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ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. Anti-biotics are no longer effective
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 07:14 PM
Oct 2017

Penicillin doesn't do much at all. Maybe piss off the other bacteria?

The Post-Antibiotic Era Is Here. Now What?:https://www.wired.com/story/the-post-antibiotic-era-is-here-now-what/

In 2013, then-director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Tom Frieden told reporters, “If we’re not careful, we will soon be in a post-antibiotic era.” Today, just four years later, the agency says we’ve arrived. “We say that because pan-resistant bacteria are now here” says Jean Patel, who leads the CDC's Antibiotic Strategy & Coordination Unit. “Folks are dying simply because there is no antibiotic available to treat their infection, infections that not too long ago were easily treatable.”

Aristus

(66,308 posts)
5. It's overstated just a bit.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 07:20 PM
Oct 2017

Penicillin is still very effective for treating such infections as strep throat. I rely on it in my clinical practice.

I see growing resistance in the microorganisms that frequently cause urinary tract infections, but trim-sulfa is still my go-to med for those.

The real concern is in infections such as C difficile, which is growing more and more resistant all the time, and therefor very difficult to treat.

(It was named C. difficile because it was very hard to isolate in the laboratory. But it's a very appropriate name considering how difficult it is to treat.

Ilsa

(61,691 posts)
7. Trim-sulfa "works" on me, but my immune system
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 07:33 PM
Oct 2017

doesn't like it much. After 24 hours, my palms itch and I start feeling restless. End up getting switched over to amoxicillin. Trouble is, I need this stuff so infrequently, I only recently got it documented in my record after moving.

applegrove

(118,577 posts)
6. If you use penicillin whenever it will work that frees up other antibiotics to fight
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 07:26 PM
Oct 2017

more serious infections. It is about war and not using up all your armies...keeping some antibiotics back so they will be useful when you have resistant bacteria. Why people allergic to penicillin should be tested as adults so that they can then have penicillin used on them again if they can tolerate it. That way newer antibiotics are rarely exposed to bacteria and bacteria do not develop resistance to them.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
8. The new NDM-1 strains cannot be tamed
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 08:13 PM
Oct 2017

We Will Miss Antibiotics When They’re Gone: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/opinion/how-to-avoid-a-post-antibiotic-world.html


On Friday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released a disturbing report about the death of an elderly woman in Washoe County, Nev. What killed her wasn’t heart disease, cancer or pneumonia. What killed her were bacteria that were resistant to every antibiotic doctors could throw at them.

Already, more than 23,000 people in the United States are estimated to die every year from resistant bacteria. That death toll will grow as microbes develop new mechanisms to defeat the drugs that, for decades, have kept infections at bay. We are on the cusp of what the World Health Organization calls a “post-antibiotic era.”


Here is where Dotard could have an impact (in a very negative way):

Aware of the problem, Congress has taken some initial steps to address it. In particular, the 2012 Generating Antibiotic Incentives Now Act grants to manufacturers an extended, exclusive period to sell newly approved antibiotics. By keeping generics off the market for longer, Congress hoped to sweeten the pot for manufacturers and encourage needed research.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
9. I am well aware that I sound like a doomsayer
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 08:18 PM
Oct 2017

Applegrove, you would be correct except that so many people abused antibiotics for so long that serious strains of bacteria developed quickly. Antibiotics are not something to be taken when you feel a little down, but that's what a lot of people did. And they did not take them on a doctor prescribed schedule; they took one or two once in a while. So, now we have this emerging problem. Congress is supposed to be looking into this, but do you think they really are?

applegrove

(118,577 posts)
10. Oh yes. People should only take anti biotics when they really need them and follow the whole
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 08:28 PM
Oct 2017

course of the prescription so the bacteria is destroyed and not just tempered (metaphor) into becoming resistant. It is a war. And we need to be smart about it.

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