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sunonmars

(8,657 posts)
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:51 AM Oct 2017

Gorka: "The left has no idea how much more damage we can do to them as private citizens."

This is basically threatening anybody who disagrees, pure nazi words and tactics.....utterly disgraceful. We know what you meant Gorka......Dems better buckle up and get a backbone because this shit is only beginning and we are going to need to be ready.




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Gorka: "The left has no idea how much more damage we can do to them as private citizens." (Original Post) sunonmars Oct 2017 OP
And we can do damage to the Nazis as private citizens as well. ck4829 Oct 2017 #1
i remember how shocked folks were that nixon had an enemy list. dembotoz Oct 2017 #2
He should get a visit from the FBI.What does he mean, going after private citizens and doing what? sunonmars Oct 2017 #3
Yes he should SHRED Oct 2017 #22
Absolutely, but they don't care. Alice11111 Oct 2017 #63
republican fascist EVIL Achilleaze Oct 2017 #4
This fucker isnt even American, he needs booting out for treason. sunonmars Oct 2017 #6
He needs to be deported to Russia. dalton99a Oct 2017 #10
he needs to be put bdtrppr6 Oct 2017 #14
!!! Alice11111 Oct 2017 #64
You know...Bannon, Gorka, Miller...fuck all these fuckers with a rusty meat hook LuckyCharms Oct 2017 #5
Eminem agrees Capperdan Oct 2017 #58
Advocating "damage" at a Christian event? KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #7
Trump and his ilk are CINO's, Christians in name only. These twits are being used and cant even see sunonmars Oct 2017 #8
That stuff is for hippie liberul commie pinkos The Genealogist Oct 2017 #50
Guess I missed that one.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #59
Fucking Nazi! Docreed2003 Oct 2017 #9
He is pretty much, literally, a Nazi. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #35
OH I know! But thanks smirkymonkey for the expanded backstory Docreed2003 Oct 2017 #38
What is that prig going to do ? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #11
Neah neah-neah neah neah booga booga booga DinahMoeHum Oct 2017 #12
Get your fat fuzzy face in my way, you nazi piece of shit, snort Oct 2017 #13
Send that fascist immigrant back where he came from IronLionZion Oct 2017 #15
A moderate Republican Moral Compass Oct 2017 #16
100pc! Alice11111 Oct 2017 #65
Buckle up and get a backbone? Shit, what they should do is all show up and vote. NBachers Oct 2017 #17
Yes. Sad to say that voting seems to require a backbone. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #20
When do we start going on offense? Tatiana Oct 2017 #18
Heck, knives would be an improvement. We keep bringing swimming pool noodles tblue37 Oct 2017 #31
Oh, yes, fuck we do. Baitball Blogger Oct 2017 #19
He MEANS violence and death (no health-care, e.g.), but he'll CLAIM he means prayer in schools, no WinkyDink Oct 2017 #21
This liberal angrychair Oct 2017 #23
Racial/Ethnic supremacy runs through the far right Dawson Leery Oct 2017 #24
Already Bear Creek Oct 2017 #25
"While a registered republican walks up votes without question." Duppers Oct 2017 #48
I live in one of the redest parts of NC... paleotn Oct 2017 #54
And I say SoCalNative Oct 2017 #26
As a private citizen SonofDonald Oct 2017 #27
Hey Gorka DonCoquixote Oct 2017 #28
Fascists Oden Oct 2017 #29
Nothing says "Make America Great Again" like hurting private citizens n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #30
Oh, I think the left knows exactly how much damage they can do.. kentuck Oct 2017 #32
Go fuck yourself up your fat fucking ass, Gorka!!!! Initech Oct 2017 #33
Hope Gorda is on Mr. Mueller''s list of Russian suspects. gohuskies Oct 2017 #34
He's a natural fit for the Putin machine, if not originally an agent in place. Ford_Prefect Oct 2017 #37
A Hungarian threatening Americans on American soil. Crunchy Frog Oct 2017 #36
That's so very Nixonian of him... or maybe he's emulating Kruschev. nt procon Oct 2017 #39
who the fuck are these creatures barbtries Oct 2017 #40
Eat me, nazi clown C_U_L8R Oct 2017 #41
Then why were you kicked out of the WH? janterry Oct 2017 #42
Kicking Nazi ass is a great American tradition. N/t lutherj Oct 2017 #43
Bring it, Gorka! If Those Are Your "Values," MineralMan Oct 2017 #44
Domestic Terrorism aeromanKC Oct 2017 #45
This Phony PhD and Goose Stepping Nazi .. DoctorJoJo Oct 2017 #46
Well said! Than you. Duppers Oct 2017 #49
He's admitting that this was a right wing malaise Oct 2017 #47
Trumps friends are as unhinged as he is. riversedge Oct 2017 #51
But we need to reach out and understand these people maxrandb Oct 2017 #52
Bring it Gorka Botany Oct 2017 #53
Actually we have a pretty shrewd idea. Turbineguy Oct 2017 #55
He needs to be ignored HopeAgain Oct 2017 #56
Yes, they CAN do MORE damage ... LenaBaby61 Oct 2017 #57
Bring it on you bearded phony superpatriotman Oct 2017 #60
That coming from a Nazi coward. A Nazi at a Nazi "summit" rockfordfile Oct 2017 #61
TERRORISTS CousinIT Oct 2017 #62
*Conservative* is the Magic word. crosinski Oct 2017 #66
bring it on, nazifuck spanone Oct 2017 #67
Does he reialize he might get himself killed kacekwl Oct 2017 #68

ck4829

(37,868 posts)
1. And we can do damage to the Nazis as private citizens as well.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:54 AM
Oct 2017

And we don't have to envision ourselves as the next Timothy McVeigh, Jim Adkisson, Robert Lewis Dear, or Jason Dalton in order to do so.

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
2. i remember how shocked folks were that nixon had an enemy list.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:57 AM
Oct 2017

now we just assume they have one or several

sunonmars

(8,657 posts)
3. He should get a visit from the FBI.What does he mean, going after private citizens and doing what?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:57 AM
Oct 2017

This is very threatening words. He is advocating targeting private citizens.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
4. republican fascist EVIL
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:01 PM
Oct 2017

making war on Americans. Evil russian-style shit has come to America via TreasonWeasel republican chickenhawks. Tragic.

LuckyCharms

(22,683 posts)
5. You know...Bannon, Gorka, Miller...fuck all these fuckers with a rusty meat hook
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:02 PM
Oct 2017

Scumbags have come out of the woodwork.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,792 posts)
7. Advocating "damage" at a Christian event?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:12 PM
Oct 2017

What happened to values such as "love thy fellow man" and the notion of brotherhood?

sunonmars

(8,657 posts)
8. Trump and his ilk are CINO's, Christians in name only. These twits are being used and cant even see
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:13 PM
Oct 2017

what kind of cesspit they have in front of them.

The Genealogist

(4,739 posts)
50. That stuff is for hippie liberul commie pinkos
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:36 PM
Oct 2017

Jesus/God is a conservative repuke now. Didn't you get the memo?

in case needed

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,792 posts)
59. Guess I missed that one....
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:37 PM
Oct 2017

while I was wondering in the wilderness!

Maybe that's why they have a Supply-side Jesus nowadays. Have no idea what happened to the old one.

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
9. Fucking Nazi!
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:14 PM
Oct 2017

How much more of this shit are we going to allow to be normalized?? Do your fucking jobs and shame these sick bastards please media!! This is not only hate speech it’s inciting violence!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
35. He is pretty much, literally, a Nazi.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:23 PM
Oct 2017

"The Historical Order of Vitéz

The Order of Vitéz was a Hungarian order of merit founded in 1920 to reward heroic soldiers. It entitled the bearer to the title vitéz, as well as a grant of land. The title was inheritable, passing from father to son. Like all such orders in Hungary, it was disbanded at the end of World War II.

The U.S. State Department lists this order among organizations having been "under the direction of the Nazi government of Germany" during World War II.

Since then a number of private associations have worked to restore the order. The most notable of these is the Historical Order of Vitéz. This Order granted Gorka's father, Paul Gorka, their title in 1979 in recognition of his resistance to the post-war Soviet occupation of Hungary.

Paul Gorka's memoir Budapest elárulva ("Budapest betrayed&quot identifies him on its cover as "v. Gorka Pál", where the "v" is an abbreviation for the title vitéz. Sebastian Gorka has adopted the title in this way in a number of his publications, notably his PhD thesis and his writings for the Gatestone Institute. He also used the title in his June 2011 testimony before the House Armed Services Committee.

In 2017 Gorka appeared on Fox News on the evening of the U.S. presidential inauguration wearing a badge, tunic, and ring of the Order of Vitéz. This has given rise to claims that Gorka himself is a Nazi sympathizer.

New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman wrote in April 2017 that Gorka "has been accused of having links to far-right groups in Europe." Guardian newspaper staff have accused Gorka of supporting the genocide carried out by Nazi Germany due to his father's membership in the Hungarian Historical Order of Vitéz.

His father, Paul Gorka, was never a member of the original order and received a "Vitéz" (literally: "valiant&quot medal from Hungarian exiles "for his resistance to dictatorship" in 1979. Gorka himself stated that he wears this medal in remembrance of his father, who was awarded the decoration for his efforts to create an anti-communist, pro-democracy organization at the university he attended in Hungary.[79] Robert Kerepeszki, Hungarian expert of the Order of Vitéz, has confirmed that there were ruptures in the organization of the Order of Vitéz on the question of Nazism during the war, many of them died fighting against Hungarian Nazis, and Gorka's medal had nothing to do with the war period, but was awarded "for his resistance to dictatorship." The tunic that Gorka wore was just a traditional Hungarian jacket, known as a bocskai.

People who have worked with Gorka have said that he is not anti-Semitic. In February 2017 Congressman and Israel Allies Caucus Co-Chair Trent Franks called Gorka "the staunchest friend of Israel and the Jewish people." The Forward's Nathan Guttman responded to Franks' remarks with a statement that co-chair Franks "did not offer any evidence to refute the reports on Gorka’s ties with the Hungarian groups" the Hungarian National Committee and the New Democratic Coalition—as well as former members of Jobbik.

Michael Rubin of the American Enterprise Institute has said Gorka "is about as anti-Semitic as [Israel Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu. That is, not at all." Tibor Navracsics, an EU commissioner, member of the Hungarian Fidesz political party and former colleague of Gorka, also defended Gorka, stating that Gorka "has spent his life battling fascists and anti-Semites of all sorts"

Writing in the Jerusalem Post, Bruce Abramson and Jeff Ballabon argue that the Forward's articles are partisan attacks with no merit. Sarah N. Stern, of the Endowment for Middle East Truth has called Gorka "a true friend to Israel and the Jewish people," adding, "It is folly to 'cry wolf' [about anti-Semitism] at a time like this, when there are already too many wolves in the fold." Peter Beinart, writing in the Forward, says the evidence does not support the magazine's charges of antisemitism.

On March 16, 2017, leaders of one of two successor organisations of the Vitézi Rend stated that Gorka was an official member of the Historical Vitézi Rend faction, to which he is said to have taken a lifelong oath of loyalty. Gorka denied the allegations. The Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect, the National Jewish Democratic Council, and the Interfaith Alliance have called for Gorka's resignation over his ties to Hungarian far-right groups. The Anti-Defamation League has asked Gorka to disavow the Hungarian National Committee and the New Democratic Coalition.

Democratic Senators Ben Cardin, Dick Durbin and Richard Blumenthal sent a letter to the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security requesting that the DHS look into whether Gorka "illegally procured his citizenship" by omitting membership in Historical Vitézi Rend, which could have been grounds for keeping him out of the country.

March 17, 2017 Gorka issued a statement in which he denied that he is a sworn member of Hungarian Groups with Nazi past.

Support for the Hungarian Guard

Statements of support for Gorka, which have challenged the description of him as an anti-semite all predated a 2017 story that connected him with another extreme far-right anti-Semitic group. In a 2007 video, Gorka declared his support for the Magyar Gárda (Hungarian Guard), a paramilitary group described by various sources as neo-fascist and anti-Semitic. Gorka said that "If we look at the Swiss or Israeli example, when it is about a country, that is small and doesn't have a massive military, then a system can be based on a territorial defense ... In America, the state supports them, giving old arms ... After the disturbances of Hungary, last Year, a need has risen, ... " to supplement the official military "because the country’s military is sick, and totally reflects the state of Hungarian society... This country cannot defend itself.” He also added, that “We support the establishment of the Hungarian Guard despite the personalities involved.” The Guard was formally banned in Hungary two years after Gorka left the country, in 2009, which decision was upheld by the European Court of Human Rights, due to its racist activities."

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
38. OH I know! But thanks smirkymonkey for the expanded backstory
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:42 PM
Oct 2017

Tons of new information there

snort

(2,334 posts)
13. Get your fat fuzzy face in my way, you nazi piece of shit,
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:28 PM
Oct 2017

and I'll introduce it to my shillelagh.

IronLionZion

(51,350 posts)
15. Send that fascist immigrant back where he came from
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:31 PM
Oct 2017

If the UK doesn't want him back, Hungary will take him.

Moral Compass

(2,400 posts)
16. A moderate Republican
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:32 PM
Oct 2017

I’ve never agreed with Republicans. I always felt that they were racist authoritarians.

But I was never really personally worried. I’m white, college educated, and upper middle class.

But now there is a fascist, evangelical wing of the party. Unashamedly racist, theocratic, hostile to human rights. These people are as close to evil as you’ll see in politics.

Most importantly they’re cheaters. If they can’t win honest they’ll cheat. That’s just one of the many issues and also why they keep winning.

These people are a nightmare.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
18. When do we start going on offense?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:34 PM
Oct 2017

We keep bringing knives to a gunfight.

Where are the patriotic hackers? Where are our allies in Silicon Valley?

We have to start doing some recruiting. The horrible thing about being shut completely out of power is that we don't have a leader who can marshal the resources and tactical skills necessary for this 21st century war.

Maybe, just maybe, Hillary Clinton is the woman for the job. She certainly seems to have the strength, stamina, and intelligence to lead the fight.

tblue37

(68,444 posts)
31. Heck, knives would be an improvement. We keep bringing swimming pool noodles
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:17 PM
Oct 2017

to the gunfight!

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
21. He MEANS violence and death (no health-care, e.g.), but he'll CLAIM he means prayer in schools, no
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:45 PM
Oct 2017

abortion rights, more "employer religious freedom," etc.

Dawson Leery

(19,570 posts)
24. Racial/Ethnic supremacy runs through the far right
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:52 PM
Oct 2017

and certainly the Republican Party.

These types of threats are going to get worse.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
25. Already
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:04 PM
Oct 2017

Deny job promotions, ruin credit scores, charge higher interest, targeted by police, assigned jury duty. At voting location have to prove ID while a registered republican walks up votes without question.

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
48. "While a registered republican walks up votes without question."
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:32 PM
Oct 2017

Are you F'n serious??!

May I assume you're a minority? In what red part of the country?

paleotn

(22,318 posts)
54. I live in one of the redest parts of NC...
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:43 PM
Oct 2017

and have absolutely no problem voting. And yes, the folks at my polling place see plainly that I'm a registered Democrat.

They can attempt such, but it's primarily empty words and fascist dreams. BUT, we still must remain vigilant.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
27. As a private citizen
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:09 PM
Oct 2017

Nazi boy has no idea how much damage I could do to him in five minutes in a locked room.

I'm pretty well fucked up disability wise, but it won't make a difference.

That I can tell you.

DonCoquixote

(13,968 posts)
28. Hey Gorka
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:10 PM
Oct 2017

For someone of Hungarian descent, whose country was formed when the Serbians (aka Russian "separatists" ) shot Franz Ferdinand, you should be very aware that right wing politics has an odd way of turning on it's champions. May you get sent back to Hungary, and may the left wingers in Hungary remind you of this fact.

Oden

(26 posts)
29. Fascists
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:12 PM
Oct 2017

These guys are all bluster if you corner them they cry and run away. They are bullies and you have to stand up to them.

kentuck

(115,441 posts)
32. Oh, I think the left knows exactly how much damage they can do..
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:20 PM
Oct 2017

It's the right that is so confused about them.

gohuskies

(1,229 posts)
34. Hope Gorda is on Mr. Mueller''s list of Russian suspects.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:22 PM
Oct 2017

Would be high on the list of colluders.

barbtries

(31,317 posts)
40. who the fuck are these creatures
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:51 PM
Oct 2017

that their stated goals is to do harm to others? there is no good in them.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
42. Then why were you kicked out of the WH?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:54 PM
Oct 2017

I mean, you should have had the foresight to want to go back into the private sector.

Does Gorka really think we're that stupid??

MineralMan

(151,359 posts)
44. Bring it, Gorka! If Those Are Your "Values,"
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:59 PM
Oct 2017

you'll find that we will have a response to your empty threats, you little prig. And that beard and mustache? Don't ask me what it resembles...

 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
46. This Phony PhD and Goose Stepping Nazi ..
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:19 PM
Oct 2017

... has to be the very bottom of the scum that Trump festered on society!

Turbineguy

(40,105 posts)
55. Actually we have a pretty shrewd idea.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:47 PM
Oct 2017

Does he have any idea what a bunch of over-armed knuckle-dragging wingnuts will do to them when they finally figure out how much they've been fucked?

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
56. He needs to be ignored
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:47 PM
Oct 2017

I think MSM is making a mistake by paying any attention to these losers. By just repeatedly reporting on them, they paradoxically gain credibility. MSM, not Breitbart made Trump a viable candidate.

Treat them as irrelevant and they stay irrelevant.

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
57. Yes, they CAN do MORE damage ...
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:09 PM
Oct 2017

To us as private citizens IF OUR VOTES DON'T COUNT, or our votes are gerrymandered/voter-purged completely off of voting rolls along with whatever ruskie help/interference comes with that, and I see NOTHING coming from this tRumputin White House making me feel ANY better about the prospects of Dems being able to vote thuglicans OUT of office. The courts are done for a generation and will lean heavily right with one more mentally-deteriorating tRumputin appointment and we KNOW that person will probably be a nazi (Whose to stop them?), and don't look now, but if that gerrymandering case is overturned by this right-leaning Supreme Court in head of the 2018/2020 elections (Gorsuch), we Dems can kiss our voting rights/protections good-bye, because thuglicans will make sure that this country is run by one party: The nazi rethuglican party. Ryan and McConnell have no morals or scruples, plus they're scared to death of tRumputin and of that tiny nazi base of tRumputin's.

We're screwed even if Mueller has a strong case against fatso which I believe he'll have (Treason, RICO, obstruction of justice) and suggests that he's impeached, is this racist, evil congress going to impeach him? NOPE. They don't CARE about this country nor about it's citizens--just about the Mercers, Koch's, and those 1% 'er families who DON'T want him impeached.

Dems can go straight to HELL as far as they're concerned, even though this man is INSANE and although he was installed into the White House office in the first place with the help of a foreign government (ruSSia), and the GOP helped that along with gerrymandering and voter-suppression (voter-purging, voter-crosschecking, voter id'ing).

We are SO screwed.

CousinIT

(12,576 posts)
62. TERRORISTS
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:15 PM
Oct 2017

People who endeavor to torture or kill others who don't share their religious beliefs.

crosinski

(704 posts)
66. *Conservative* is the Magic word.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 06:00 PM
Oct 2017

Putin's Russia is conservative. Just mention that word and the republican party falls on it's knees and promises things I can't even write about here! That's the reason for the entire vote sabotaging love-fest, along with lots and lots oil, money, and power, between our reptilian republican overlords and their Russian masters. Well, that's the big picture anyway. Lots of little twiddly-bits I'm running roughshod over.

spanone

(141,740 posts)
67. bring it on, nazifuck
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 06:13 PM
Oct 2017

the only humans dumber than him are those who paid him to come talk to them.

kacekwl

(9,179 posts)
68. Does he reialize he might get himself killed
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 06:28 PM
Oct 2017

with that kind of talk. Careful what you wish for Gorka when people are threatened they tend to strike back.

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