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trof

(54,256 posts)
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 06:16 PM Oct 2017

OK, here's how post disaster debris cleanup works.

This is based on my experience working for a contractor after Hurricane Ivan in 2004. I assume not much has changed with FEMA.

1. Homeowner is responsible for get debris to streetside.

2. Debris should be separated.
A, Cut up downed tees and any other ORGANIC material in one pile. This will be ground into 'mulch' or whatever.
B. Construction materials in another pile. Carpet, drywall, flooring, etc. Possibly also furniture, mattresses, etc. but check with local authorities.
C. "White goods." All appliances.
D. "Hazmat" Toxic stuff. Chemicals, paint, solvents, etc. Check with local authorities.

3. Depending on how much money is in FEMA's budget, and how many sub-contractors the main contractor can/will hire, it may be quite a while before your street is cleared.

Remember that the main contractor (they bid on the contract to FEMA) and ALL his subs are there to make a profit. This is their job. It's how they make a living.

Good luck.

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OK, here's how post disaster debris cleanup works. (Original Post) trof Oct 2017 OP
the subs do all the real work and the mains make all the money. the inverted pyramid nt msongs Oct 2017 #1
The mains have the bonding capacity and pocket book... Lochloosa Oct 2017 #3
Primary contractor trof Oct 2017 #5
Are these considered "Emergency" procurements? underpants Oct 2017 #2
You are wrong about the FEMA budget part... Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #4
I was keeping it simple. trof Oct 2017 #6
+1 Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #7

Lochloosa

(16,063 posts)
3. The mains have the bonding capacity and pocket book...
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 06:31 PM
Oct 2017

...big enough to pay the subs before getting paid.

Without them there would not be any work for the subs.

trof

(54,256 posts)
5. Primary contractor
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 06:44 PM
Oct 2017

They are responsible for hiring all the subs an keeping them honest. Make sure they're bringing in FULL truckloads and not getting paid for half.

They do payroll and all the recordkeeping necessary. With FEMA there is a MOUNTAIN of paperwork, verification, certification, etc., etc., etc.

A friend is pretty much heading up the Houston operation and he is very good at what he does. Houston is lucky to have him.

underpants

(182,769 posts)
2. Are these considered "Emergency" procurements?
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 06:28 PM
Oct 2017

I work in procurement. Emergencies basically get a green light while the approval process works itself out. I've only had to do one and it was because of upper management dragging ass on getting a food service contract finished.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
4. You are wrong about the FEMA budget part...
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 06:36 PM
Oct 2017

And it’s why many cities and counties are getting screwed. FEMA is a vehicle for reimbursement in this area. There are no questions about how much FEMA has. They will provide reimbursement. The issue is at the city and county level. That is who is being reimbursed. Our elected officials in Pinellas are taking a beating over their incompetence.

trof

(54,256 posts)
6. I was keeping it simple.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 06:46 PM
Oct 2017

Last edited Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Didn't want to get down in the weeds about city and county.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
7. +1
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 06:48 PM
Oct 2017

Thanks for the reply.

The only good thing in my county is the citizens are finally meeting their elected officials. More like looking for them to yell at them.

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