I think Im having a stroke. GOP reps are calling for bump stock bans

[NightWatcher]

Rep Kinzinger (R) is on CNN and another Republican guy from Texas are talking about how dangerous they are and that they violate the spirit of the 2nd Amendment and should be banned “for the safety of their constituents”.

Have they okay’d it with their NRA overlords? Will they, do they even care at this point?

*Hits floor*

[Proud Liberal Dem]

1. Wait until there is an actual vote and it passes

and then Trump signs it. Then we can all start "stroking" out.

[TheBlackAdder]

11. Yep. Those GOPers talk big now, but when it comes time to vote, they will quietly vote against it.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

2. A broke clock is right

Well you know.

Yea these have to be banned although you will get a few:

"Well the small business man will get hurt yadda yadda"

[Not Ruth]

3. Trading away what they never really wanted anyway

They will bundle in pork for all, it will pass, everyone will look good and get paid.

[SHRED]

4. Not just a ban

I'm hoping it'll be a felony to own one.

[Fred Sanders]

5. Semi-automatics can still be easily converted and so need to be banned as well.

[friendly_iconoclast]

20. Which will happen only in the dreams of gun prohibitionists...

That said, I'm still down with banning bump stocks.

[GusFring]

6. Im seeing alot about they were approved under Obama. Which appears to actually be

true. So maybe they see it as an opportunity to fix something Obama did.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

8. What's the story behind that?

Doubt it was something that he was pushing for........

[GusFring]

16. The ATF approved them under his administration. The atf guy that did it sounds conservative.

Marine amd he's doing firearm training in South Carolina. Definitely a republican.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/the-goofy-little-doodad-approved-under-obama-that-was-used-in-las-vegas-carnage/2017/10/04/3a1a2104-a935-11e7-850e-2bdd1236be5d_story.html

[Proud Liberal Dem]

18. Sounds like it wasn't something that he didn't personally advocate/sign off on

[exboyfil]

13. Yes that is the narrative

forgetting that the ATF rules on what is the law. If it is not prohibited by the law, then it is legal. Democrats introduced legislation after Sandy Hook to ban bump stocks, but it went no where (it was included with a larger bill).

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/politics/kellyanne-conway-white-house-las-vegas/index.html

http://www.ocregister.com/2013/02/24/dianne-feinstein-the-truth-about-new-assault-weapons-ban/

[ileus]

7. We'll have to see what all the final bill is stoked with that causes it's demise.

[Act_of_Reparation]

9. They're buying goodwill with something they don't want or need.

I don't think the GOP stands to lose too many votes banning bump stocks. They're a novelty item most firearms enthusiasts either scoff at or buy for shits and giggles alone. No one will miss them.

In the meantime, it will look like the GOP did something in response to Las Vegas, when in reality they did pretty much nothing. It's win-win for them. Don't expect this signals a change in direction.

[exboyfil]

10. Expanded magazines?

Actually any semiautomatic that has a detachable magazine should be strictly regulated (yes that includes the most popular handguns).

Remember the 3rd deadliest shooting was done by someone using two semiautomatic hand guns.

I guess I could see situations where a citizen could get into a firefight where six shots are not sufficient, but it would be extremely rare.

Estimates of the economic damage related to this shooting is approaching $1B. Think about it - $50,000? in guns and ammo. Those sorts of numbers might make Republicans sit up and take notice.

[still_one]

12. This is what Diane Feinstein introduced yesterday, and it appears some republicans may be on board

[dembotoz]

14. anticipate a new and improved version with different tech will be on shelves soon

so lets ban the old version and make the nra sheeple buy the new more expensive ones

[gratuitous]

15. Big talk, little action is my prediction

Either that, or any legislation that finally gets through the sausage factory will be meaningless, as some wily entrepreneurial type will tweak the design of a bump stock so that it isn't covered by the law.

Maybe a 10,000% tax on ammunition to fund medical treatment for victims of gun play?

[elehhhhna]

17. This is just a threat to get the gun manufacturers to pony up more fucking money

This is just a threat to get the gun manufacturers to pony up more fucking money. Once They get paid, this whole conversation will change

[Caliman73]

19. Sacraficial lamb

It's not a bad thing that they are doing it, but their intentions are not good. Bump stocks are fairly widely reviled in the shooting community. Some people think they are fun, but to many, they are dumb, dangerous, and a waste of ammunition which is usually not very inexpensive.

What Republicans are doing here is sacrificing a pawn to save the King. They will vote to make bump stocks illegal for 2 reasons. 1. To say, "there, see we did something on gun control...ya happy now let's move on". 2. Someone will challenge the legislation using the ATF's guidance on bump stocks not actually being a part of the firearm, and the Supreme court or some conservative lower court, will likely rule the ban unconstitutional.

That is my cynical take on this.

[Kaleva]

24. I agree with you

[Towlie]

21. And why not? A ban might help defuse the debate, and they can make their own with 3D printers.

[Alea]

22. DiFi's Bill is clean and may pass as is.

If our side sticks hi cap mags or scary features in the Bill it will fail because Repubs won't allow it. If the Repubs pork it up, our side won't vote for it.

It needs to be a clean Bill, as hers is at this time.

[Kaleva]

23. They are offering it because it wont make a difference

It's feel good legislation meant to placate us from pursuing meaningful reforms.

[Lee-Lee]

25. Because it is feel good legislation that won't stop any crime and wouldn't have changed this event

All a bump stock is composed of is some springs or another spring like material on the stock tray absorbs recoil and pushes the firearm forward as it rebounds.

You can put a sneaker over the end of the stock and shoulder it to the same result. Had these stocks been banned 10 years ago this guy probably would have just done something like that or simply put a spring inside a collapsible stock.

A bump stock ban is going to accomplish zero when it comes to reducing any crime. Nothing at all.

But it will as written turn a lot of people who have never broken the law into felons unless they give up personal property without compensation.

All in all it will probably do more to make the GOP base mad and boost NRA membership while changing zero about public safety. They probably see it as sacrificing an obscure toy few people like in order to have long term gains in support.

[Thomas Hurt]

26. tsk, tsk, the pimps are going to be sooo pi**ed...