.
Just kidding, of course, but perhaps there is a grain of truth to this. He does appear more docile, even subdued, from time to time. His handlers knew he had to behave in LV and didnt want to chance it that hed stray from the script or make an inappropriate ad lib.
misanthrope
(9,495 posts)Just that he stayed on script and actually sounded vaguely somber in his tone.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Puerto Rico - With the exception of the rich neighborhood he spent a couple hours making a show in, doesn't matter to him, or his base. Many of his base and "approved" news sources have made it clear they don't even consider them "actual" Americans.
Nevada - Attack happened in a venue that rings personal to a larger portion to his fan base (Country Music). Likely had more of his supporters in that venue that his supporters can relate to. If it had been a U2 (or some liberal performer) concert, or any other liberal group it would have much less support from him or his base. If it had been any kind of minority cultural music with the victims being mostly minority, it would have much less support from him or his base.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)No good stories there.
In fact, they have been mostly quiet about tRump for a while. They are hanging in there, still approving, but a lot of them are not too happy about it.
SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)who have a much stronger constitution than my own, to actually watch and listen to the Orange Menace. Your reporting of his words and demeanor is greatly appreciated. Without you, my DU brothers and sisters, I would have no idea what the Moron-in Chief is saying in order to bullshit Americans into thinking he's "on the job".
You all deserve my respect and admiration. Thank you!
JI7
(93,616 posts)If they were muslim or Latino he would be talking about needing the ban or the wall.
If they were black be would blame black athletes who kneeled.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)I've no doubt that we'd have the largest political exploitation of a tragedy since 1933 on our hands if the shooter had been anything other than what he was racially, culturally, and faith-wise.
Hell, there's still RW talking heads shilling the "he was ISIS" false meme to try to drive a different narrative.
misanthrope
(9,495 posts)Because that was certainly a tragedy exploited to the utmost.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)9/11 was most certainly exploited by the shrub. I offer no argument about that.
I'm pretty sure this orange baboon would take exploitation to a much lower depth. Shrub at lease remained within the confines of the powers the office affords him.
I've a feeling rumpus would power grab like crazy and damned with what laws, or courts say. He'd make the Patriot act look like child's play. I could see him enacting something that would really lock down on opposing viewpoints including suspending right of habeas corpus, freedom of expression, freedom of the press, the right of free association and public assembly.
bdamomma
(69,532 posts)I don't know there could be more to this story. Unless the guy lost all of his money, but he was a coward he killed himself.
Fritz Walter
(4,370 posts)And *45 is quite skilled at it.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)practice. This is not meant to disparage the Las Vegas Police in any way, it's just that Trump has been lot of experience since he announced his candidacy sucking up to police departments wherever he goes, so he happens to be quite good at it. Consoling hurricane victims, not so much. Poor brown and people, none at all. He doesn't have any experience being empathetic to those people and chances are he's too old to change. So lets just get rid of him as fast as we can. Meuller are you listening.
wishstar
(5,829 posts)He is worse than just a mean vindictive unhinged loose cannon because he (assisted by his policymaker and speech writer Stephen Miller) is maliciously calculating and manipulative depending on situation and how he thinks his behavior will appeal to his base. He showed respect and constraint in Las Vegas because he wasn't object of criticism and believes the victims represent his uncritical adoring supporters. He didn't hesitate to insult the mayor and people of Puerto Rico after he faced criticism over the disaster since he knew his deplorable behavior blaming Puerto Ricans would strike a chord of approval with his base and deflect any criticism against him.
misanthrope
(9,495 posts)An even more sociopathic P.T. Barnum.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,270 posts)Vinca
(53,994 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)In fact, it can make them worse.
hatrack
(64,887 posts)I'll read a transcript, or a tweet, but otherwise FUCK HIM.
AllyCat
(18,842 posts)We loved it when there were parties because she was nice to us for a few hours. They were usually folks wealthier than us she wanted to schmooze. It's controllable when they want to do it. And as you point out, THEY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
Zoonart
(14,465 posts)their genius is in knowing what buttons to push and when. The only difference is that some are more highly intelligent than others, like any other psychological subset of the population, and some are better actors.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It was so sickening to see them change like that to impress others and then snap back to their cruel, abusive selves when the guests left. I think that's why he triggers me so much. He's so phony. He can put on a show when he needs to, but his baseline is just being a vindictive, small-minded prick.
spanone
(141,609 posts)bdamomma
(69,532 posts)brown people, you can see how he drips of racism. He learned that from his daddy.
randr
(12,648 posts)Duppers
(28,469 posts)And I think he was warned not to go off medsage by someone.
Wounded Bear
(64,324 posts)Perhaps better than usual since he's had some practice, and they probably upped his meds before he took the podium.
I consider it a problem if he learns to fake sincerity well.
3catwoman3
(29,406 posts)Probably not too much risk of that.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I've seen nothing he's done that seems "presidential".
RussBLib
(10,635 posts)And it made my skin crawl. He can't even fake sincerity.
haveahart
(905 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)He clearly doesn't believe what he's reading. He only gets animated when he's sneering and mocking people.
Beringia
(5,507 posts)You know it is him when he is more animated.
Ilsa
(64,371 posts)Meter to it. I bet that is the exact voice he has used for decades because he can't feel real empathy. It was his fake empathy voice.
bigtree
(94,261 posts)...something someone else wrote for him.
NCDem47
(3,470 posts)Seriously, it was SO obvious his disdain for Puerto Ricans and his "respect" for those in LV.
Brown = hate, white = love.
It was clear he was on a short leash in LV, but left to riff in PR. As others have said, pandering to his base.
IT IS BECOMING SO PREDICTABLE NOW!! You could have scripted this outcome on Monday.
hexola
(4,835 posts)Yeah - it wasn't the typical garbage - but it was still pretty damn phony.
MyOwnPeace
(17,557 posts)to be thrown off by his behavior.
It "may have been" more appropriate for the occasion, but, by GAWD, we know it was not HIS typical behavior.
He's a fraud - and has a crew that are pulling the strings on the puppet to make it "seem" like leadership.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)That's why his popularity with them stays so strong no matter what he says or does or how incompetent he is.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)misanthrope
(9,495 posts)and veers into improvised sections that get him in trouble.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)samnsara
(18,767 posts)..capable of hiding his hate very well
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(34,285 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I know it's fake, but it looks very real.
doc03
(39,086 posts)think he has any god but money and Donald Trump. Besides that he read it like a 3rd grader.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,721 posts)The bar is inches above the center of Earth's core.