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Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:40 PM

Artist who placed urinating dog next to Fearless Girl statue killed by N.Y. train

The artist who placed a urinating dog statute next to the “Fearless Girl” statue on Wall Street was killed by a train Thursday, New York Daily News reports.

Alexander Gardega, 48, was a Manhattan-based painter. He described himself in his Instagram bio as “a professional scribbler, press junkie and politically incorrect to my very artistic core.”

Shortly after placing his urinating dog statue, Gardega told the New York Post that “Fearless Girl was corporate nonsense” and a publicity stunt.

“Fearless Girl” was placed opposite the “Charging Bull” statue.

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http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article178906381.html

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Reply Artist who placed urinating dog next to Fearless Girl statue killed by N.Y. train (Original post)
Siwsan Oct 2017 OP
shenmue Oct 2017 #1
PoliticAverse Oct 2017 #2
tonedevil Oct 2017 #7
jberryhill Oct 2017 #10
Adrahil Oct 2017 #14
unblock Oct 2017 #17
Adrahil Oct 2017 #19
petronius Oct 2017 #20
unblock Oct 2017 #21
WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #3
Mr. Ected Oct 2017 #4
BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #8
MLAA Oct 2017 #27
byronius Oct 2017 #5
brush Oct 2017 #11
PoliticAverse Oct 2017 #12
brush Oct 2017 #13
Loki Liesmith Oct 2017 #16
tonedevil Oct 2017 #23
brush Oct 2017 #29
tonedevil Oct 2017 #34
brush Oct 2017 #35
tonedevil Oct 2017 #36
brush Oct 2017 #40
stevenleser Oct 2017 #43
TeamPooka Oct 2017 #30
tonedevil Oct 2017 #6
Loki Liesmith Oct 2017 #15
tonedevil Oct 2017 #22
TeamPooka Oct 2017 #31
tonedevil Oct 2017 #33
TeamPooka Oct 2017 #38
tonedevil Oct 2017 #39
stevenleser Oct 2017 #44
smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #9
blogslut Oct 2017 #18
DanTex Oct 2017 #26
Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #28
question everything Oct 2017 #24
Doreen Oct 2017 #25
JHB Oct 2017 #32
Judi Lynn Oct 2017 #37
stevenleser Oct 2017 #42
ileus Oct 2017 #41

Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:45 PM

1. Wow

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:45 PM

2. For those that missed it earlier: the firm behind the "Fearless Girl" statue was fined...

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:59 PM

7. Somehow...

 

there is always a story in the story. Fearless Girl was/is a great symbol, but now we see her "parents" don't understand the message of their art work.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #7)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:23 PM

10. It was an exercise in pinkwashing

 

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #10)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:56 PM

14. Perhaps...

 

But how many knew who put it there?

Most people saw a defiant girl facing down a vicious system. That's not a bad thing.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:00 PM

17. You probably didn't mean viscous ;)

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Response to unblock (Reply #17)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:06 PM

19. You are correct! Lol!

 

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Response to unblock (Reply #17)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:06 PM

20. Social systems are often resistant to change...

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Response to petronius (Reply #20)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:11 PM

21. Ah, guess I was just being thick

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:47 PM

3. Well, it WAS a corporate stunt. But the world has a way of turning in interesting ways sometimes.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:50 PM

4. Hoping for similar instant karma for Trump and every one of his disciples

The world would be a MUCH better place to live in.

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Response to Mr. Ected (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:59 PM

8. You beat me to it...I was thinking the same thing.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:19 PM

27. Me too!

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:50 PM

5. Yeah, some 'artists' have nothing wise to say.

'Killed by a train' --

'Publicity stunt' --

I feel like I know this guy. I had a friend once with a similar bent. Damaging someone else's expression for personal elevation -- one can find it all over the human behavioral spectrum. Corporate publicity stunt or not, Fearless Girl meant something, still means something. It said something.



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Response to byronius (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:43 PM

11. "Damaging someone else's expression for personal elevation".

You can say the same thing about the "Fearless Girl" corporate stunt, right?

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Response to brush (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:47 PM

12. The artist who made the bull statue isn't too pleased with the fearless girl addition. n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:53 PM

13. Exactly my point.

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Response to brush (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:58 PM

16. Yep.

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Response to brush (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:20 PM

23. You can say the same thing...

 

about the Charging Bull, at least at its origin.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #23)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:35 PM

29. How so? There wasn't another piece of art there that the bull intruded upon and thereby...

infringed upon another artist's concept.

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Response to brush (Reply #29)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:52 PM

34. They snuck it in...

 

In the middle of the night. I guess you want to give them the upperhand for stealing in first. I don't see any difference.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #34)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 12:02 AM

35. Wall Steet accepted it as a symbol. The Fearless Girl artist could've done the same thing...

somewhere else without intruding onto another artist's concept, but being bought and paid for by a corporation the sculptor threw respect for another artist's work to the wind.

Professional courtesy.

Guess you have to be an artist to get that — or not.

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Response to brush (Reply #35)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 12:28 AM

36. Fearless girl...

 

is facing the fucking bull, a symbol of Wall Street, the one that is screwing us all to hell. That doesn't work anywhere else. Bull had no right to be there, but it worked so it won a spot. Fearless Girl is equally deserving for the way she represents we the little people against Wall Street.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #36)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 06:49 AM

40. Did all that about one artist respecting another's concept go over your head?

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Or are you with the bought-and-paid for corporate entity that Fearless Girl is?

It's a corporate symbol used in advertising for God's sake. It's not representing any "little people".

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Response to brush (Reply #40)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:42 AM

43. Moreover, bull was moved from its original spot. Its artist had to accept that.

 

Wall Street did not initially appreciate it, so it was moved.

I like the concept of little girl but the part about changing a previous artists work against his will is disturbing.

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Response to byronius (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:47 PM

30. Loving fearless girl is like loving the Pillsbury Doughboy. The firm uses her in their marketing now

The statue, which rode on the coattails of insulting another artist to garner initial attention, is just a corporate symbol.
Aunt Jemima, Mrs. Butterworth, Fearless Girl: All The same.


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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:55 PM

6. A fitting ...

 

end to political incorrectness. Perhaps the dog can be placed next to the artist's tombstone?

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #6)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:57 PM

15. "A fitting end"

He deserved to die for his rude art? Really?

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Response to Loki Liesmith (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:16 PM

22. Did I say he should be...

 

executed? I just found his use of the peeing dog to be an assertion of male dominance and calling himself politically incorrect quite boorish. With that in mind I'm not saddened to hear of his demise. By the way, I don't think there is any correlation between bad art and getting hit by a train.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #22)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:49 PM

31. your comment that this was a "fitting end" is reprehensible.

People should die for making art?
No love of the 1st Amendment here.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #31)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:47 PM

33. Do you actually know...

 

what the first amendment covers. Because at no point have I suggested the government censor this dumbass or any other. Question for you TeamPooka when did I say someone should die for making art? Produce the exact quote or just slink away.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #33)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 02:28 AM

38. Your comment was morally reprehensible.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #38)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 02:59 AM

39. OK..

 

I understand how you feel. I don't agree or care, but i do understand.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #38)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:45 AM

44. Yep, pretty horrible. nt

 

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:07 PM

9. Oh well.

 

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:05 PM

18. The man may have taken his own life.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/subway-hit-vic-urinating-dog-art-fearless-girl-statue-article-1.3561378

...Motorman James Muñoz, 46, said the train was about 100 feet away from the station when the emergency brake kicked in.

“So I just had to investigate and see what was the cause,” Muñoz said. “I have a flashlight, I was able to see it clearly."

Muñoz said he found Gardega between the seventh train car and the maintenance catwalk that runs along the tracks. He said Gardega was likely on the tracks when he was struck...

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Response to blogslut (Reply #18)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:33 PM

26. Yeah. Suicide and heavy drug use are the only explanations that come to mind

as to why someone would be there.

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Response to blogslut (Reply #18)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:25 PM

28. A guy who works for me was in the front seat when a woman jumped in front of his train in Chicago

He was fucked up for a week. His description was awful.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:22 PM

24. For those who believe in Karma.. (nt)

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Response to question everything (Reply #24)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:25 PM

25. It can be a beautiful thing.

Well yeah, depending which side you are on.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:53 PM

32. That was supposed to be a dog?

Condolences to his family, but the art world hasn't exactly lost much. Having checked out some of his other, less assholish works, I can say that I chip in to more talented people on Patreon.

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Response to JHB (Reply #32)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 02:16 AM

37. It looks more like a small pig.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #37)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:38 AM

42. It was intentionally done roughly from what I read that was part of his statement

 

My understanding was that he was pretty talented.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 07:05 AM

41. That's a dog?

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