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HAB911

(8,865 posts)
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:36 PM Oct 2017

Clergy tax break unconstitutional - That's 3 FFRF victories in 8 days!

A federal judge for a second time has ruled in favor of the historic challenge by the Freedom From Religion Foundation of a housing allowance in the tax code that uniquely privileges clergy.

At issue is the constitutionality of 26 U.S.C. § 107(2), a provision in the tax code that excludes from gross income a housing allowance paid to a "minister of the gospel."

Rep. Peter Mack, sponsor of the 1954 law challenged by FFRF, argued that ministers should be rewarded with a clergy allowance for "carrying on such a courageous fight against this [a godless and anti-religious world movement]." The clergy allowance is not a tax deduction but an exemption—allowing housing allowances paid as part of clergy salary to be subtracted from taxable income.

In 2013, U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb ruled in FFRF's favor in its original challenge. Crabb's finding sent "shockwaves through the religious community," according to the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability, which bitterly fought the ruling, along with just about every religious denomination in the country.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/30540-ffrf-wins-major-housing-allowance-challenge-again

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Clergy tax break unconstitutional - That's 3 FFRF victories in 8 days! (Original Post) HAB911 Oct 2017 OP
Talk about religious double-speak. EarnestPutz Oct 2017 #1
Can of worms Freddie Oct 2017 #2
I disagree RandySF Oct 2017 #3
You've misunderstood the OP Jim Lane Oct 2017 #8
why should they get special rules when they don't think anyone else Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #4
Supremacists will be supremacists HAB911 Oct 2017 #6
Two hundred and twenty some years Progressive dog Oct 2017 #5
So this is good news, right? mahina Oct 2017 #7

EarnestPutz

(2,115 posts)
1. Talk about religious double-speak.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 02:02 PM
Oct 2017

The "Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability" seems
to want the opposite of accountability.

Freddie

(9,255 posts)
2. Can of worms
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 02:09 PM
Oct 2017

In the past most churches had a parsonage where the pastor and his/her family lived free of charge. Today many pastors would rather buy a house and they often get a housing allowance instead of parsonage housing. This is not taxed because the use of the parsonage was not taxed. I’m treasurer of my church and we have a parsonage but some years ago the pastor and his wife wanted to buy a house nearby so they would have a dwelling when he retired. We pay him $300/month housing allowance and lease the parsonage to a local non-profit that uses it for emergency housing for families in need. We make no $$ from this; the non-profit collects the rent, screens and supervises tenants and pays all upkeep and utilities from the rent. We are giving back to the community in this way instead of using the parsonage as a money-making rental.

RandySF

(58,387 posts)
3. I disagree
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 02:22 PM
Oct 2017

Personages are typically owned by churches, which I don’t believe are subject to property taxes.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
8. You've misunderstood the OP
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 02:07 AM
Oct 2017

The decision is about an exemption from personal income taxes paid by members of the clergy.

As to property taxes, if a jurisdiction exempts from property taxes all nonprofits, religious and secular, then there's no discrimination and that law should be upheld as constitutional.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
4. why should they get special rules when they don't think anyone else
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 02:27 PM
Oct 2017

should get special rules??

they get bent out of shape when it comes to gays and lesbians wanting to marry

Progressive dog

(6,898 posts)
5. Two hundred and twenty some years
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 03:06 PM
Oct 2017

after the 1st amendment was added to the Constitution and tax subsidies for religion still have to be fought against in court. Good for FFRF.

mahina

(17,592 posts)
7. So this is good news, right?
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 03:38 PM
Oct 2017

Jesus, this reads like it was translated from Norwegian.
"A federal judge for a second time has ruled in favor of the historic challenge by the Freedom From Religion Foundation of a housing allowance in the tax code that uniquely privileges clergy....
At issue is the constitutionality of 26 U.S.C. § 107(2), a provision in the tax code that excludes from gross income a housing allowance paid to a "minister of the gospel."

Anyway, good!

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